Removing green-outs

[mcdonaat]

Would anyone on here remove sign cover-ups if they had the equipment? Especially where the new shields were placed over the old ones...

If so, which signs and why?

[froggie]

Wouldn't that A) defeat the purpose of the green out, or B) be dangerous, or C) confuse the driving public after the green out is removed?

[Pete from Boston]

Wouldn't that A) defeat the purpose of the green out, or B) be dangerous, or C) confuse the driving public after the green out is removed?

I think he means, "Where are you curious what's under there?"

[froggie]

I figured as much, but the way he asked it left too much room for interpretation.

[1995hoo]

Wouldn't that A) defeat the purpose of the green out, or B) be dangerous, or C) confuse the driving public after the green out is removed?

I think he means, "Where are you curious what's under there?"

As to that question, I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

[Brandon]

Wouldn't that A) defeat the purpose of the green out, or B) be dangerous, or C) confuse the driving public after the green out is removed?

Depends.  Removing the greenout on the signs for I-355 on I-55 would reveal the control city of "Suburbs".

[jakeroot]

I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

From the looks of it, you won't have to wait too long before that thing gives way. I can't believe it's possible to leave wood out in the rain that long without it completely disintegrating.

There are several places in the South Seattle area that were covered after a large renumbering scheme in the 1970s, but most of the signs have been replaced, and of the ones that remain, I already know what the green-out covers.

I guess you could say, we weren't as ambitious as the east coast in their road-building (a la I-60).

[jeffandnicole]

I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

From the looks of it, you won't have to wait too long before that thing gives way. I can't believe it's possible to leave wood out in the rain that long without it completely disintegrating.

Depends on the wood.

Barns, covered bridges and wooden roller coasters are just a few examples of wooden stuctures that last for decades. 

I'm sure the wood DOT uses is a piece of scrap that was painted with whatever green paint was laying around though.

[1995hoo]

I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

From the looks of it, you won't have to wait too long before that thing gives way. I can't believe it's possible to leave wood out in the rain that long without it completely disintegrating.

....

Who knows. It's been there in more or less its current state for as long as I can remember.

[mcdonaat]

Wouldn't that A) defeat the purpose of the green out, or B) be dangerous, or C) confuse the driving public after the green out is removed?

I think he means, "Where are you curious what's under there?"

Actually, I meant, if you know of a sign that was partially covered for a dumb reason, or which is covering a historic highway, would you remove it, and where?

Personally, I would remove the shield on I-49's exit for LA 478 (letting drivers know that the Parish Rd in 5 Miles is actually a parish road), I would remove the green out over Zimmerman (a place with people living there, unlike US 51's exit for Ruddock, a place that hasn't existed for years), and I would remove every green out covering US highways in California.

[Alps]

How about a black-and-white out and a blue-out?

[Henry]

I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

From the looks of it, you won't have to wait too long before that thing gives way. I can't believe it's possible to leave wood out in the rain that long without it completely disintegrating.

....

Who knows. It's been there in more or less its current state for as long as I can remember.

Do you have a pic of that, or know anyone who does?

[1995hoo]

I'll cite the sign bridge on I-66 in DC near the Kennedy Center that's been mentioned in several threads recently. Rather than the standard greenout, they used pieces of wood painted green that are now very old and are deteriorating. I'd love to get a look under the left-most one, in particular. I suspect the sign refers to a road that was never built.

From the looks of it, you won't have to wait too long before that thing gives way. I can't believe it's possible to leave wood out in the rain that long without it completely disintegrating.

....

Who knows. It's been there in more or less its current state for as long as I can remember.

Do you have a pic of that, or know anyone who does?

Do you mean the sign bridge as it now exists or what's underneath the wooden panels?

If you mean the latter, no. I'd love to see a picture if one exists.

If you mean the former, there are plenty on this forum and on Google Street View, probably on AARoads as well, and I know Alps has one.

[agentsteel53]

yeah I'd love to unbury an old US-99, US-60, etc.

[DTComposer]

yeah I'd love to unbury an old US-99, US-60, etc.

Lots of those I could think of, but every time I drive under this one I want to expose the US-101 under the greenout:

[cjk374]

yeah I'd love to unbury an old US-99, US-60, etc.

Lots of those I could think of, but every time I drive under this one I want to expose the US-101 under the greenout:

Is US 101 still running concurrent here?

[Quillz]

yeah I'd love to unbury an old US-99, US-60, etc.

Lots of those I could think of, but every time I drive under this one I want to expose the US-101 under the greenout:

Is US 101 still running concurrent here?

No, US-101's southern terminus has been at the East LA Interchange since at least 1964. It's no longer concurrent with I-5 at all, and most of its concurrences with CA-1 aren't even signed.

[bing101]

California has too many greenouts.

[kkt]

California has too many greenouts.

It's a cheap state.

[TheStranger]

Is US 101 still running concurrent here?

No, US-101's southern terminus has been at the East LA Interchange since at least 1964. It's no longer concurrent with I-5 at all, and most of its concurrences with CA-1 aren't even signed.

An addendum: 101/5 were a signed concurrency to at least southern Orange County until at least 1968.  Not sure when signs for 101 were taken down south of there, though probably sooner than then.

[kendancy66]

I find the green outs interesting.  And when they fall off it is even more interesting.  As far as South Orange county, I am pretty sure all signs similar to the one in question are of the newer variety