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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 11:55:15 PM

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Quote from: carbaugh2 on September 26, 2026, 02:37:04 PMNC 12 is going to need another rebuild on the way to Rodanthe.

https://www.wxii12.com/article/nc-highway-12-update-ncdot-assess-damage-noreaster-obx/73903102

guess they should've made the jug-handle bridge and the Basnight bridge one long viaduct... :spin:

Dirt Roads

More info on the "four US-70 routes in Hillsborough" (as compared to those posted in the Smithfield-Selma area):  While flipping up the 1968 official county maps, I was surprised to see four US-70 routes back then:  US-70 along its current route; Bypass US-70 on Cornelius Street east of Revere Road; Business US-70 on Revere Road continuing downtown on Churton Street; and US-70A on the fourlane connector to Exit 161.  The more recent version from about 25 years ago was that the fourlane connector to Exit 161 had US-70X posted on the old streetblades. 

The connector was the original route of I-85 and was originally posted as US-70 when the Super Two was completed between Greensboro -and- Efland/Hillsborough.  The original US-70 became US-70A during that timeframe.  I wasn't aware of US-70A ever having been posted on the connector.  Given that the section of Business US-70 east of Churton Street was still known colloquially as US-70A (with given street addresses as such), does this mean that Hillsborough had five different US-70 routes at the same time?

Mapmikey

Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 27, 2026, 09:32:55 PMMore info on the "four US-70 routes in Hillsborough" (as compared to those posted in the Smithfield-Selma area):  While flipping up the 1968 official county maps, I was surprised to see four US-70 routes back then:  US-70 along its current route; Bypass US-70 on Cornelius Street east of Revere Road; Business US-70 on Revere Road continuing downtown on Churton Street; and US-70A on the fourlane connector to Exit 161.  The more recent version from about 25 years ago was that the fourlane connector to Exit 161 had US-70X posted on the old streetblades. 

The connector was the original route of I-85 and was originally posted as US-70 when the Super Two was completed between Greensboro -and- Efland/Hillsborough.  The original US-70 became US-70A during that timeframe.  I wasn't aware of US-70A ever having been posted on the connector.  Given that the section of Business US-70 east of Churton Street was still known colloquially as US-70A (with given street addresses as such), does this mean that Hillsborough had five different US-70 routes at the same time?

When US 70A through or around Hillsborough still existed, there was no US 70 Business or US 70 Bypass.

1944 Orange County


1949 Orange County


1962 Orange County

When US 70A went away circa 1960, that is when those 2 routes came into being.  If you are counting US 70 Bypass as a "separate routing" then US 70 is discontinuous. But I think most people consider US 70 and US 70 Bypass to be the same, reflecting the posting practice of NC for years.  This differentiates it from say Elizabeth City where a bannerless US 17 exists throughout in addition to a US 17 Bypass.

North Carolina formally redesignated their traditional Bypass routes as just regular mainline routes in the 1970s, despite how they may be posted then/now.

The US 70 ALT at Exit 161 became CONNECTOR around 1970...


1972 Orange County


I am aware of another A route like this, US 23A west of Asheville


1968 Buncombe County


WashuOtaku

Wikipedia does have the list of all Alternate U.S. Routes in North Carolina, past and present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Highways_in_North_Carolina#Alternate_routes

Mapmikey

Quote from: WashuOtaku on October 03, 2026, 09:15:57 AMWikipedia does have the list of all Alternate U.S. Routes in North Carolina, past and present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Highways_in_North_Carolina#Alternate_routes

Browsed through there...definitely missing several

Dirt Roads

Quote from: WashuOtaku on October 03, 2026, 09:15:57 AMWikipedia does have the list of all Alternate U.S. Routes in North Carolina, past and present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Highways_in_North_Carolina#Alternate_routes

Not an entirely accurate history of US-70A in this area.  Keep in mind that US-70A postings west of the Eno River were entirely separate routings and never attached to US-70A in Hillsborough.

