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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2014, 02:03:12 PM »

That was all true of the UT, CO and NM section of the road. If I remember correctly UT and CO had the moral and superstition objection to it and asked ASHTTO for a renunbering, and NM just followed along siting continuity and a main reason because of the high expense of re signing the route due to theft of the popular number. Now AZ changed their leg from US 666 to an extension of US 191 many years before due to public pressure about religious reasoning, but officially siting the same as NM that there were too many thefts.

New Mexico's change was in conjunction with a reconstruction project. There were grand plans to four-lane the road all the way from Shiprock to Gallup. I don't know how much of the work has been completed to date.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2014, 02:07:33 PM »

Weird. I didn't realize it was standard practice to renumber a route as part of a reconstruction.

Oh wait, it's not.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2014, 08:05:36 PM »

Weird. I didn't realize it was standard practice to renumber a route as part of a reconstruction.

Oh wait, it's not.

You haven't been paying attention.

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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2014, 09:40:08 PM »

I've been all over the South and I've visited many Southern cities: Atlanta, Savannah, Augusta, Macon, Columbus, Birmingham, Baton Rouge, Montgomery, Mobile, Jacksonville, Charleston, Memphis, Knoxville, Nashville, Chattanooga, Little Rock, Fayetteville metro, New Orleans, Shreveport, Texarkana, and Tulsa is far more like Kansas City or Omaha than it is to Memphis or Birmingham.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2014, 02:10:04 AM »

Oklahoma part of the South?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  You've obviously never been here.  Tulsa has WAY more in common with Kansas City than Atlanta, Little Rock, or Memphis.

Kansas City is a border area between part of the Plains (eastern CO, KS, NE), the Midwest (IA, IL), and differing areas of the South (OK/TX vs. AR/LA/MS).  Missouri is an interesting state being as it has a foot in both the Midwest (IA, N 2/3rds IL, IN, OH, WI, MN, MI) and the mid-South (AR, KY, TN).

Kansas City is solidly midwestern.  The great plains don't begin until well west of the KC metro.  Again, Oklahoma is not southern.  Texas is its own region.

The US Census Bureau map is on this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

Southern English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_American_English

Note where Oklahoma is.

For contrast, here's the Midwest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States

Midwestern English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Northern_American_English, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Central_American_English

Geographers have no idea where to put Oklahoma. In school, our geography books lumped us and Texas in with the Southwest.

Oklahoma has a lot in common with Texas, but not with any other Southern state. Really, Oklahoma is what you would get if Kansas and Texas had a kid.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2014, 09:55:45 AM »


I remember when US 666 ran concurrently with I-40 west of Gallup into Arizona and then southward. I don't remember exactly when it was renumbered as US 191. Does anyone know the reasoning (announced or otherwise) for that decision? Was it sign theft or satanic allusions or what?

I think it was a combination of the two factors, from what I've read.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2014, 10:07:20 PM »

This one caught my eye ... not a renumbering, more of an adjustment:

http://kwgn.com/2014/01/10/cdot-replaced-420-mile-marker-sign-with-419-99-sign-because-of-thieves/
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2014, 10:13:22 PM »

This one caught my eye ... not a renumbering, more of an adjustment:

http://kwgn.com/2014/01/10/cdot-replaced-420-mile-marker-sign-with-419-99-sign-because-of-thieves/

Wouldn't people steal it for being unique?

Also, it is actually placed .01 mile before mile 420 (being accurate), or is it placed at mile 420 as usual?
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2014, 01:16:23 AM »

This one caught my eye ... not a renumbering, more of an adjustment:

http://kwgn.com/2014/01/10/cdot-replaced-420-mile-marker-sign-with-419-99-sign-because-of-thieves/

Wouldn't people steal it for being unique?

Also, it is actually placed .01 mile before mile 420 (being accurate), or is it placed at mile 420 as usual?

Answer:  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/%E2%80%98mile-420--marker-replaced-in-colorado-after-repeated-thefts-from-pot-fans-191311273.html
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2014, 03:27:44 AM »

50 feet doesn't make a whole lot of difference when you're driving 75, anyway.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2014, 02:55:18 PM »

50 feet doesn't make a whole lot of difference when you're driving 75, anyway.

52.8 feet. 
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2014, 03:25:21 PM »

50 feet doesn't make a whole lot of difference when you're driving 75, anyway.

52.8 feet. 

Well that makes a whole lot of difference. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2014, 03:33:08 PM »

If you have to slam your brakes from 75, eight inches could make a difference. Dont ask me why you would need to slam your brakes for a mile marker- unless youre out to steal it and its not quite where you thought it would be

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Re: Renumberings due to sign theft
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2014, 03:58:01 PM »

50 feet doesn't make a whole lot of difference when you're driving 75, anyway.

52.8 feet. 

Well that makes a whole lot of difference. Thanks for pointing it out.

Well, it is approximately 0.01 mile.  :-P
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