New York

[Rothman]

Don't know if this was posted before, but last month NYSDOT corrected a roadway collapse within 34 hours on the Saw Mill (don't have time to clip the URL):

https://www.dot.ny.gov/news/press-releases/2025/2025-09-08#:~:text=Statement%20From%20NYSDOT%20Region%208%20Acting%20Director%20Jim%20Rusak&text=Working%20through%20the%20night%2C%20our,artery%20as%20quickly%20as%20possible.&text=It%20is%20the%20mission%20of,the%20free%20511NY%20mobile%20app.

[crispy93]

This traffic circle on NY 52 in East Fishkill opened in 2023, but the signs don't look NYSDOT. They don't have z-bars, and the "divider" sign and yield signs look off: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jetCK9NyTnc7JuZo6

On the westbound approach, the "To I-84" assembly showed a left arrow rather than a "go around the traffic circle" arrow. So for a short time, it looked like the sign was telling you to go the wrong way around the island

[vdeane]

The recording of last week's public meeting regarding the I-790/Exit 31 interchange is online (note the password to use to view the recording).  Concepts start 15-16 minutes in.  There are more concepts than depicted in the NYSAMPO presentation I linked earlier.

https://exit31pelstudy.org/get-involved

[webny99]

The recording of last week's public meeting regarding the I-790/Exit 31 interchange is online (note the password to use to view the recording).  Concepts start 15-16 minutes in.  There are more concepts than depicted in the NYSAMPO presentation I linked earlier.

https://exit31pelstudy.org/get-involved

Thanks - I'd signed up for email updates but had forgotten this would be available by now. I see they've expanded the boundary of the study area, which is GREAT news. Even better, a number of the alternatives have slip ramps to/from the Thruway west of the Marcy-SUNY Pkwy interchange.

Here is the full list of the 12 alternatives:
A: No-Build
B: Minor streetscape and signage improvements
C-1: Remove Exit 31 ramps west of Genesee St and replace them with an at-grade
C-2: Create a new S-shaped ramp from existing Thruway Exit 31 ramps to I-790 and realign River Rd.
D-1: Additional Thruway interchange at NY 5/8/12 - this appears to primarily provide direct access to/from the north with no direct access to I-790.
D-2: Additional Thruway interchange at the NY 49 split - frankly it's hard to interpret from the visual, but per the presentation "the new interchange would provide direct connections between I-90 and Marcy and reduce the amount of traffic traveling through the I-90 Exit 31 ramps and surrounding local roadways"
E-1: Removal of existing Exit 31 and new Thruway Interchange at NY 5/8/12 as described in D-1.
E-2: Removal of existing Exit 31 and new Thruway Interchange at NY 49 split as described in D-2.
F-1: Removal of existing Exit 31 with full diamond interchanges at both Leland Ave and Genesee St; Thruway entrance ramps east of Leland to/from the east and west of Marcy-Suny Pkwy to/from the west.
F-2: Same as F-1 but with frontage roads between Genesee St and Leland instead of tight diamond ramps.
G: Removal of existing Exit 31 with new eastbound on/off ramps to Genesee St and new westbound slip ramp to I-790 and Thruway slip ramps to/from the west beyond Marcy-SUNY Pkwy. Also included is an extension of I-790 to NY 5S near the Culver Ave exit.
H: Removal of exiting Exit 31 with new westbound slip ramp to I-790 but no access to Genesee St (?) and Thruway slip ramps to/from the west beyond Marcy-SUNY Pkwy. Also included is an extension of I-790 along the Canal to NY 5S near the Dyke Rd exit.

The Genesee St bridge over the Canal would also be replaced with most of the alternatives.

My overall preference is F-1, though F-2 would be great as well. I'm really surprised by the inclusion of the alternatives that extend I-790 to what would be more or less a U-shape with I-90 threaded through it, but I think both of those alternatives could also work well (though probably unlikely due to higher cost).

Alternative B isn't much of an upgrade, C1 would be a disappointment, C2 seems overly complex, and I tend to dismiss both E alternatives out of hand, but I'd be OK with any of the other 6 options.

