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Started by hotdogPi, December 22, 2013, 09:04:24 PM

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D-Dey65

Quote from: J Route Z on February 23, 2019, 03:06:58 AM
That sign should go into the Smithsonian.
If another one is around sure. But I think there should be one within the state.  If it can't be on the Turnpike itself, at least in some museum. I was going to suggest something like the New Jersey Museum of Transportation, but the only type of transportation they seem interested in is the railroad.




tolbs17

Quote from: KEVIN_224 on July 25, 2019, 03:50:33 PM
Yes...it needs to be widened again. It would be odd, in a way, for it to be widened north to Exit 4 (Mount Laurel), have the part that's as-is now in between and then hit the last widened section from Exit 6 (Mansfield) northward! :)

Now just imagine I-95 from about Kearny/Secaucus (either spur) north to Fort Lee as only two lanes on each side! WHOA!  :-o

6 or 8 lanes? And most highways in New Jersey are 6 lanes by the way im just saying.

KEVIN_224

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 25, 2019, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on July 25, 2019, 03:50:33 PM
Yes...it needs to be widened again. It would be odd, in a way, for it to be widened north to Exit 4 (Mount Laurel), have the part that's as-is now in between and then hit the last widened section from Exit 6 (Mansfield) northward! :)

Now just imagine I-95 from about Kearny/Secaucus (either spur) north to Fort Lee as only two lanes on each side! WHOA!  :-o

6 or 8 lanes? And most highways in New Jersey are 6 lanes by the way im just saying.

Hmmm! I want to say 4/4, especially with traffic in the summer and at holiday periods. Are the bridges wide enough though? I'm not on the Turnpike south of Exit 4 that often.

tolbs17

Nope, as I think they don't have any plans to widen the road at all.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 25, 2019, 07:07:55 PM
Nope, as I think they don't have any plans to widen the road at all.

When they have replaced overpasses between interchanges 1 and 4, they have been built to accommodate a 3rd lane.

Alps

Having seen the traffic volumes, the most likely widening is going to be from Interchanges 3-4 - that's the one area that's close to capacity right now. 1-3 isn't so bad, and is constrained by the Del Mem Br anyway. Anything north of 4 will need new volumes because of the I-95 interchange completion, so I can't comment there.
(Note: this is my opinion, not a statement of engineering judgment.)

RobbieL2415

Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.

Pretty much every Friday in the summer!

tolbs17

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.

Based on luck and time of the day and year also. If there's an event or accident then yeah it will back up. Widening would come in handy.

famartin

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?

famartin

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 26, 2019, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.

Pretty much every Friday in the summer!

Not sure how to prevent any bottleneck other than building a third span of the Delaware Memorial Bridge, and even then you'd still get more problems into DE.  Without a general system-wide expansion, it seems like there will be backups somewhere.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?

Not that I'm checking every minute, but generally when there's backups on the NJ Turnpike there's going to be backups on I-95 in PA.  Everytime I have looked, using 95 takes longer than taking the NJ Turnpike.

Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:32:28 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 26, 2019, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.

Pretty much every Friday in the summer!

Not sure how to prevent any bottleneck other than building a third span of the Delaware Memorial Bridge, and even then you'd still get more problems into DE.  Without a general system-wide expansion, it seems like there will be backups somewhere.

The problem is there's still too much traffic on the NJ Turnpike at Exit 4.  Some of this traffic exits at Exit 3. Between 3 & 1, there's a bit of left lane hogging that goes on that also causes congestion.  While this area is fine most days, there's certainly a congestion issue during holiday and vacation drive times.  I think the Delaware Memorial Bridge's width is fine, because any problems are usually caused downstream closer to US 13/40 (reduced as 295 now has 3 lanes thru there) and the approach to I-95, which only has 2 thru lanes for a short stretch and is the finite cause of much of the congestion going back towards the bridge and the NJ Turnpike.  This area has been made a bit better due to reconfiguration of the lanes, but ultimately there's still only 2 lanes to get to 95 South.

