New Jersey Turnpike

[Alps]

True.  I was thinking in terms of the Exit signage, exit tabs, and the arrows.

Well, with the recent widening of the Turnpike and the extension of the car/truck lane system down to Exit 6, you'd think if they were going to put MUTCD-compliant BGS's, they'd put them up at that time.  However, the last time I went up the Turnpike, we had brand new BGS's in this stretch with NJTP style arrows.

It was the result of the agreement the NJTA had with the Feds.  I don't know the exact date, but at some point the Feds required the NJ Turnpike to use MUTCD compliant signage on future projects. Since the 6-9 widening was already in progress (even in cases where bids for specific sections may not have not been put out to bid, or where the signs were not yet manufactured), the NJTA did not have to change their plans to require MUTCD-style BGS signage in that project.

It was not a Federal requirement. It was the NJTA's desire to comply now before their hand was forced.

[jeffandnicole]

Ah, ok. What if their hand was forced? Would they have been required to actually put up the 95 shields?? Lol

[NJRoadfan]

I wouldn't be surprised if Exit 9 gets new signs sometime soon (maybe after they finish the NJ-18 interchange construction in 2014). Still got button copy up there! https://goo.gl/maps/ZTcPEkxvyox

[J Route Z]

I wouldn't be surprised if Exit 9 gets new signs sometime soon (maybe after they finish the NJ-18 interchange construction in 2014). Still got button copy up there! https://goo.gl/maps/ZTcPEkxvyox

I always found it amusing that they replaced the other sign but kept the thru traffic sign button copy.

[Don'tKnowYet]

I wouldn't be surprised if Exit 9 gets new signs sometime soon (maybe after they finish the NJ-18 interchange construction in 2014). Still got button copy up there! https://goo.gl/maps/ZTcPEkxvyox

They installed the new overhead signs exiting after the toll plaza the other night.

[ekt8750]

Ah, ok. What if their hand was forced? Would they have been required to actually put up the 95 shields?? Lol

I think there's a better chance of seeing I-595 shields in Maryland first lol

[bzakharin]

Ah, ok. What if their hand was forced? Would they have been required to actually put up the 95 shields?? Lol

I think there's a better chance of seeing I-595 shields in Maryland first lol

I-95 shields appear on entrance BGSs after (inside) toll barriers as far south as Exit 8:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2632497,-74.50704,3a,75y,275.66h,84.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5ZB9FnRh6i4J6LJQDy5qJQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
(the exit from I-195 for the Turnpike has one too, but that was erected by NJDOT, not NJTA)

[jeffandnicole]

Yeah they have them in some locations, but oddly not all locations where they should've been posted as of yet.

[hotdogPi]

Yeah they have them in some locations, but oddly not allocations at locations where they should've been posted as of yet.

Autocorrect?

[jeffandnicole]

Yeah they have them in some locations, but oddly not allocations at locations where they should've been posted as of yet.

Autocorrect?

I am the worst when it comes to typing on my phone.

[storm2k]

Ah, ok. What if their hand was forced? Would they have been required to actually put up the 95 shields?? Lol

I think there's a better chance of seeing I-595 shields in Maryland first lol

I-95 shields appear on entrance BGSs after (inside) toll barriers as far south as Exit 8:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2632497,-74.50704,3a,75y,275.66h,84.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5ZB9FnRh6i4J6LJQDy5qJQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
(the exit from I-195 for the Turnpike has one too, but that was erected by NJDOT, not NJTA)

The one for Exit 8 only came into existence when they rebuilt the interchange as part of the widening. Interestingly it did not get the same treatment as the ones for the other expansion exit redesigns which use actual location names instead of just "Turnpike North" and "Turnpike South" and include the NJTP shield.

[Mergingtraffic]

I should clarify, any button copy signage left?  I haven't been on the turnpike since November. 

Such as and more...

[storm2k]

I should clarify, any button copy signage left?  I haven't been on the turnpike since November. 

Such as and more...

The Exit 12 sign is still there, but endangered. All of the button copy will be eventually replaced by the MUTCD replacement project north of Exit 10.

[KEVIN_224]

I think the TRENTON - 30 MILES sign is still there. I think it's southbound, just beyond Exit 9 in North Brunswick (maybe New Brunswick)?

[lepidopteran]

I think the TRENTON - 30 MILES sign is still there. I think it's southbound, just beyond Exit 9 in North Brunswick (maybe New Brunswick)?

I distinctly remember a series of signs reading "NEW YORK -- NN MILES" starting at least 90 miles, on the NB pike in the early '70s.  They, too, were low to the ground and with button copy.  But in the late '90s, those signs had been replaced with another series of signs, starting from 100 miles.  These were higher up, about the height of a services sign, and had an unusual font.  Not sure if they were button copy, and I suspect they were not placed at the same locations as the old signs.  These all vanished around 2000 or so.