[D-Dey65]

I found a Wikimedia Commons image of a legal notice from the early-19th Century that may or may not describe NY 25A between Setauket and Port Jefferson;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caleb_Kinner_(1793-1875)_in_Records_of_the_Town_of_Brookhaven,_Suffolk_County,_N._Y._(1888).png

[baugh17]

My overall preference is F-1, though F-2 would be great as well.

Anything that would separate local and expressway/Thruway traffic works for me.

F-2 would be my preferred choice as I feel Leland Ave. and North Genesee St. are too close to each other to have two separate diamond interchanges.  Perhaps combine it with elements of options G or H (Moreso the former).  I am intrigued with them as NY 5S is a part of my daily commute and I would love the idea of having a continuous four lane limited access highway route from Rome to Ilion.  I do think extending I-790 to Dyke Rd. would be a bit of a stretch (What's wrong with NY 5S from Culver to Dyke as it is?).

[vdeane]

Materials from the October open house regarding I-787 have been posted online.  Not much change to the concepts, but there are additional details on the bike/ped connectivity and concepts like improving Watervliet's waterfront access, restoring Lock 1, and the Menands inner harbor.  There's also additional schedule information for where we go from here; the DEIS is currently planned for 2028.

https://webapps.dot.ny.gov/final-pel-report-and-pre-eis-materials

[The Ghostbuster]

Hopefully, they choose one of the freeway alternatives. Capping the freeway, as also proposed, should help reconnect the city with the waterfront.

[Rothman]

Hopefully, they choose one of the freeway alternatives. Capping the freeway, as also proposed, should help reconnect the city with the waterfront.

Somebody needs to look up the purpose of a PEL...

And I'm going to stop there.

(personal opinion emphasized)

[vdeane]

I don't recall if we've discussed the I-890 PEL study around exit 4, but some concepts have been posted to the study website:

https://www.schenectadycountyny.gov/engineering-public-works/exit-4c

https://www.schenectadycountyny.gov/sites/default/files/Engineering%20and%20Highway/pel_cph_concept_Combined_05212025.pdf

[Roadgeek Adam]

Caps are better. It preserves the freeway and reconnects the neighbourhood. I'm pissed the 33 one got freaking stopped by NIMBYs who just wanna tear out 33 period.

[dantheman]

I don't recall if we've discussed the I-890 PEL study around exit 4, but some concepts have been posted to the study website:

https://www.schenectadycountyny.gov/engineering-public-works/exit-4c

https://www.schenectadycountyny.gov/sites/default/files/Engineering%20and%20Highway/pel_cph_concept_Combined_05212025.pdf

It feels like the dust just settled on the last time this junction got reconfigured, to go from two westbound-to-eastbound underpasses on the west side of the "donut" to one. While I like the idea of moving Scotia-to-890 traffic as far from downtown as possible, it's baffling to me that they didn't do this all as one project.

Concept 4 seems silly to me. It introduces a very short weave area on the WB Loop Road between the 890 WB offramp and the roundabout, when the last reconfiguration in the 2010s was done specifically to reduce weaving. And what exactly is the point of the full roundabout at WB Loop Road and the NY 5 connector? There are literally zero traffic movements that would require the southern one-lane piece of it, unless WB Loop Road-to-NY 5 traffic is directed to stay in the left lane and go 360 degrees around the circle rather than weave to the right after the 890 offramp merges in. Which would be a whole different type of silly. The modified roundabout or stoplight in the insets make a lot more sense.

Concepts 5 and 5A could open up a whole bunch of land for SUNY Schenectady expansion (the Albany-area native in me still thinks it's called SCCC....)

[Mergingtraffic]

On I-287 hheading towards Rye, there is a new huge I-684 1 Mile advance sign that I never saw before.  All the non-reflective button copy signs are still there on the mainline.  Makes you wonder who owns those signs.  The Exit 9S-N Hutch advance sign on the I-287 WB service road (Westchester Ave) is owned by the county.  It says "Property of Westchester County" at the bottom

[webny99]

An apparent accident has caused a closure of NY 390 SB between Lexington and I-490:
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/i-390-s-closed-off-due-to-accident-between-lyell-and-lexington/

Edit: article has been updated with information about this tragic incident in which a shoplifter was struck and killed attempting to cross 390.