West of the Eno River, US-70A was assigned to the original (and current) routing of US-70 by 1957 when the Super Two US-70 was completed to Greensboro.  Old timers around here indicated that there was a time when the Super Two US-70 was being constructed that the road bounced back to the old road in a few places.  I-85 was multiplexed onto that route by 1961 when the Interstate-standard freeway was completed.  US-70 was moved off of the freeway and back onto (most of) its original routing by 1963.  But I've never seen or heard of any historical reference to US-70A being posted on what is now streetbladed as the "I-85 Connector" (shown as Connector in the 1972 NCDOT official county map posted above by <Mapmikey>.

Mapmikey

Quote from: Mapmikey on October 03, 2026, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on October 03, 2026, 09:15:57 AMWikipedia does have the list of all Alternate U.S. Routes in North Carolina, past and present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Highways_in_North_Carolina#Alternate_routes

Browsed through there...definitely missing several

Here's the missing ones I am aware of:


US 13 ALT Williamston 1956-60.  Never seen a map of this but it was reported by NCDOT to AASHO in 1960.


US 13 ALT Powellsville?
May have briefly existed early 1960s.  Likely unposted.

1962 Bertie County

US 15 ALT Durham. Never seen a map of this but it was reported by NCDOT to AASHO in 1960.


US 29A-1 Concord.  Late 1940s-early 50s.

1949 Cabarrus County

US 64 ALT Hildebran.  Another I-40 connector, ~1962-76, likely unposted

1968 Burke County

US 64 ALT Plymouth. Never seen a map of this but it was reported by NCDOT to AASHO in 1960.  Could have been there 1949-60.


US 64 ALT Roper. Never seen a map of this but it was reported by NCDOT to AASHO in 1960.  Could have been there 1955-60.


US 70 ALT Efland.  The connector discussed above

US 301 ALT Smithfield.  Existed in the 1940s.

1944 Johnston County

US 301 ALT Weldon.  Existed ~1953-56.


The US 301 ALT entry for Halifax is in error.  US 301 became NC 113 through there and became US 301 Business in 1960. Explicitly stated in the 1960 declaration in 1960:


US 321 ALT Blowing Rock.  circa 1950.  Not on maps or in the 1960 AASHO document, but posted in the field:

1950 photo, National Archives

US 401 ALT Raeford.  Never seen a map of this but it was reported by NCDOT to AASHO in 1960.


US 421 ALT Greensboro.  May have existed 1933-36.


US 501 ALT Durham.  See US 15 ALT above.

Dirt Roads

Quote from: Mapmikey on October 05, 2026, 03:24:33 PMHere's the missing ones I am aware of:

US 321 ALT Blowing Rock.  circa 1950.  Not on maps or in the 1960 AASHO document, but posted in the field:

1950 photo, National Archives

Sweet.  By-Pass US-321 and Business US-321A.  Appears to be a misposting of US-321A and Business US-221, but but but...
... but the old road (North Main Street) is indeed Business US-321 multiplexed with "Plain Ole" US-221 (still posted that way today).  Nowadayas, the Blowing Rock By-Pass is fourlane undivided with turn lanes at this location.  We've got a friend that has a business very close to here.

Mapmikey

I think they were just emphasizing that 321A is the business route and 321 is the bypass.

When I first saw this photo I thought it was from about 1960 when NC was transitioning from A routes to Business routes. I was quite surprised it was from 1950 because maps didn't show anything there until 1954.


WashuOtaku

Quote from: architect77 on October 06, 2026, 11:54:45 PMSomeone may have mentioned it but there's the short US1-A through Wake Forest, NC and Youngsville, NC North of Raleigh.

There are two U.S. Route 1A in the state. Yes, in Wake Forest-Youngsville, and the other in Franklinton.

Wikipedia does have a list of Alternate routes in North Carolina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Highways_in_North_Carolina#Alternate_routes

74/171FAN

QuoteThere are two U.S. Route 1As in the state. Yes, in Wake Forest-Youngsville, and the other in Franklinton.

*were.  Since Franklinton was recently decommissioned.
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