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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 03:35:39 PMThat is the Eucalyptus forest near San Juan Bautista in cover image.   

An area where a surprising number of people whom I know have received speeding tickets, myself included (granted mine was 25 years ago).



Certain lots of cover to hide a patrol car with stuff like Rocks Road and random-access driveways.

Heh.  Saw someone pulled over there last week. :D

The corridor through Prunedale has always fascinated me.  It was once intended to be bypassed by way of a proper freeway alignment which would have been located just to the east.  The existing expressway pretty much has been blown out as much as it can be without actually being fully limited access.  If one looks close there are numerous places where the now blocked off left turn lanes are obvious.

I wonder why it never was built (I think the alignment still shows up on maps to this day?) because the traffic backups in that area can be horrendous on weekends.

There was just a lot of resistance to freeways being constructed in the Monterey area (which Prunedale more or is influenced by).  CA 68, CA 1 and CA 156 also had freeway adoptions which would have connected with the rest of the Freeways & Expressways system.  It is the largest metro area in the state without four lane outlet to the rest of the state. 

US-101 through this area is far better than it used to be with the elimination of left turns and the addition of those interchanges at Crazy Horse Road and over by the red barn.  Getting CA-156 up to 4-lanes doesn't seem like it would be a heavy lift, it's not that long of a 2-lane stretch, and a safety argument can certainly be made.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jdbx on April 22, 2025, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2025, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Voyager on April 21, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 18, 2025, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 18, 2025, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 03:35:39 PMThat is the Eucalyptus forest near San Juan Bautista in cover image.   

An area where a surprising number of people whom I know have received speeding tickets, myself included (granted mine was 25 years ago).



Certain lots of cover to hide a patrol car with stuff like Rocks Road and random-access driveways.

Heh.  Saw someone pulled over there last week. :D

The corridor through Prunedale has always fascinated me.  It was once intended to be bypassed by way of a proper freeway alignment which would have been located just to the east.  The existing expressway pretty much has been blown out as much as it can be without actually being fully limited access.  If one looks close there are numerous places where the now blocked off left turn lanes are obvious.

I wonder why it never was built (I think the alignment still shows up on maps to this day?) because the traffic backups in that area can be horrendous on weekends.

There was just a lot of resistance to freeways being constructed in the Monterey area (which Prunedale more or is influenced by).  CA 68, CA 1 and CA 156 also had freeway adoptions which would have connected with the rest of the Freeways & Expressways system.  It is the largest metro area in the state without four lane outlet to the rest of the state. 

US-101 through this area is far better than it used to be with the elimination of left turns and the addition of those interchanges at Crazy Horse Road and over by the red barn.  Getting CA-156 up to 4-lanes doesn't seem like it would be a heavy lift, it's not that long of a 2-lane stretch, and a safety argument can certainly be made.

I believe safety is currently the motivating factor driving the push to get 156 to four lanes between Castroville and Prunedale.  The four lane extension east of San Juan Bautista is coming along nicely.

Voyager

Quote from: jdbx on April 22, 2025, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2025, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Voyager on April 21, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 18, 2025, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 18, 2025, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 03:35:39 PMThat is the Eucalyptus forest near San Juan Bautista in cover image.   

An area where a surprising number of people whom I know have received speeding tickets, myself included (granted mine was 25 years ago).



Certain lots of cover to hide a patrol car with stuff like Rocks Road and random-access driveways.

Heh.  Saw someone pulled over there last week. :D

The corridor through Prunedale has always fascinated me.  It was once intended to be bypassed by way of a proper freeway alignment which would have been located just to the east.  The existing expressway pretty much has been blown out as much as it can be without actually being fully limited access.  If one looks close there are numerous places where the now blocked off left turn lanes are obvious.

I wonder why it never was built (I think the alignment still shows up on maps to this day?) because the traffic backups in that area can be horrendous on weekends.

There was just a lot of resistance to freeways being constructed in the Monterey area (which Prunedale more or is influenced by).  CA 68, CA 1 and CA 156 also had freeway adoptions which would have connected with the rest of the Freeways & Expressways system.  It is the largest metro area in the state without four lane outlet to the rest of the state. 

US-101 through this area is far better than it used to be with the elimination of left turns and the addition of those interchanges at Crazy Horse Road and over by the red barn.  Getting CA-156 up to 4-lanes doesn't seem like it would be a heavy lift, it's not that long of a 2-lane stretch, and a safety argument can certainly be made.