So while some congestion can be eliminated on the NJ Turnpike, you're right in that once they approach 95, they're going to be hitting it anyway.

famartin

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 27, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?

Not that I'm checking every minute, but generally when there's backups on the NJ Turnpike there's going to be backups on I-95 in PA.  Everytime I have looked, using 95 takes longer than taking the NJ Turnpike.

To Philly proper?  I haven't seen that.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 27, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?

Not that I'm checking every minute, but generally when there's backups on the NJ Turnpike there's going to be backups on I-95 in PA.  Everytime I have looked, using 95 takes longer than taking the NJ Turnpike.

To Philly proper?  I haven't seen that.

I meant thru NJ to Delaware. Missed that he was going to Philly. No reason to use the Turnpike below Exit 6 to get to Philly unless there's an unusually serious situation on 95. Even the NJ Turnpike removed all references to Philly at Interchanges 3 & 4.

Usually these questions/statements are in reference to thru traffic between North Jersey and Delaware.

tolbs17

Never been on the new I-95 interchange but looking at it from Google Maps looks pretty cool. It's a business route while the southside of the turnpike is a bypass.

RobbieL2415

Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

tolbs17

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

jeffandnicole

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

tolbs17

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

It appears he was headed south from North Jersey towards Philly, and probably crossed over the Betsy Ross, Ben Franklin or Walt Whitman Bridges.

tolbs17

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

It appears he was headed south from North Jersey towards Philly, and probably crossed over the Betsy Ross, Ben Franklin or Walt Whitman Bridges.

I think i've been that way before when I took a detour around the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not familiar with that section.

famartin

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

It appears he was headed south from North Jersey towards Philly, and probably crossed over the Betsy Ross, Ben Franklin or Walt Whitman Bridges.

I think i've been that way before when I took a detour around the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not familiar with that section.

He said in the original post that he was going to Philly. The mention of the merge at Exit 4 indicated he was coming from somewhere northeast of Philly.

tolbs17

Quote from: famartin on July 28, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

It appears he was headed south from North Jersey towards Philly, and probably crossed over the Betsy Ross, Ben Franklin or Walt Whitman Bridges.

I think i've been that way before when I took a detour around the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not familiar with that section.

He said in the original post that he was going to Philly. The mention of the merge at Exit 4 indicated he was coming from somewhere northeast of Philly.

There's over 100 pages, so I don't want to just waste my time going through all of them. But using I-95 to Philly is not a bad idea at all. I would want to go there and see what it's like!

famartin

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: famartin on July 28, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 28, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 28, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: famartin on July 27, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 26, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
Can confirm there's still traffic backing up before the merge at Exit 4.  Drove in it today on my way to Philly.
Didn't want to try the new I-95 interchange?
Google sent me that way because of traffic. I went that way home the next day and I used it back in January with no issue

Must have been a backup on the Delaware Memorial Bridge. But that rarely happens

Coming from North Jersey, the Del. Mem. Bridge wouldn't be crossed going to Philly.

Didn't know what he was saying. Sometimes people need to be a little more specific because I thought people go home by going south and over the bridge.

It appears he was headed south from North Jersey towards Philly, and probably crossed over the Betsy Ross, Ben Franklin or Walt Whitman Bridges.

I think i've been that way before when I took a detour around the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not familiar with that section.

He said in the original post that he was going to Philly. The mention of the merge at Exit 4 indicated he was coming from somewhere northeast of Philly.

There's over 100 pages, so I don't want to just waste my time going through all of them. But using I-95 to Philly is not a bad idea at all. I would want to go there and see what it's like!

The post being discussed is on this page and was made two days ago. And is quoted in your post.

PHLBOS

^^Is it possible that mrhappy1261 was actually referring to the Delaware River Bridge (aka the Turnpike Connector Bridge (aka I-95)) as opposed to the Delaware Memorial Bridge?
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