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KeithE4Phx

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on January 01, 2026, 01:30:16 PMLots of good articles out today summarizing projects that have been completed over the last year and more soon to come: https://azdot.gov/news/northern-az-2026-highlights-include-i-17-wildlife-overpass-completion

Those are good, especially the elimination of the Beale Street Bottleneck in Kingman.  But when are they finally going to four-lane the remaining two-lane sections of US 93 between Wickenburg and I-40?  That death-trap gets worse and worse by the day.
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The Ghostbuster

One will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 02, 2026, 11:12:35 AMOne will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you.  Since there's no political will or funding to create I-11 in Arizona, even just from Hoover Dam to Wickenburg, I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime (I'm 70).
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splashflash

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 02, 2026, 11:12:35 AMOne will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you.  Since there's no political will or funding to create I-11 in Arizona, even just from Hoover Dam to Wickenburg, I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime (I'm 70).
There is a project right now; Cane Springs realignment and widening occuring.  This 4 mile stretch between Wikieup and I-40 costs $80M, significant when in comparison the Kingman US 93 / I-40 interchange costs $104M.

https://azdot.gov/projects/northwest-district-projects/us-93-cane-springs-improvement-project

US 93 Cane Springs Improvement project north of Wikieup is underway

The Arizona Department of Transportation advises motorists that construction is underway on the US 93 Cane Springs Improvement project located north of Wikieup.

Crews will be working during the next several weeks to clear the work zone in preparation of mobilizing construction equipment to the area. Most of the construction will take place off of US 93 and will have limited impact to motorists. The speed limit will be reduced to allow for heavy equipment to safely access the work zone.

Located approximately 13 miles north of Wikieup, the project will include the following elements:

- Widening a 4-mile segment of US 93 from a two-lane undivided roadway to a 4-lane divided highway between mileposts 106 and 110.
- Constructing two new bridges over Cane Springs Wash and removing the existing bridge (milepost 109).
- Improving and/or installing drainage and sediment-control facilities, including culverts, pipes and ditches.
Reconstructing the intersection turnout at Upper Trout Creek Road.
The project is expected to be completed in 2027.


Plutonic Panda

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on January 01, 2026, 01:30:16 PMLots of good articles out today summarizing projects that have been completed over the last year and more soon to come: https://azdot.gov/news/northern-az-2026-highlights-include-i-17-wildlife-overpass-completion

Those are good, especially the elimination of the Beale Street Bottleneck in Kingman.  But when are they finally going to four-lane the remaining two-lane sections of US 93 between Wickenburg and I-40?  That death-trap gets worse and worse by the day.
I make this drive a few times a year and maybe it's not during heavy traffic times, and I can't reiterate this enough I'm not defending the current road conditions. I would love to see I love built between Phoenix and Las Vegas, Vegas fully. But it seems to me that if people would drive safer and just be patient to pass other people during the four lane sections a lot of these deaths could be avoided.

splashflash

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Quote from: Plutonic Panda on January 02, 2026, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on January 01, 2026, 01:30:16 PMLots of good articles out today summarizing projects that have been completed over the last year and more soon to come: https://azdot.gov/news/northern-az-2026-highlights-include-i-17-wildlife-overpass-completion

Those are good, especially the elimination of the Beale Street Bottleneck in Kingman.  But when are they finally going to four-lane the remaining two-lane sections of US 93 between Wickenburg and I-40?  That death-trap gets worse and worse by the day.
I make this drive a few times a year and maybe it's not during heavy traffic times, and I can't reiterate this enough I'm not defending the current road conditions. I would love to see I love built between Phoenix and Las Vegas, Vegas fully. But it seems to me that if people would drive safer and just be patient to pass other people during the four lane sections a lot of these deaths could be avoided.

But windy sections need improvement regardless, so those are being done next.  At Cane Springs the road dips too.



Two lane segments south of SR71 to Wikenburg are being done last.


pderocco

Quote from: splashflash on January 02, 2026, 01:42:35 PMThere is a project right now; Cane Springs realignment and widening occuring.  This 4 mile stretch between Wikieup and I-40 costs $80M, significant when in comparison the Kingman US 93 / I-40 interchange costs $104M.

https://azdot.gov/projects/northwest-district-projects/us-93-cane-springs-improvement-project

US 93 Cane Springs Improvement project north of Wikieup is underway

The Arizona Department of Transportation advises motorists that construction is underway on the US 93 Cane Springs Improvement project located north of Wikieup.

