Carrying Out My Plan (S UT/N AZ E-W US Route)

[Rover_0]

For those on these boards somewhat familiar with me, many of you know that I've long advocated a single east-west US Route (or even MSR) through southern Utah and northern Arizona, beginning at I-15 and following UT-9, UT-59, AZ-389, running concurrent with US-89A and US-89, and AZ-98 to US-160. Here's a map.

Now, as we've discussed before, I've suggested this as a US-64 extension, and most of you on the boards suggest a US-160 reroute/extension (with 64 going down 160 and AZ-64 to Williams). Another idea I've toyed with is to carry out one variation what some folks in San Juan County planned in the 1980s: A US-163 extension* (renumbering as well?) that would continue east, running concurrent with US-160, then using US-163, concurrent with US-191, then UT-162/CO-41 to US-160 in SW Colorado. Here's a map of the 163/(191)/162/41 route--in a vacuum.

As long as I'm living here in the region (have no idea for how long), I feel the need to bring it to as many affected city councils as possible by way of a PowerPoint presentation. I've talked with Kanab officials (brought it up at a city council meeting), and they seem to like it and plan on taking it up to state legislators (as route numbering by way of law is how Utah rolls).

Also, as was similarly discussed in the US-60 re-extension into CA thread, any actual change comes in the form of a "trickle-up" process, which I'm trying to apply here. It looks like there's some movement that hopefully goes forward, and I don't plan on just bringing updates in this thread; I also want to gauge your input and feedback as well.

So, to start off: Am I doing it right? What would be the preferred number of such a route (US-160 reroute/extension, US-64 extension, US-x60/x64/x89/x91*,)? Any general comments?

*US-x91 in a US-163 renumber/extension, where it meets US-191. I do like the thought of a US-x91 connecting US-91's replacement and US-191, but I don't think it's as ideal as the other ideas.

[Scott5114]

Mod note: this was reported with the comment "wrong board". Presumably the reporter felt it should be in Fictional Highways. This is not Fictional Highways content, because the poster is actively taking steps to make the plan happen.

[national highway 1]

Rover, I do like your plans here, you seem very enthusiastic about your numbering proposals. I do endorse US 64 taking over US 160 and AZ 64, a) because there are AZ routes 264 and 564 branching off US 160 and by making US 64 as the 'parent' route would be appropriate; and b) it doesn't seem to cause any confusion promoting AZ 64 into US 64, because it would consolidate both routes. At least it will connect the Four Corners Region to Vegas (via I-40 and US 93) or Southern California (via I-40).
I also like your US 160 extension/reroute over AZ 98, US 89, US 89A, AZ 389 / UT 59 and UT 9. Seems that this is an important east-west corridor.
I think your US 163 extension can be called US 291 (even though Utah already has a very short UT 291 which can be decommissioned).

[english si]

At least it will connect the Four Corners Region to Vegas (via I-40 and US 93) or Southern California (via I-40).
I also like your US 160 extension/reroute over AZ 98, US 89, US 89A, AZ 389 / UT 59 and UT 9. Seems that this is an important east-west corridor.

Wouldn't Four Corners - Vegas traffic be better off going via 'US160', rather than 'US64' (quotes as numbers aren't fixed) then back north?

[Rover_0]

At least it will connect the Four Corners Region to Vegas (via I-40 and US 93) or Southern California (via I-40).
I also like your US 160 extension/reroute over AZ 98, US 89, US 89A, AZ 389 / UT 59 and UT 9. Seems that this is an important east-west corridor.

Wouldn't Four Corners - Vegas traffic be better off going via 'US160', rather than 'US64' (quotes as numbers aren't fixed) then back north?

In terms of the fastest route, yes. However, you could make a case for the northern route and connect to Lake Powell, Grand Staircase NM, the Grand Canyon's North Rim, and Zion NP.

If you're feeling especially ambitious, you could add Las Vegas and Death Valley...

... and make this into a National Parks route of sorts, but I plan to take things one step at a time.

[Rover_0]

Just some musing before I continue on with this...

...while it would take a lot more changing to do so (and long concurrencies), a couple ideas that I've played with are to extend either US-56 or US-84 along this route.

US-56 concurrent with (US-64), takes over US-84 to (US-160) to CO-41 to UT-162 to (US-191) to US-163 to (US-160) to AZ-98 and from there west to I-15.

US-84 could just be extended (just to clarify). That said, that would cause some numbering problems within Utah as there's already I-84 there.

Again, this isn't likely, but it may be a possibility should this gain enough traction.

Don't worry folks, I haven't fallen off the face of the earth on this, just working through some documents.