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Multiple Business routes in one city

Started by SD Mapman, February 14, 2015, 12:41:14 AM

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Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 19, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
Quote from: theline on June 19, 2015, 06:15:16 PM
Vincennes still has a BR 41: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I'm not familiar with any others. What were you thinking of, Avalanchez?
Princeton
Kentland
Morroco?
Terre Haute
Evansville

I'm not aware of business routes in Evansville or Terre Haute. The US 41 main line passes right through the business district of Terre Haute. In Evansville, it does bypass downtown. If it ever had a designated BR there, it is long gone. I've never seen a BR in Princeton either.

I visited Kentland several times in the '70s and don't recall any business route. I've not been to Morocco.


Avalanchez71

I know I saw the business routes in Princeton and somewhere up north up to I think the 90s.  I know the Princeton one seemed to be around to the early 2000s I believe.  The Evansville one I think was early 90s maybe late 80s.

bugo

If the Hot Springs bypass (US 70 and US 270) is ever complete to the AR 5/7 intersection then that would give Hot Springs 3 business routes.

xcellntbuy

I found a group of Business US routes in Eatonton, GA, Business US 129 and 441 along with Business GA 44.

bing101

#54
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_275


Now only Business loop 80 Exists and shares the route with US-50, CA-51 and I-305.


http://www.interstate-guide.com/business-routes/bus80.html




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Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]
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Quote from: NE2 on June 23, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]

I agree with NE2.

I believe you mis-interpreted the Wikipedia article on CA-275.  While CA-275 is a spur off of Business 80, it was never signed with a green Interstate shield which is what you implied when you said "Business Spur 80".
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Greenwood, MS used to have Bus US 82/ Bus US 49E / Bus MS 7 running concurrent.
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Aguadilla, Puerto Rico has two "Ramal" routes, PR 2R and PR 110R, which are essentially equivalent to business routes used stateside.

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Quote from: DandyDan on February 16, 2015, 07:40:48 AM
Iowa has Business US 75 and Business US 20 in Sioux City.  I thought Fort Dodge also had its own Business US 20 as well as Business US 169, but I thought one of them went off the books at some point.

They're both still around. Business US 169 recently went from state to local control, but it still appears on the state transportation map. Business US 20 was already under local control for the most part.

In addition to them and Ottumwa, Mount Pleasant has Business US 34 and Business US 218, which are both sparsely signed. Also, Clarinda has Business US 71 and Business IA 2.

Then there is Clear Lake, which has both Business Loop I-35 and Business US 18 within the city limits, but both end at the same interchange with I-35. Business Loop I-35 runs along US 18 and city streets in Clear Lake, and Business US 18 follows IA 122 and US 65 mostly in Mason City.
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Quote from: xcellntbuy on June 23, 2015, 06:15:33 PM
I found a group of Business US routes in Eatonton, GA, Business US 129 and 441 along with Business GA 44.

Business US 19 and US 41 do the same thing in Griffin, except that there is no Business GA 3 along for the ride - they instead use the mainlines of GA 92, GA 16, and GA 155.

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Quote from: froggie on June 20, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: TakumiSuffolk, VA has at least 3. US 13, 58, and 460, and maybe VA 32. Posting exists for the latter but I don't know if it's an official designation.

It's not.  Officially, vanilla VA 32 still goes through downtown Suffolk.

Quote from: txstateendsI have noticed a couple of business routes where only 1 of the 2 main route designations is represented in town on the BUS signage.

Washington, VA has this...though BUS 522 exists, only BUS 211 is signed.


Bedford, VA is another weird example.  US 460 and VA 122 definitely have business routes, but I am unsure about US 221 (I do not remember an actual business banner in the town).

EDIT: VDOT's traffic log from last year does not include a business route for US 221.  However, the way I remember it being posted decently along the US 460 and VA 122 bypasses shows to me that Bedford at least wishes it did.
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Quote from: cl94 on June 19, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Business routes in New York are a rare occurrence. No business interstates, one business US route (BR US 62), and I don't know of any business SRs. Route designations typically run along major streets with few freeway bypasses. In spots where a bannered designation could be used, a suffix or three digit number is typically used instead. As such, no cities have more than one signed BR, but there are places with multiple state routes that act as BRs.

There is a Business NY52 in Beacon.

Additionally, the old alignment of US219 near Salamanca is signed as Business US219.
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Fairly common in Virginia. Gate City, for instance, signs business routes for US 23, US 58 and US 421. The old route from Norton to Big Stone Gap is signed both Business US 23 and Business Alternate US 58.
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intelati49

Joplin, MO US71/BL49, BL44

Springfield, MO US65, BL44...

A part of me wants to say Columbia also has two...

JMAN_WiS&S

Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)
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Quote from: myosh_tino on June 23, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: NE2 on June 23, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]

I agree with NE2.

I believe you mis-interpreted the Wikipedia article on CA-275.  While CA-275 is a spur off of Business 80, it was never signed with a green Interstate shield which is what you implied when you said "Business Spur 80".

Indeed CA 275 was not Business Spur 80. It was an unsigned state route with a freeway component that was later dismantled in favor of today's Tower Gateway. However, for what it's worth, I've identified several sources indicating that there was a predecessor Business 80 in West Sacramento that followed West Capitol Ave between the current 80/Bus 80 split and the approach to the Tower Bridge. The first evidence I found was a Gousha oil company map of Sacramento from the late 1960s showing Business US 40 existing on West Capitol Ave during the time period between the original construction of the east-west freeway through West Sacramento (initially signed as US 40-99W in the 1960s) and once Interstate 80 was routed along the freeway. Once I-80 was in place and US 40 was phased out, I found a 1970s era AAA map of Sacramento showing what appeared to be business route for I-80 on West Capitol Ave. However, I couldn't figure out if it was ever signed or whether it was a business "loop" or "spur." The business route did not appear to cross the Sacramento River nor enter downtown Sacramento. Jerry Mullady, who used to provide me with commentary and feedback on various old business routes in Northern California, advised me in 1999 that it was signed as a business spur. He is also the one who first told me that CA 275 was not signed (which I later verified for myself). However, I have no photographic evidence of whether a green business loop or spur sign was ever posted in the field on West Capitol Ave, and for sure any remnant business route signage on West Capitol Ave was gone when the Business Loop 80 Freeway (Capital City Freeway) was signed in 1982. California is notoriously poor at signing business routes, and if the local jurisdiction had control of signs, it's anyone's guess as to how long they lasted in the field, if at all.
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Quote from: JMAN12343610 on July 05, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)

Business 12 has been decommissioned in Eau Claire for years

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Quote from: peterj920 on August 11, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: JMAN12343610 on July 05, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)

Business 12 has been decommissioned in Eau Claire for years
Oh. Google maps still shows the western part of it in the city as BUS 12. And I could have sworn I've seen business 12 signs on Bus 53/Hastings way before.
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Quote from: intelati49 on June 25, 2015, 02:45:29 PM
Joplin, MO US71/BL49, BL44

Springfield, MO US65, BL44...

A part of me wants to say Columbia also has two...

There have been 2 different Business 71's in Joplin, plus a Business US 66 at one time.

Springfield had Business 66, Business 166 at one time. Business 65 has had 2 alignments.
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