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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #800 on: October 01, 2020, 03:35:10 AM »

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The bypasses donít really add much mileage.

Clayton - 1 mile added
- US-70 Business - 13 miles
- I-40 / US-70 - 14 miles

Selma - 0 miles added
- US-70 - 3 miles
- US-70 Bypass - 3 miles

Princeton - 0.1 miles added
- Old US-70 - 1.6 miles
- US-70 - 1.7 miles

Goldsboro - 1 mile added
- US-70 - 19 miles
- US-70 Bypass - 20 miles

La Grange - 0.1 mile removed
- Old US-70 - 4.5 miles
- US-70 - 4.4 miles

Dover to New Bern - 1 mile removed
- Old US-70 - 27 miles
- US-70 - 26 miles

In total, only about 1 mile is added which is moot on a 100+ mile route. The Kinston Bypass will not add any distance as most of it will upgrade the existing road, and the Havelock Bypass may add 1 or 2 miles.

I must have gotten that impression from looking at the semi loops on a map. It seems like it's adding miles.

Only in NC could you list 3 routes for every section to compare distances. Lots of ways to go anywhere.

People in Louisburg going to Atlantic Beach form 3 groups: taking NC39 to 70 which is dangerously lacking in proper shoulders ,etc., my favorite which is NC581 to 70 via Bailey and Spring Hope, and there's another route to the North I can't remember off hand. I'm not counting a 4th option which is just go through Raleigh to 70.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #801 on: October 01, 2020, 04:51:14 PM »

Where exactly will future Interstate 42 terminate in Morehead City? There are a number of places they could end the roadway. Also, once 42 is completed in full, is it possible that US 70 could be truncated to Interstate 40 in Auburn, with existing 70 from Morehead City to Atlantic becoming an extension of NC 12 or NC 24?
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #802 on: October 01, 2020, 05:54:46 PM »

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Unless the Northern Carteret Bypass is constructed, I-42 will likely terminate at the southern end of the Havelock Bypass.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #803 on: October 01, 2020, 09:23:15 PM »

Where exactly will future Interstate 42 terminate in Morehead City? There are a number of places they could end the roadway. Also, once 42 is completed in full, is it possible that US 70 could be truncated to Interstate 40 in Auburn, with existing 70 from Morehead City to Atlantic becoming an extension of NC 12 or NC 24?

I think they should keep US 70, but reroute it onto the current Business 70 between Clayton and Smithfield, as well as rerouting it back though Havelock. (Plans for the bypass include rerouting US 70 onto the bypass and creating another Business 70 through the town.) They've already kept US 70 proper on its original (or, rather, then-current) alignment through Goldsboro and probably will again through Kinston.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #804 on: October 02, 2020, 12:01:43 PM »

Where exactly will future Interstate 42 terminate in Morehead City? There are a number of places they could end the roadway. Also, once 42 is completed in full, is it possible that US 70 could be truncated to Interstate 40 in Auburn, with existing 70 from Morehead City to Atlantic becoming an extension of NC 12 or NC 24?

I think they should keep US 70, but reroute it onto the current Business 70 between Clayton and Smithfield, as well as rerouting it back though Havelock. (Plans for the bypass include rerouting US 70 onto the bypass and creating another Business 70 through the town.) They've already kept US 70 proper on its original (or, rather, then-current) alignment through Goldsboro and probably will again through Kinston.

I agree.  Presuming they use 70 Bypass for I-42 there in Selma/Smithfield and reroute I-95 slightly so that they can build an interchange between those two in what's currently an open field with solar panels in it (like the plans I've seen have it), they can also extend US 70-A across I-95 for a mile and a half on what's currently US 70 to where 70 and 70 Bypass split just to the NW of I-95.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #805 on: October 03, 2020, 07:23:30 PM »

Johnston county already has 4 different US70s. Crazy, but NC does love to build a bypass.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #806 on: October 05, 2020, 06:35:00 AM »

This is my take for US70 and I-42 in Selma/Smithfield. (Assumes the I-95 realignment they talked about a few years back)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1BaSudrqbAl1mqUH8rnlpA6EujDjmz0_1&usp=sharing
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #807 on: October 05, 2020, 03:01:35 PM »

I refuse to believe they cant come up with a groundbreaking innovative design for an interchange that doesn't require the gargantuan task of moving a critically important interstate.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #808 on: October 05, 2020, 05:10:25 PM »

Where exactly will future Interstate 42 terminate in Morehead City? There are a number of places they could end the roadway. Also, once 42 is completed in full, is it possible that US 70 could be truncated to Interstate 40 in Auburn, with existing 70 from Morehead City to Atlantic becoming an extension of NC 12 or NC 24?

I think they should keep US 70, but reroute it onto the current Business 70 between Clayton and Smithfield, as well as rerouting it back though Havelock. (Plans for the bypass include rerouting US 70 onto the bypass and creating another Business 70 through the town.) They've already kept US 70 proper on its original (or, rather, then-current) alignment through Goldsboro and probably will again through Kinston.

I still don't understand why NCDOT is moving US-70 onto the Havelock Bypass instead of signing it as US-70 Bypass, which ought to be temporary until I-42 takes over the alignment. If it works in Goldsboro, there's no reason it couldn't work in Havelock. Makes me wonder if they're going to pull the same crap in Kinston.

The Goldsboro City Council tried to screw things up by asking NCDOT to relocate US-70 Business from it's downtown alignment to US-70. Thankfully, NCDOT ignored them.
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Re: Interstate 42
« Reply #809 on: October 05, 2020, 09:27:53 PM »

I still don't understand why NCDOT is moving US-70 onto the Havelock Bypass instead of signing it as US-70 Bypass, which ought to be temporary until I-42 takes over the alignment. If it works in Goldsboro, there's no reason it couldn't work in Havelock. Makes me wonder if they're going to pull the same crap in Kinston.

Seems to me that NCDOT is still careful about signage that encourages traffic on the old route (say Bypass US-70 versus Bus US-70) or discourages traffic (say US-70 versus unsigned).  Not sure that either of these apply to Havelock, but I would think that Base traffic would still be fairly heavy after the bypass.
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