The western end of 156 is actually planned to be converted to a full freeway, finally giving Monterey full freeway access.

https://www.tamcmonterey.org/highway-156
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Voyager on April 22, 2025, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 22, 2025, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2025, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Voyager on April 21, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 18, 2025, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 18, 2025, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 03:35:39 PMThat is the Eucalyptus forest near San Juan Bautista in cover image.   

An area where a surprising number of people whom I know have received speeding tickets, myself included (granted mine was 25 years ago).



Certain lots of cover to hide a patrol car with stuff like Rocks Road and random-access driveways.

Heh.  Saw someone pulled over there last week. :D

The corridor through Prunedale has always fascinated me.  It was once intended to be bypassed by way of a proper freeway alignment which would have been located just to the east.  The existing expressway pretty much has been blown out as much as it can be without actually being fully limited access.  If one looks close there are numerous places where the now blocked off left turn lanes are obvious.

I wonder why it never was built (I think the alignment still shows up on maps to this day?) because the traffic backups in that area can be horrendous on weekends.

There was just a lot of resistance to freeways being constructed in the Monterey area (which Prunedale more or is influenced by).  CA 68, CA 1 and CA 156 also had freeway adoptions which would have connected with the rest of the Freeways & Expressways system.  It is the largest metro area in the state without four lane outlet to the rest of the state. 

US-101 through this area is far better than it used to be with the elimination of left turns and the addition of those interchanges at Crazy Horse Road and over by the red barn.  Getting CA-156 up to 4-lanes doesn't seem like it would be a heavy lift, it's not that long of a 2-lane stretch, and a safety argument can certainly be made.

The western end of 156 is actually planned to be converted to a full freeway, finally giving Monterey full freeway access.

https://www.tamcmonterey.org/highway-156

Segment 2 appears to be expressway.  I'm not sure how that segment would work with an access drive to a neighborhood.

Voyager

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2025, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: Voyager on April 22, 2025, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 22, 2025, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2025, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Voyager on April 21, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 18, 2025, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: jdbx on April 18, 2025, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 03:35:39 PMThat is the Eucalyptus forest near San Juan Bautista in cover image.   

An area where a surprising number of people whom I know have received speeding tickets, myself included (granted mine was 25 years ago).



Certain lots of cover to hide a patrol car with stuff like Rocks Road and random-access driveways.

Heh.  Saw someone pulled over there last week. :D

The corridor through Prunedale has always fascinated me.  It was once intended to be bypassed by way of a proper freeway alignment which would have been located just to the east.  The existing expressway pretty much has been blown out as much as it can be without actually being fully limited access.  If one looks close there are numerous places where the now blocked off left turn lanes are obvious.

I wonder why it never was built (I think the alignment still shows up on maps to this day?) because the traffic backups in that area can be horrendous on weekends.

There was just a lot of resistance to freeways being constructed in the Monterey area (which Prunedale more or is influenced by).  CA 68, CA 1 and CA 156 also had freeway adoptions which would have connected with the rest of the Freeways & Expressways system.  It is the largest metro area in the state without four lane outlet to the rest of the state. 

US-101 through this area is far better than it used to be with the elimination of left turns and the addition of those interchanges at Crazy Horse Road and over by the red barn.  Getting CA-156 up to 4-lanes doesn't seem like it would be a heavy lift, it's not that long of a 2-lane stretch, and a safety argument can certainly be made.

The western end of 156 is actually planned to be converted to a full freeway, finally giving Monterey full freeway access.

https://www.tamcmonterey.org/highway-156

Segment 2 appears to be expressway.  I'm not sure how that segment would work with an access drive to a neighborhood.

I looked through all the planning docs and it looks like its going to be a full freeway for at least some of the alternatives.

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE156.html
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stevashe

Quote from: Voyager on April 22, 2025, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2025, 05:29:21 PMSegment 2 appears to be expressway.  I'm not sure how that segment would work with an access drive to a neighborhood.

I looked through all the planning docs and it looks like its going to be a full freeway for at least some of the alternatives.

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE156.html

The TAMC page states that neighborhood access is provided by building the new lanes parallel to the existing highway, which itself will be converted to a frontage road.