[storm2k]

Saw that near Exit 11 NB, they are pouring the foundations for the new sign bridges for the MUTCD replacement project. They also have a work area near the 2 mile point of Exit 12 for more sign work it looks like. This means that the remaining button copy in this area is very endangered now.

[Mergingtraffic]

Saw that near Exit 11 NB, they are pouring the foundations for the new sign bridges for the MUTCD replacement project. They also have a work area near the 2 mile point of Exit 12 for more sign work it looks like. This means that the remaining button copy in this area is very endangered now.

WOW I think we can count on one hand how much button copy is left (not counting the current Exit 12 signs).  NJ-495 signage is gone, Exit 10 signage is gone, the relics around Exit 16 and 15E are gone.  Any others left? The Exit 17 SB signs and the black Speed Limit 50 on I-78 still there?  A shame I tell ya

[jeffandnicole]

Saw that near Exit 11 NB, they are pouring the foundations for the new sign bridges for the MUTCD replacement project. They also have a work area near the 2 mile point of Exit 12 for more sign work it looks like. This means that the remaining button copy in this area is very endangered now.

WOW I think we can count on one hand how much button copy is left (not counting the current Exit 12 signs).  NJ-495 signage is gone, Exit 10 signage is gone, the relics around Exit 16 and 15E are gone.  Any others left? The Exit 17 SB signs and the black Speed Limit 50 on I-78 still there?  A shame I tell ya

Off the NJ Turnpike, you can still find a fair amount throughout the state.

[Mr. Matté]

Are the Turnpike's new VMS signs and gantries (albeit painted green rather than left bare Corten steel) spilling over to the Delaware River and Bay Authority's bridges?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6953024,-75.5458938,3a,75y,72.79h,96.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGuhwb2YXo9bPoLpCUA1Nrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US

[NJRoadfan]

I mentioned that on an earlier post. Looks like the DRBA got in on the same VMS contract as the Turnpike.

[jeffandnicole]

Are the Turnpike's new VMS signs and gantries (albeit painted green rather than left bare Corten steel) spilling over to the Delaware River and Bay Authority's bridges?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6953024,-75.5458938,3a,75y,72.79h,96.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGuhwb2YXo9bPoLpCUA1Nrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US

Yes. Both they and the PANYNJ (I believe) went with the same structure design.

[storm2k]

Saw that near Exit 11 NB, they are pouring the foundations for the new sign bridges for the MUTCD replacement project. They also have a work area near the 2 mile point of Exit 12 for more sign work it looks like. This means that the remaining button copy in this area is very endangered now.

WOW I think we can count on one hand how much button copy is left (not counting the current Exit 12 signs).  NJ-495 signage is gone, Exit 10 signage is gone, the relics around Exit 16 and 15E are gone.  Any others left? The Exit 17 SB signs and the black Speed Limit 50 on I-78 still there?  A shame I tell ya

I'm pretty sure the Exit 17 signs are gone. Everything north of Exit 10 is going away as the MUTCD project covers all of that. Everything from 6 to 8A is new from the expansion project and everything from 5 to 1 was replaced in the past four or five years (so still classic Turnpike style but all new reflective non-button copy signage). In the not too distant future, there won't be a lick of button copy left, depending on whether or not they replace the barrel signs at the on-ramps from 9 through 14 (excluding Exit 10 which is getting the newer hybrid barrel/VMS signs as part of the ramp work there).

[The Ghostbuster]

It's sequential exit sequence. And those signs look god-awful. And I think the portion between exits 1 and 6 should be Interstate 695 or Interstate 895 (although that is getting into fictional territory).

[Mergingtraffic]

Saw that near Exit 11 NB, they are pouring the foundations for the new sign bridges for the MUTCD replacement project. They also have a work area near the 2 mile point of Exit 12 for more sign work it looks like. This means that the remaining button copy in this area is very endangered now.

WOW I think we can count on one hand how much button copy is left (not counting the current Exit 12 signs).  NJ-495 signage is gone, Exit 10 signage is gone, the relics around Exit 16 and 15E are gone.  Any others left? The Exit 17 SB signs and the black Speed Limit 50 on I-78 still there?  A shame I tell ya

Off the NJ Turnpike, you can still find a fair amount throughout the state.

Which is why I want to get down there and get some updated photos.  My favs are the I-80s and the GSP interchange..but that's for another thread

[jeffandnicole]

It's sequential exit sequence. And those signs look god-awful. And I think the portion between exits 1 and 6 should be Interstate 695 or Interstate 895 (although that is getting into fictional territory).

Which ones...old or new?  And the route number has been and will be argued for centuries, even though no one seems to mind as it's one of the business roads in America (regardless if people know what route they're actually on).