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Roads/Highways referred to by a name/number other that what is signed

Started by TEG24601, January 24, 2015, 11:48:08 AM

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kphoger

Probably. Also of note is that I-135 through Wichita, or sometimes just the elevated portion, is referred to by most locals as "The Canal Route". Not a single highway sign refers to it as such, but spoken directing are invariably given with that name.

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lordsutch

Memphis used to have a very odd example: TN 300 (the little stub freeway from I-40 ex 240 to US 51) was fairly frequently referred to by radio reporters as the "101 connector." How they came up with that name is anyone's guess. And, of course, the I-40 and I-55 bridges are almost invariably "the new bridge" and "the old bridge," actual names be damned.

In a similar vein to the Atlanta "Perimeter," the I-75/85 multiplex is always "The Downtown Connector," particularly north of I-20. They're so ingrained GDOT even uses these terms (along with "Top End" as mentioned above) on its website. There's also the Athens Perimeter (GA 10 Loop), probably due to Atlanta transplants.

GDOT itself pulls a reverse version of this act by calling North Perry Parkway "Thompson Road" on its I-75 BGSes (and leaving off the US 341 bypass/GA 11 connector designation, to boot), making them the only people to call North Perry Parkway this. In fairness, it was Thompson Road before GDOT coopted it into the Perry Parkway years ago.

NE2

Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Memphis used to have a very odd example: TN 300 (the little stub freeway from I-40 ex 240 to US 51) was fairly frequently referred to by radio reporters as the "101 connector."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_Route_300
QuoteLocal media sometimes refers to this short route as the "101 Connector", its former federal aid urban designation (U-101 connector).
Sourced to http://www.worldcat.org/title/administrative-action-for-environmental-impact-section-4-f-statement-interstate-route-240-and-u-101-connector-route-federal-aid-projects-i-240-1745-i-240-1807-i-240-1162-and-u-101-11-memphis-shelby-county-tennessee-final-environmental-statement/oclc/29686162
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lordsutch

Quote from: NE2 on February 04, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_Route_300
QuoteLocal media sometimes refers to this short route as the "101 Connector", its former federal aid urban designation (U-101 connector).
Sourced to http://www.worldcat.org/title/administrative-action-for-environmental-impact-section-4-f-statement-interstate-route-240-and-u-101-connector-route-federal-aid-projects-i-240-1745-i-240-1807-i-240-1162-and-u-101-11-memphis-shelby-county-tennessee-final-environmental-statement/oclc/29686162

Ah, I'd always wondered where they came up with it, especially since you could call it the "51 connector" and it would actually make sense based on the signage. Since I doubt traffic reporters were combing the EISes, the designation must have shown up on a TDOT county or city map at some point.

codyg1985

US 31/280 in Birmingham is referred to as the "Red Mountain Expressway" even though officially it is now known as the "Elton B. Stephens Expressway."

US 231/431 through Huntsville is referred to as "The Parkway" instead of "Memorial Parkway". Sometimes, it is either "North Parkway" or "South Parkway," depending on which part of town is being referred to. Generally, anything north of I-565 is "North Parkway" and anything south is "South Parkway." Further north of Huntsville where it is just called US 231/431, locals still call it "The Parkway."

AL 255 in Huntsville used to be called "Rideout Road" but it is now called "Research Park Blvd." A lot of locals still call it "Rideout Road."

I-22 used to be known as Corridor X (technically it still is, I guess). Even though I-22 is catching on, a lot of locals still call it "Corridor X" or "The Corridor." With the accents in the area, it can be pronounced "Quarter X" or "Corr-durr X."
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froggie

The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.

kphoger

Quote from: roadfro on January 24, 2015, 02:44:07 PM
Las Vegas, Nevada:  It's "Las Vegas Blvd" on signs, but commonly referred to as "The Strip" (and sometimes referred to as "The Boulevard").

Same with Branson, MO.  "W 76 Country Blvd" is invariably referred to as "The Strip".  I'm not aware of a single road sign referring to it as "The Strip".

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roadman65

The Beachline Expressway in Florida is called that on traffic reports.  Yes, Jeb Bush did sign the name into existence during his reign at governor as it used to be the Beeline Expressway. 

However when the name change took place most signs greened out the old name and never added the new name.  So technically the road is not signed that except in a few places, the supplemental guide on Florida's Turnpike SB for the Orlando Airport at Exit 254, the one mile guides for FL 528 on FL 417, and a brown sign on the beginning of FL 528 EB from I-4, however these are only a few places you might as well considered it a road in name and legislation only.
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roadman

Quote from: 1 on January 24, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
MA 128 :)

Only for a few miles. The rest of the corridor is signed as both 95 and 128.
Not quite. Those "few miles" of I-93 between Canton and Braintree are no longer part of 128 - the 128 designation between these points was officially discontinued in 1989.
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roadman

Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 25, 2015, 11:10:59 PM
Here we have the Southeast Expressway, unsigned as such but universally understood.  But no talk of the Northeast, Northwest, or Northern Expressways, which are called by their numbers (1, 2, 93).

most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the expressway".
As do most of the Boston traffic reporters as well.
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PHLBOS

Quote from: roadman on February 06, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 24, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
MA 128 :)

Only for a few miles. The rest of the corridor is signed as both 95 and 128.
Not quite. Those "few miles" of I-93 between Canton and Braintree are no longer part of 128 - the 128 designation between these points was officially discontinued in 1989.
While true (and I agree with the reasoning), such hasn't stopped reporters, locals and the like from still referring to that I-93 stretch as Route 128 along with its older/obsolete direction cardinals.
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Bickendan

Quote from: froggie on February 05, 2015, 08:55:48 AM
The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.

Wasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?

kphoger

Quote from: Bickendan on February 06, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
Quote from: froggie on February 05, 2015, 08:55:48 AM
The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.

Wasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?

You know...not being from Minnesota, I just assumed "Crosstown" was a common name for the highway; thinking about it more, I guess I just assumed that because Google Maps labels it as such.

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bzakharin

Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?

froggie

QuoteWasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?

MnDOT used the term for the interchange rebuild due to local familiarity, but 62 hasn't officially been named the Crosstown since 1988.

PHLBOS

Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that there was once old Schuylkill Expressway signage that referred to I-76 as such.  The last remaining signs, likely dating back to the 50s when the Expressway first opened were taken down sometime in the 2000s.

OTOH, the Vine Expressway; I don't believe was ever signed as such.  Probably because the eastern half of it (PA 611 to I-95) didn't become reality until 1991.
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slorydn1

This is a relatively recent phenomenon around here, since the new US-17 freeway way built from the Jones County line to US-70 here in New Bern.

Officially, mainline US-17 is routed over it to US-70 at it's Exit 410, where they then run concurrently east up to US-70's Exit 417A on the Freedom Memorial Bridge (we call it "The Twin Spans") where US-17 splits off  and then runs across the Neuse River Bridge (we call it the Bridgeton Bridge). Yet we locals refer to the new freeway as the "Bypass" or the "17 Bypass" (not to be confused with the real "17 Bypass" further north around Vanceboro, lol).

The section that had been US-17 since, like, forever, from the Jones County line, running NE up past Rhems and River Bend, and on into New Bern along M L King Kr Blvd past the mall and Wal-Mart to US-70 at it's Exit 414 is now officially signed as US-17 Business. It has always been referred to as "17 South" and even 2+ years since the realignment we still refer to that road as "17 South", even those of us in the public safety community. In fact, if someone mentions "17 Business" with no other background info all eyes and minds are focused on Main St in Vanceboro, not MLK in New Bern.

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odditude

Quote from: PHLBOS on February 06, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that there was once old Schuylkill Expressway signage that referred to I-76 as such.  The last remaining signs, likely dating back to the 50s when the Expressway first opened were taken down sometime in the 2000s.

OTOH, the Vine Expressway; I don't believe was ever signed as such.  Probably because the eastern half of it (PA 611 to I-95) didn't become reality until 1991.
I've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK. I've never seen a Vine Expressway sign.

roadman65

If New York City changes all their old Route Number/ Road name on the same line to just route number only.  Then all the expressways that New Yorkers know by name, will eventually be that.

One thing I have to give credit though is the fact that NYCDOT still is keeping "Eastern Long Island" for the EB LIE guides as they have had for ages, however to please the feds they co sign it with "Riverhead."

I am also amazed that "Jersey City" got removed on I-278 on Staten Island for NY 440 N Bound and went back to the "Bayonne Br."  That was just added to the list a short time before the newer signs were added as well.
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PHLBOS

Quote from: odditude on February 07, 2015, 11:50:53 AMI've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK.
Those Delaware Expressway signs (with I-95 shields on them) are in Northeast Philly and date back to when I-95 was first built and a handful of them are still around.

As far as signs that actually have the words Schuylkill Expressway on them; I know for a fact that there no BGS' at Girard Ave. (US 13/30) near the zoo that list such.  MLK doesn't even connect to I-76 so one is not likely to see any expressway signs whatsoever along that road.  If there's a sign that does indeed mention the Schuylkill Expressway by name on it; it's probably on a small sign of sorts.

The last BGS' listing Schuylkill Expressway on them I'm aware of were (past tense intentional since the signs are no gone) located at the PA 291/Oregon Ave. interchange (Exits 347A-B) in South Philly.
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kphoger

It seems to me that a lot of these posts (my own included) are about numbered routes going by a certain name.  Some have been about numbered routes going by another number or named routes going by a number, both of which are usually due to decommissioned routes or what have you.  But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
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Male pronouns, please.

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Bitmapped

In West Virginia, US 219/US 250/WV 55/WV 92 between Elkins and Beverly is officially named Beverly Pike but is generally called the "Beverly 5-Lane" by locals.

TheStranger

Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 04:22:25 PM
But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?

"Avenue of the Americas" never being called that in Manhattan (though the original name, 6th Avenue, IS signed for the most part).

Signed freeway names in SF that are not used by the public at all include "John F. Foran Freeway" for 280 from Route 1 to 5th Street (Southern Freeway) and "James Lick Freeway" for 101 south of the Central Freeway (which has always been known by its original moniker, the Bayshore Freeway).

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bing101

Sacramento has 2 odd freeways known by a different number Capital City Freeway I-305 is hidden but is known as Business 80 and US-50.


Business 80 at CA-99 in Midtown Sacramento is really Hidden CA-51.




hotdogPi

Does "the next left", "the next right", or anything similar count as a different name? (Only in places where it would be common, like a short concurrency. Example: MA 125 at MA 114.)
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