This is creating some unusual traffic patterns because the loop ramp from NY 31 westbound to 390 SB is closed, but the ramp from NY 31 eastbound is open. Entering there provides full access to the I-490 interchange so I would imagine there is a significant volume of traffic illegally turning left or U-turning to access the eastbound on ramp. In addition, the Canal Landing area is a mess due to heavy traffic using Long Pond Rd to access NY 31 eastbound.

[webny99]

I-190 SB is closed at Exit 22 after a shipping container struck the underside of the bridge, causing structural damage. Fortunately it's a very short detour to re-enter at the Exit 22 on-ramp but is still causing minor delays.

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/portion-of-i-190-south-in-the-vicinity-of-bridge-over-niagara-falls-blvd-to-be-closed-until-further-notice

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

[Roadgeek Adam]

Jughandles are not exclusive to Jersey. PA 61 has them (including at PA 895).

Fully biased because I grew up in NJ, but I love jughandles and find them far safer than some preferred options (Michigan left being my primary example of a dangerous left).

[dgolub]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

Yes, the only one in Westchester County, to the best of my knowledge.  I covered as part of the 2025 Lower Hudson Valley Road Meet earlier this year.

[cockroachking]

There are a few on NY-100 (Central Park Ave) as well.

[D-Dey65]

I just found an image of the construction of Exit 65 on the Long Island Expressway in Medford;
https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/medford-n-y-on-june-5-the-long-island-expressway-news-photo/1405413637
Ladies and Gentlemen, that image was reversed. It has the rest areas near the Bellport Station Road bridge in the wrong locations, Eagle Estates on the south side of the interchange when it should be on the north and the Long Island Avenue interchange on the north side of the interchange when it should be on the south.

[baugh17]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

Yes, the only one in Westchester County, to the best of my knowledge.  I covered as part of the 2025 Lower Hudson Valley Road Meet earlier this year.

Adding to the list...

NY 77 at the entrance to Darien Lake Amusement Park
NY 2 at the entrance to Grafton Lakes State Park

[D-Dey65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

Yes, the only one in Westchester County, to the best of my knowledge.  I covered as part of the 2025 Lower Hudson Valley Road Meet earlier this year.

Adding to the list...

NY 77 at the entrance to Darien Lake Amusement Park
NY 2 at the entrance to Grafton Lakes State Park

I thought there were a bunch of them on NY 100 between the New York State Thruway and White Plains.

[crispy93]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

Yes, the only one in Westchester County, to the best of my knowledge.  I covered as part of the 2025 Lower Hudson Valley Road Meet earlier this year.

Adding to the list...

NY 77 at the entrance to Darien Lake Amusement Park
NY 2 at the entrance to Grafton Lakes State Park

NY 55 in Poughkeepsie @ Burnett Blvd (in front of DOT Region 8 offices). Also at least one of the signalized intersections on the Saw Mill in lower Westchester

[cockroachking]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yWw1MPjqCCYRyau7?g_st=ac

A New Jersey Jughandle in the Empire State?

Yes, the only one in Westchester County, to the best of my knowledge.  I covered as part of the 2025 Lower Hudson Valley Road Meet earlier this year.

Adding to the list...

NY 77 at the entrance to Darien Lake Amusement Park
NY 2 at the entrance to Grafton Lakes State Park

NY 55 in Poughkeepsie @ Burnett Blvd (in front of DOT Region 8 offices). Also at least one of the signalized intersections on the Saw Mill in lower Westchester

That would be Exit 9 (Executive Blvd).

I thought there were a bunch of them on NY 100 between the New York State Thruway and White Plains.

See Reply #7543

[D-Dey65]

[SNIP]

I thought there were a bunch of them on NY 100 between the New York State Thruway and White Plains.

See Reply #7543

Ooh, I missed that one.