Department of Redundancy Department

[pderocco]

A little redundant with the stop signs at a railroad crossing near Alton, IL, along with a non-standard 'Stop Railroad Crossing' sign.

The signs are redundant because the railroads are redundant.

[74/171FAN]

On I-84 WB at the Taconic State Pkwy

I-84 WEST AT TACONIC STATE PKWY NORTH (EXIT 52B) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

[1995hoo]

Every time I see this thread, I'm reminded of the old sign that used to be on the Belt Parkway approaching Bay Ridge, but I had trouble finding a photo. Eventually I found it using Web Archive. See below. The arrow at the bottom was the original one, but at some point it was covered over with an orange banner reading "ALT ROUTE TO [I-278 shield] EAST." Signs of that sort were all over Bay Ridge. I don't remember what the construction was that necessitated them, but when I was a kid we used this exit frequently because my maternal grandparents lived in Bay Ridge and we used the Belt Parkway going to and from Breezy Point or to and from visiting my other grandmother in Far Rockaway. Anyway, the orange banner necessitated the second arrow seen in this image, and then when the banner was removed the second arrow remained until the sign was eventually replaced.

[74/171FAN]

On I-84 WB at US 9 SB in Fishkill, NY

I-84 WEST AT US 9 SOUTH (EXIT 46A) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

[roadfro]

A little redundant with the stop signs at a railroad crossing near Alton, IL, along with a non-standard 'Stop Railroad Crossing' sign.

The signs are redundant because the railroads are redundant.

There's a lot of redundancy here, as well as some "right idea, wrong sign" applications, when you step back a bit. In addition to the stop signs, there are four railroad crossing warning signs, three of which are unnecessary (and two are in locations where a crossbuck should be used instead, and one of those would be redundant to another crossbuck). Also a crossbuck errantly posted in advance of the crossing. What a cluster...

Somehow, the other direction is just fine.

[kphoger]

Somehow, the other direction is just fine.

Well, except for the crossbuck posted after all the railroad crossings...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ygJW83c1nGQ2ptto7

ETA — Huh.  TIL that's normal.

[thenetwork]

A little redundant with the stop signs at a railroad crossing near Alton, IL, along with a non-standard 'Stop Railroad Crossing' sign.

The signs are redundant because the railroads are redundant.

That "5 Tracks" portion of the sign is in a a bit of a gray area as the 5th "track" is the very start of a spur off of the 4th.  So technically, only 4 of those tracks could be in use at the same time.

I know, I'm older...get off my lawn! 

[kphoger]

That "5 Tracks" portion of the sign is in a a bit of a gray area as the 5th "track" is the very start of a spur off of the 4th.  So technically, only 4 of those tracks could be in use at the same time.

I think that's common practice for signing in such situations, though.

[freebrickproductions]

Somehow, the other direction is just fine.

Well, except for the crossbuck posted after all the railroad crossings...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ygJW83c1nGQ2ptto7

ETA — Huh.  TIL that's normal.

Yeah, a lot of railroads use double-sided crossbucks on crossbuck only crossings, and most Class Is (IIRC) use them on signals as well. IIRC, there's a requirement for crossbucks to have some amount of retroreflectivity on their rear, which can either be achieved by a stripe on the backs of the crossbucks or just by using one of those double-sided crossbucks.

[Revive 755]

IIRC, there's a requirement for crossbucks to have some amount of retroreflectivity on their rear, which can either be achieved by a stripe on the backs of the crossbucks or just by using one of those double-sided crossbucks.

The retroreflectivity is a MUTCD requirement.

A strip of retroreflective white material not less than 2 inches in width shall be used on the back of each blade of each Crossbuck sign for the length of each blade at all passive grade crossings, except those where Crossbuck signs have been installed back-to-back or where double-faced Crossbuck signs have been installed.
Option:
A strip of retroreflective white material not less than 2 inches in width may be used on the back of each blade of each Crossbuck sign for the length of each blade at active grade crossings.

The option statement for crossbucks at crossings with active warning devices is a downgrade from the 2009 MUTCD, which required the reflectivity on the back side for all grade crossings.

[74/171FAN]

Just as much fits in the unique thread, but this is on I-68 WB entering Cumberland, MD (with US 40 and US 220)

I-68 AND US 40 WEST, AND US 220 SOUTH NEAR MARYLAND AVE (EXIT 43D) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

[WillWeaverRVA]

Just as much fits in the unique thread, but this is on I-68 WB entering Cumberland, MD (with US 40 and US 220)

I-68 AND US 40 WEST, AND US 220 SOUTH NEAR MARYLAND AVE (EXIT 43D) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

I wonder what the speed limit could possibly be?

[kirbykart]

Just as much fits in the unique thread, but this is on I-68 WB entering Cumberland, MD (with US 40 and US 220)
image
I-68 AND US 40 WEST, AND US 220 SOUTH NEAR MARYLAND AVE (EXIT 43D) by Mark Moore, on Flickr

I wonder what the speed limit could possibly be?

Clearly these signs are reassurance shields for US 40, and the speed limit is 220 MPH.

[xonhulu]

At the junction of US 60 and NM 47 southwest of Belen:

[kphoger]

At the junction of US 60 and NM 47 southwest of Belen

It's in New Mexico?  Then we should be glad there's a sign at all.  Two? we'll take it!

[hbelkins]

So nice they signed it twice!



This intersection was recently rebuilt, and signage was included, even thought the existing signage was still good.

[The_Ginger]

So nice they signed it twice!

It could be me, but that sign in the foreground seems to have a more compressed Series B font.