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New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« on: June 27, 2019, 09:26:33 AM »

Seems like there are finally some serious steps, as design funds are being voted upon.

https://www.masslive.com/capecod/2019/06/5-million-approved-by-house-for-project-to-replace-outdated-sagamore-bourne-bridges-on-cape-cod.html

I’m ambivalent. These are among the most beautiful bridges in Massachusetts, and I love driving over them. But the possibilities opened by starting anew are intriguing.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2019, 02:16:42 PM »

Build the tunnel. :D
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 04:00:50 PM »

Could this mean that there may be a Cape Cod Canal Bridges/Tunnels Meet in the distant future?
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 05:30:03 PM »

Could this mean that there may be a Cape Cod Canal Bridges/Tunnels Meet in the distant future?
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2019, 06:11:47 PM »

Wish it would include a limited access US 6 bypass between MA 25 and MA 3.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 07:52:47 AM »

I’m ambivalent. These are among the most beautiful bridges in Massachusetts, and I love driving over them. But the possibilities opened by starting anew are intriguing.
The problem is that when they were built, they connected to surface streets (via rotaries) on all ends with far lower traffic needs.  Now, 3 of those 4 ends connect directly to freeways (the rotary on the south end of the Bourne is the last original rotary left), and the bridges have become a public safety hazard for the reasons stated in the article.

8 total lanes are needed (2 travel lanes, 1 aux lane, 1 shoulder/breakdown lane - per side).  And the Cape Cod NIMBYs are already complaining in the comments.

I say meet the NIMBYs halfway, and make the new bridges at least RESEMBLE the old ones...just wider.  That way the Canal retains the aesthetics it's had for the last 80+ years.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 07:56:35 AM by DJ Particle »
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 07:00:53 PM »

It will be bridges only.  No way will you get any new highway construction.  There would be too great a disruption to wildlife habitats. What I wish they would do is extend I-195 to MA 3 as an additional route to Plymouth.  I would like to see the new bridges designed with a character similar to the current ones and possibly with a but more clearence so taller cruise ships could get underneath. And yes, cruise ships do use the Canal.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2019, 07:20:16 PM »

What I wish they would do is extend I-195 to MA 3 as an additional route to Plymouth.

That would be nice... then there would be an all-highway route from New York to the Cape, which there isn't at present.  You'd think those who live in the Buzzards Bay area would be all for a bypass to take that thru traffic off of Scenic Highway. 
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2019, 11:58:45 PM »

To be fair, all routes through the Cape are locked up in summer. I-195 will just speed people faster into the bottlenecks of 6/6A.

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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2019, 08:25:47 AM »

These bridges sound fishy.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2019, 10:25:30 AM »


8 total lanes are needed (2 travel lanes, 1 aux lane, 1 shoulder/breakdown lane - per side).  And the Cape Cod NIMBYs are already complaining in the comments.

I say meet the NIMBYs halfway, and make the new bridges at least RESEMBLE the old ones...just wider.  That way the Canal retains the aesthetics it's had for the last 80+ years.

I wonder if a path in the replacement bridge for pedestrians and cyclists might calm a bit the nimbys? The long awaited A-25 bridge between Montreal and Laval was finally built after years of opposition with the inclusion of a bike path.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2019, 11:11:52 AM »

To be fair, all routes through the Cape are locked up in summer. I-195 will just speed people faster into the bottlenecks of 6/6A.
But it could be useful if there's a major accident in between it and the bridges. And it would be an additional evacuation route for the South Coast. Plus, if you wanted to, say, go from Plymouth to New Bedford you wouldn't have to jog southeast to Bourne.
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Re: New Cape Cod Canal bridges
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2019, 04:48:08 PM »

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I wonder if a path in the replacement bridge for pedestrians and cyclists might calm a bit the nimbys?

Moot point.  A separate (and wider) bike/ped path is already proposed for both bridges.
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