Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

[pderocco]

If you've never seen a Yield sign at a T-intersection, and if you've never seen a Yield sign at a four-way intersection, then...  geez...  where have you seen one?

At the thousands of places where there are merges. If the intersection in question had a curved right turn lane, a yield would seem normal there, but this yield sign even applies to /left turns across southbound mainline traffic. If that's less unusual than I think it is, perhaps someone should post some other examples of that.

I'm just baffled that you've never seen a Yield sign posted anywhere except a merge.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fzja7AN5P9PjcE56A
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DMCtEdUeVBzM369L8

That's not what I said. I said that's where I see lots of yield signs. Sure, I've seen yield signs in other places, but never in this particular configuration where you can go left or right into a 55mph state highway.

[kphoger]

I can't think of a single other place where I've seen a yield sign at a perpendicular T intersection.

I don't see how a Yield sign at a T-intersection is more dangerous than a pair of Yield signs at a four-way intersection.

I've never encountered an example of that either.

That's not what I said. I said that's where I see lots of yield signs. Sure, I've seen yield signs in other places, but never in this particular configuration where you can go left or right into a 55mph state highway.

What you said is that you've never seen a Yield sign at a perpendicular T-intersection or at a four-way intersection.  This is the first time you've mentioned the speed limit.

If you have indeed seen Yield signs at T-intersections and four-way intersections, then I'm a lot less baffled.

[pderocco]

I can't think of a single other place where I've seen a yield sign at a perpendicular T intersection.

I don't see how a Yield sign at a T-intersection is more dangerous than a pair of Yield signs at a four-way intersection.

I've never encountered an example of that either.

That's not what I said. I said that's where I see lots of yield signs. Sure, I've seen yield signs in other places, but never in this particular configuration where you can go left or right into a 55mph state highway.

What you said is that you've never seen a Yield sign at a perpendicular T-intersection or at a four-way intersection.  This is the first time you've mentioned the speed limit.

If you have indeed seen Yield signs at T-intersections and four-way intersections, then I'm a lot less baffled.

In places where people drive slowly, anything goes. There are gridded neighborhoods around here with no signage whatsoever, but nobody in their right mind would drive more than 25 through them, so they have time to apply the ROW law when two cars approach the same intersection at 90 degrees. Perhaps I should have specified that I was talking about roads where people do drive at 35 or more. My original comment was "That's demented," and I still think that a yield sign at that intersection is both unusual and potentially dangerous. I'd still like to see further examples of that, where a yield sign applies to both a left and right turn onto a through road.

[Scott5114]

Am I the only one who doesn't see why it's demented that there's a yield sign there? If there's a car coming, you treat it exactly like you would if there was a stop sign. And if there's not a car coming, you don't have to come to a complete stop.

My understanding is that in other countries this type of setup is extremely common, to the point that it's unusual to most people to even see a stop sign because they're reserved for only the most dangerous intersections.

[Rothman]

Am I the only one who doesn't see why it's demented that there's a yield sign there?

I think it's obvious in the thread multiple people already expressed this.

[Beltway]

At the beginning of the I-64 GAP Widening projects, EB near Exit 205 VA-249.

[kphoger]

When people see a yield sign, they expect it's an easy merge at a gentle angle

Am I the only one who doesn't see why it's demented that there's a yield sign there? If there's a car coming, you treat it exactly like you would if there was a stop sign. And if there's not a car coming, you don't have to come to a complete stop.

Well, apparently, |pderocco| has a fundamental misunderstanding about what a Yield sign is for.  He seems to think it's just a decoration for when one line of traffic merges into another line of traffic—basically just the counterpart to a W4-1 sign.  An easy merge at a gentle angle ≠ the possibility of having to stop.

I'd still like to see further examples of that, where a yield sign applies to both a left and right turn onto a through road.

How about intersections with 65mph state highways in Colorado:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ukkk5BJVwVwYpkCv6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yBTvR1QueDkLgRWM9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/p8cDp7jZFeqaVwdp9

[pderocco]

When people see a yield sign, they expect it's an easy merge at a gentle angle

Am I the only one who doesn't see why it's demented that there's a yield sign there? If there's a car coming, you treat it exactly like you would if there was a stop sign. And if there's not a car coming, you don't have to come to a complete stop.

Well, apparently, |pderocco| has a fundamental misunderstanding about what a Yield sign is for.  He seems to think it's just a decoration for when one line of traffic merges into another line of traffic—basically just the counterpart to a W4-1 sign.  An easy merge at a gentle angle ≠ the possibility of having to stop.

That's ridiculous. I know perfectly well what a yield sign is for. Easy merges at a gentle angle aren't the definition of a yield, but they account for the vast majority of them, which influences what people expect when they see one.

How about intersections with 65mph state highways in Colorado:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ukkk5BJVwVwYpkCv6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yBTvR1QueDkLgRWM9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/p8cDp7jZFeqaVwdp9

That's scraping the bottom of the barrel. Those are dirt roads with single digit AADTs on absolutely flat lands with zero obstructions, where you can see for miles in every direction. That may be typical of the Great Plains, but not in the rest of the country.