Crews will be working during the next several weeks to clear the work zone in preparation of mobilizing construction equipment to the area. Most of the construction will take place off of US 93 and will have limited impact to motorists. The speed limit will be reduced to allow for heavy equipment to safely access the work zone.

Located approximately 13 miles north of Wikieup, the project will include the following elements:

- Widening a 4-mile segment of US 93 from a two-lane undivided roadway to a 4-lane divided highway between mileposts 106 and 110.
- Constructing two new bridges over Cane Springs Wash and removing the existing bridge (milepost 109).
- Improving and/or installing drainage and sediment-control facilities, including culverts, pipes and ditches.
Reconstructing the intersection turnout at Upper Trout Creek Road.
The project is expected to be completed in 2027.
And that's by far the easiest one. But it's better than nothing.

splashflash

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 02, 2026, 11:12:35 AMOne will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you.  Since there's no political will or funding to create I-11 in Arizona, even just from Hoover Dam to Wickenburg, I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime (I'm 70).


It is disconcerting that the twenty miles between Big Jim Wash, southern limit Mile 166 and SR 71 Interchange, southern limit Mile 185 isn't moving ahead.  Even more alarming is that it appears more passing lanes are scheduled within this segment in the near future.  "Another project scheduled to start in 2026 calls for adding passing lanes to US 93 between mileposts 171.5-173 and 175.5-177 in fiscal year 2026."

pderocco

Quote from: splashflash on January 03, 2026, 11:05:16 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 02, 2026, 11:12:35 AMOne will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you.  Since there's no political will or funding to create I-11 in Arizona, even just from Hoover Dam to Wickenburg, I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime (I'm 70).


It is disconcerting that the twenty miles between Big Jim Wash, southern limit Mile 166 and SR 71 Interchange, southern limit Mile 185 isn't moving ahead.  Even more alarming is that it appears more passing lanes are scheduled within this segment in the near future.  "Another project scheduled to start in 2026 calls for adding passing lanes to US 93 between mileposts 171.5-173 and 175.5-177 in fiscal year 2026."
When they do stuff like that, I wish they'd build a couple miles of new roadbed, separated by a median, that can be part of the future widened road, and connect it with a couple of shoeflies. That way, they won't have to rip it all up and throw it away in the future. They probably know which side of the existing road the new roadbed will be on.

Plutonic Panda

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 02, 2026, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 02, 2026, 11:12:35 AMOne will probably have to wait until the conversion to Interstate 11 occurs, before all of US 93 between Interstate 40 and Wickenburg becomes completely four lanes.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you.  Since there's no political will or funding to create I-11 in Arizona, even just from Hoover Dam to Wickenburg, I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime (I'm 70).
That one really angers me. And I'm not sure why I guess cause it just seems like such an easy project and it shouldn't cost all that much. I mean how many interchanges need to be built. The roadway is already nearing the end of its useful life. Yeah, you're gonna have to add shoulders and modernize it to interstate standards.

I don't know. I'm a little bit more optimistic on this one. I think Arizona is going to upgrade it and they're gonna have some big announcement about it. I'm just not sure when. The question is will they sign it as I-11? That might be what gets the ball rolling on anything south of I-40.


Pink Jazz

About the SES America RGB retrofits in the Skyline dynamic message signs, I noticed those retrofit kits that ADOT installed in the Skyline housings seem to be very dim in bright sunlight. I think it was a mistake for ADOT to rush to install these retrofit kits instead of trying to resolve the issue with Skyline. I understand that ADOT dropped Skyline due to their firmware not playing nice with ADOT's Cameleon software, but couldn't ADOT have tried to resolve the issue instead of rushing to the SES retrofit kits? 

I actually noticed in the Loop 202 SanTan Freeway widening, the remaining non-retrofitted Skyline signs were replaced by new high resolution Daktronics full color signs. The Daktronics RGB panels are so much brighter than the SES. I wonder if this might give a hint that ADOT might not be satisfied with the SES retrofit kits, thus opting to replace the remaining Skyline signs with brand new Daktronics signs instead of going with the SES retrofit kits.