What was the reason for cancelling the rest of the Ronald Reagan Freeway, CA 118

[Roadmapfan66]

What was the reason for cancelling the rest of the Ronald Reagan Freeway, CA 118 from Moorpark to Oxnard, CA as well as CA 23 north of CA 118 to CA 126 as freeway along with the CA 126 Santa Paula Freeway to Interstate 5 and CA 14 (Golden State Freeway, Antelope Valley Freeway)?

Scott C. Presnal
Morro Bay, CA

[NE2]

Reaganomics.

[Roadmapfan66]

No I think it is "NIMBY" working here.  Not In My Back Yard scenarios.  Atleast Caltrans should off kept it on their maps for a long time.   

Scott C. Presnal
Morro Bay, CA

[Bigmikelakers]

Probably due to the era of limits set up by Governor Jerry Brown in his first two terms in office. He cancelled most freeway construction in the state at the time. I don't see why the 118 can't be extended now. With the exception of Moorpark, theres very little development along the proposed route. The 126 should be extended from Santa Paula to Santa Clarita as well.

[Quillz]

Do traffic counts on either route really justify a freeway? The expressway section of CA-126, Telegraph Road, is rarely busy whenever I'm on it. It generally takes me no more than 20-25 minutes to go from Santa Paula to Fillmore. I could see a case for at least widening Los Angeles Avenue (CA-118), but again, it seems that traffic counts on the route aren't high enough for a freeway.

[bulkyorled]

Its 20% NIMBY 80% other. There's squat over by where the 118 ends but it would tear through Moorpark. At least bringing it to the 126 wouldn't even be that far, and other than Moorpark there's absolutely nothing in its way, and I was just over in that city a few days ago and im sure they could pick a spot to mow through that doesn't require ripping up too many houses.

I always thought it was odd they built the 23 instead of continuing the 118. The 118 makes a south curve and changes numbers basically....

[Interstate Trav]

Its 20% NIMBY 80% other. There's squat over by where the 118 ends but it would tear through Moorpark. At least bringing it to the 126 wouldn't even be that far, and other than Moorpark there's absolutely nothing in its way, and I was just over in that city a few days ago and im sure they could pick a spot to mow through that doesn't require ripping up too many houses.

I always thought it was odd they built the 23 instead of continuing the 118. The 118 makes a south curve and changes numbers basically....

I think maybe at the time, and I'm from Thousand Oaks originally, so I have driven the 23 to 118 a lot, that maybe the 23 was more important.  It was meant to connect Thousand Oaks With Simi Valley,  but orignally the 23 and 118 didn't meet freeway to freeway, it wasn't until the mid 90's that the bridge at New LA Ave was constructed.  23 used to just die onto New LA Ave. 


Edited to fix quoting. --roadfro

[bulkyorled]

That's true. I didn't mean the 23 is useless, in fact its clearly more important. I suppose I meant it makes me wonder why they didn't sign 23 as 118 and just end it at the 101

[JustDrive]

23 between 118 and 126 is easy.  Have you ever driven that stretch of road?  Building a freeway through that area would be very impractical.

As for the 118 west of Moorpark, there's a LOT of truck traffic there because they want to avoid the scales on the 101 near Newbury Park.  And with the reconstruction of the 101/Rice Avenue interchange in Oxnard (118 dumps you on Santa Clara/Rice currently), there's renewed talk for the widening of the 118 west of Moorpark.

[blawp]

The 118 has a weigh station outside of Moorpark. They aren't avoiding anything.

[kendancy66]

23 between 118 and 126 is easy.  Have you ever driven that stretch of road?  Building a freeway through that area would be very impractical.

The one time that I drove it, I was stuck behind a slow moving dump truck and was unable to pass.

[Quillz]

23 between 118 and 126 is easy.  Have you ever driven that stretch of road?  Building a freeway through that area would be very impractical.

The one time that I drove it, I was stuck behind a slow moving dump truck and was unable to pass.

That's common, there is a large rock quarry in the area, right off Grimes Cyn. Rd. (the local name for CA-23).

[Interstate Trav]

That's true. I didn't mean the 23 is useless, in fact its clearly more important. I suppose I meant it makes me wonder why they didn't sign 23 as 118 and just end it at the 101

I think mainly because CA 23 was originally planned to be a freeway all the way to Fillmore.  The 118 and 23 are completely seperate route.

But 118 does in some way act as an alternative to the 101 so I see what your saying.

[kendancy66]

23 between 118 and 126 is easy.  Have you ever driven that stretch of road?  Building a freeway through that area would be very impractical.

The one time that I drove it, I was stuck behind a slow moving dump truck and was unable to pass.

That's common, there is a large rock quarry in the area, right off Grimes Cyn. Rd. (the local name for CA-23).

Yes I remember seeing the quarry, and hoping that the truck was going there.  But instead he kept right on trucking all the way to 126.

[Desert Man]

Ventura county may be neighboring L.A. (the San Fernando valley falls into the city of L.A. jurisdiction), but less developed than Orange county when residents have halted extreme suburban sprawl in the 1980s and house tract development tends to be less prevalent in much of Ventura compared to Orange county. More freeways can lead to higher rates of what some locals call an eyesore formation of suburbia in small towns, but be in mind Oxnard and Ventura are of major city (pop: 100,000+) status, and so are the "bedroom" communities of Simi Valley and Thousand oaks on the L.A. county line.

[cpzilliacus]

Ventura county may be neighboring L.A. (the San Fernando valley falls into the city of L.A. jurisdiction), but less developed than Orange county when residents have halted extreme suburban sprawl in the 1980s and house tract development tends to be less prevalent in much of Ventura compared to Orange county. More freeways can lead to higher rates of what some locals call an eyesore formation of suburbia in small towns, but be in mind Oxnard and Ventura are of major city (pop: 100,000+) status, and so are the "bedroom" communities of Simi Valley and Thousand oaks on the L.A. county line.

But Orange County, unlike L.A. County, planned for and built a network of toll roads to provide some relief to the "free" freeway network.