I-895 (Baltimore Harbor Tunnel Thruway)

[hwyfan]

Maine and Massachusetts fall into the same category as the early turnpike‑era toll roads: they were financed and built before the 1956 Interstate Act created the 90:10 program. The Maine Turnpike opened in 1947 and the Mass Pike began construction in 1955, so neither could have used Interstate construction funds. Both were toll‑authority bond projects later designated as Interstates once they met standards. That's the same logic that applies to Maryland's JFK Highway and almost certainly to the Delaware Turnpike: if a facility opened as a toll road, it wasn't built with 90:10 Interstate money.

I was referencing the interchanges.  Note that Maine and Massachusetts don't have Breezewoods.  I suppose I shouldn't be surprised - after all, I don't think I've ever seen you not ignore something that you can't argue against.  Alas, I don't remember where I saw the forum post mentioning the states that would have been required to de-toll once the bonds were paid off per federal law if they hadn't gotten Congress to repeal that requirement, and given that you're you, I can't say I'm particularly motivated, either.

Hardly anybody has "Breezwoods" outside of PA. Frankly I am confused about what actually you are trying to say. I thought you were saying that some tollroads were built with federal funds, and you mentioned four states, so I replied to that.

I also did not know of any federal legislation requiring de-tolling of turnpikes.

I can think of a former example of other indirect connections between a toll road and an unrolled interstate outside of Pennsylvania.   The former indirect connection between the New York State Thruway (Interstate 87) and Interstate 84 near Beacon was one such. situation. 

[roadman65]

Maine and Massachusetts fall into the same category as the early turnpike‑era toll roads: they were financed and built before the 1956 Interstate Act created the 90:10 program. The Maine Turnpike opened in 1947 and the Mass Pike began construction in 1955, so neither could have used Interstate construction funds. Both were toll‑authority bond projects later designated as Interstates once they met standards. That's the same logic that applies to Maryland's JFK Highway and almost certainly to the Delaware Turnpike: if a facility opened as a toll road, it wasn't built with 90:10 Interstate money.

I was referencing the interchanges.  Note that Maine and Massachusetts don't have Breezewoods.  I suppose I shouldn't be surprised - after all, I don't think I've ever seen you not ignore something that you can't argue against.  Alas, I don't remember where I saw the forum post mentioning the states that would have been required to de-toll once the bonds were paid off per federal law if they hadn't gotten Congress to repeal that requirement, and given that you're you, I can't say I'm particularly motivated, either.

Hardly anybody has "Breezwoods" outside of PA. Frankly I am confused about what actually you are trying to say. I thought you were saying that some tollroads were built with federal funds, and you mentioned four states, so I replied to that.

I also did not know of any federal legislation requiring de-tolling of turnpikes.

I can think of a former example of other indirect connections between a toll road and an unrolled interstate outside of Pennsylvania.   The former indirect connection between the New York State Thruway (Interstate 87) and Interstate 84 near Beacon was one such. situation. 

Ohio used to have them along its turnpike.  I know I-75 at I-80/90 used to be one and I believe at I-77 was another.

NJ 42 to the NJ Turnpike using NJ 168 is still another in Bellmawr, NJ.