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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 06:09:10 PM »

No mention of tolls?
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM »

No mention of tolls?

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 06:23:40 PM »

No mention of tolls?

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Supposedly $1.50

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150427/news/150428852/

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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.

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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2015, 02:15:26 PM »

they can EOE tolling or something like 407 ERT
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2015, 06:02:21 PM »

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

Since when did I-55 west/south of I-294, I-57, IL 394, and the sections of I-80 that are separate from I-294 get tolled?
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2015, 08:31:39 PM »

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

Since when did I-55 west/south of I-294, I-57, IL 394, and the sections of I-80 that are separate from I-294 get tolled?

55 southwest of 80 and 57 south of 80 are 4 lane highways. The ones I mentioned are carry much more traffic.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2015, 04:00:51 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2015, 04:19:34 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

Finally someone who gets it!  Illinois should be working to decrease the amount of tolled miles of roadway in Illinois, not increase it.  Wisconsin does not have ONE toll and yet has enough money to do far more projects than IDOT does. 
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2015, 04:20:23 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.

How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2015, 05:12:44 PM »

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How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?

Good idea, but gas tax shouldn't go towards it, hence stupid.

Gas tax should go towards roads, not beautification projects, bike paths, public transportation, etc. ROADS
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM »

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans.
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.

The Illinois Constitution needs to be COMPLETELY repealed and replaced with a brand new one that removes all the protections for pensions, imposes term limits for Governor (two terms for life, modeled after the US presidential term limit amendment), term limits for the state legislature, redistricting reform (independent redistricting commission), etc.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs). Why even have a state transportation department if they can't rebuild/expand Interstates and other highways? Go look at IDOT's website and see how many projects are stuck in Phase I because there is no money to advance them. By contrast, go to WisDOT's website and see how many projects that are under construction or moving forward in the study phase because of good funding. It is night and day. WisDOT is not perfect, but they are lightyears ahead of IDOT. They have a smaller population and yet, they can move forward with rebuilding/widening I-39/90 and I-94 between the state line and Madison and Milwaukee respectively (both $1 billion+ projects), plus build new four lane highways along WIS 26, 29, US 151, etc. Meanwhile, IDOT cannot do anything to rebuild/widen I-55 between downtown Chicago and Joliet or build the EOWA or IL-53 extension because it's too expensive.

IDOT needs new leadership that is competent and innovative, and we need to create a state transportation fund where gas tax money goes to that can only be used for transportation purposes (with severe punishments for any attempts to raid the fund), then increase the gas tax to fund a major capital program. And they need to keep their website updated for pete's sake! There are many projects on there that have been completed and yet they are still listed as under construction. Plus, there is a ton of outdated data.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2015, 05:25:15 PM »

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How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?

Good idea, but gas tax shouldn't go towards it, hence stupid.

Gas tax should go towards roads, not beautification projects, bike paths, public transportation, etc. ROADS

Local municipalities (county level and below) should pay for bike paths if they want them.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2015, 05:56:17 PM »


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The Illinois Constitution needs to be COMPLETELY repealed and replaced with a brand new one that removes all the protections for pensions, imposes term limits for Governor (two terms for life, modeled after the US presidential term limit amendment), term limits for the state legislature, redistricting reform (independent redistricting commission), etc.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs). Why even have a state transportation department if they can't rebuild/expand Interstates and other highways? Go look at IDOT's website and see how many projects are stuck in Phase I because there is no money to advance them. By contrast, go to WisDOT's website and see how many projects that are under construction or moving forward in the study phase because of good funding. It is night and day. WisDOT is not perfect, but they are lightyears ahead of IDOT. They have a smaller population and yet, they can move forward with rebuilding/widening I-39/90 and I-94 between the state line and Madison and Milwaukee respectively (both $1 billion+ projects), plus build new four lane highways along WIS 26, 29, US 151, etc. Meanwhile, IDOT cannot do anything to rebuild/widen I-55 between downtown Chicago and Joliet or build the EOWA or IL-53 extension because it's too expensive.

IDOT needs new leadership that is competent and innovative, and we need to create a state transportation fund where gas tax money goes to that can only be used for transportation purposes (with severe punishments for any attempts to raid the fund), then increase the gas tax to fund a major capital program. And they need to keep their website updated for pete's sake! There are many projects on there that have been completed and yet they are still listed as under construction. Plus, there is a ton of outdated data.

To be fair, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan etc. don't really have a solid public transportation system like Illinois does. IDOT pays for things like rail cars for Metra, helps Union Pacific third rail from West Chicago to Geneva, etc. etc. Not all of IDOT's money goes back towards roads like they do in other states. IDOT also funds a terrible, terrible system called Amtrak as well.
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM »

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?
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Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2015, 06:46:28 PM »

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

My bad. They are the only exception. If you want to get to downtown without paying tolls, you can, but you still only have I-355 and I-294 for suburb to suburb commutes.
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