Going back to the intersection in the original post, if that's a reasonable use of a yield sign, then the majority of all stop signs could reasonably be replaced with yield signs. That might actually be a good thing, legalizing the "California roll", but it would certainly change people's expectations of what the conditions are when they see a yield sign.

[hotdogPi]

Going back to the intersection in the original post, if that's a reasonable use of a yield sign, then the majority of all stop signs could reasonably be replaced with yield signs. That might actually be a good thing, legalizing the "California roll", but it would certainly change people's expectations of what the conditions are when they see a yield sign.

This is already how it's done in Europe.

[kphoger]

That's scraping the bottom of the barrel. Those are dirt roads with single digit AADTs on absolutely flat lands with zero obstructions, where you can see for miles in every direction. That may be typical of the Great Plains, but not in the rest of the country.

You keep moving the goalposts.  First it was Yield signs at T-intersections or four-way intersections.  Then it was intersections where the Yield sign controls left-turns on 55mph highways.  Now it can't be an unpaved road, or flat terrain without obstructions, or I guess anywhere in the Great Plains.  What's next?

I agree with you that it's unusual to see a Yield sign on a paved road intersecting another, 55mph, road without clear sightlines.  If you'd just said up front that that is what you've never seen before, then I wouldn't have bothered posting a bunch of GSV links to stuff you've seen but gave no indication of having seen before.

[kphoger]

For what it's worth, in the original intersection linked to, the road with the Yield sign has a 30mph speed limit and is immediately below a residential area.  All three of the unpaved roads in Colorado that I linked to have a speed limit of 55mph.  I don't see what dirt/gravel has to do with it.

[interstatefan990]

I think a good compromise here is that the yield sign in question is unusual for the conditions at best, and way out of the ordinary by typical American standards at worst.

[pderocco]

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

[Rothman]

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

Empty blue signs are unique?

[ClassicHasClass]

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

My main use for Boron now is the Love's when we're going the desert route. I'm surprised about the hotels, though. Wouldn't think there would be much on-base accommodation for people with business at Edwards AFB.

[Max Rockatansky]

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

My main use for Boron now is the Love's when we're going the desert route. I'm surprised about the hotels, though. Wouldn't think there would be much on-base accommodation for people with business at Edwards AFB.

Actually, military hotel lodging is a huge thing.  The biggest hotel complex I deal with semi-regularly is out in NAS Fallon which has 18 buildings.  Here in California my three bases have about 400 combined rooms.  It would have been about 800 if we had taken over the Hotel Del Monte from MWR.  We usually put long-term contractors in hotel rooms we manage.  I can easily see how a small hotel in Boron couldn't compete with the hotels on base.

[ClassicHasClass]

There's lodging at March, but I wasn't aware there were any at Edwards (but I haven't been on Edwards since I was very young).

[roadman65]

Interesting way to abbreviate Portland on a guide sign.

[pderocco]

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

This seems appropriate for Boron CA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/f6ST1c2WMhB1HfD67

The last two motels closed about eight years ago.

Empty blue signs are unique?

No, they're odd.

[pderocco]

Interesting way to abbreviate Portland on a guide sign.

They could have just put "PDX". In fact, people sometimes refer to the city as PDX.

[formulanone]

Interesting way to abbreviate Portland on a guide sign.

They could have just put "PDX". In fact, people sometimes refer to the city as PDX.

A port.airport on the port side of the sign.

[roadman65]

https://flic.kr/p/2sntfyV

Then there is little old SH 130.

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GL6fwMdf8SjaJtgd9

https://maps.app.goo.gl/E4MLVaNhZYCvinKw6

Pan it around 180 degrees as Googlemaps effen sucks.  Dont know why it is doing this.

JCT I-82 to the right is 197 miles away.

[74/171FAN]

Some in the Alexandria area along SR 613 and VA 401

Eisenhower Ave at VA 401 (curb lane mentioned)

EISENHOWER AVE AT VA 401 AND FARRINGTON AVE (2) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

(No U-Turn Sign at private business)
EISENHOWER AVE AT VA 401 AND FARRINGTON AVE (3) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

At the Comfort Inn by I-95 Exit 173 (no back-in parking sign should be white instead of yellow, but it is a hotel so....)

SR 613 SOUTH AT COMFORT INN by Mark Moore, on Flickr

[CoreySamson]

I saw these on GSV as I was following my friends' GPS track a couple of days ago.  It appears that a bunch of them were installed along a few stretches of highway not too long ago. Has anyone seen this combination used elsewhere to warn of a level crossing on a side-road with low ground clearance?

I've found some more of these combos on some recent drives in the past month.

Here's a variant with a railroad crossing sign instead of the sign on the left in Bay City, TX:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1pTvYiiLkJECKDudA

Here's one mounted vertically on a single pole near Tavener, TX:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fRQxq2CteoABNL8H8

I also saw some other "U-pole combos" on US 90 ALT between Hallettsville and Rosenberg, TX, as well as another one in Bay City, but GSV hasn't updated to show them yet. Must be a fairly new practice from TxDOT.