Ohio

[Buck87]

How many traffic lights are there currently on US 23 in Ohio? Like from Portsmouth to Columbus, and Columbus to Toledo? I'd think a corridor like US 23 though Ohio should minimize the number of traffic lights encountered throughout the state (excluding through the city of Columbus, where such a policy would be impossible to implement).

Right, with the reason being that there are freeways in place to bypass all those lights. So it should also be noted that some of the lights in Hot Rod's list above are similarly bypassed:

Ohio River to Lucasville - bypassed by the newly completed OH 823. That leaves roughly 8 traffic lights left between Portsmouth and Chillicothe, all in Waverly.
Carey to Toledo - bypassed by OH 15 and I-75, which is clearly intended to handle Toledo-Columbus traffic, and includes a recent upgrade to 6 lanes on 75 between Findlay and Toledo and a currently underway upgrade to the OH 15/I-75 interchange.

Removing those from the equation, that brings the list to 60 traffic lights that are the problem, with half of those coming in one 12 mile stretch between US 42 and I-270, and can be expanded to say that 38 of them are in one 24 mile stretch between I-270 and OH 229 near Waldo.

[seicer]

To note, those traffic lights between I-270 and OH 823 are spaced over a roughly 2.5-hour drive. The majority are in Circleville and Waverly.

[cl94]

Has there been any serious talk of an upgraded connection along the US 36 corridor to bypass the Columbus-Delaware mess? I remember that one of the rough proposals for I-73 had that breaking off of 71 north of US 36 and hitting US 23 around Delaware Lake, but that obviously never got off the ground.

Related topic: South Bloomfield. Any updates on that bypass, or has it turned into a Breezewood situation stopped by politics?

[seicer]

There is an active proposal for a S. Bloomfield bypass but it's just not in the active six-year plan. I had found plans a few years back while stalking around on their site that showed a freeway bypass to the east of the village.

[Buck87]

There is an active proposal for a S. Bloomfield bypass but it's just not in the active six-year plan. I had found plans a few years back while stalking around on their site that showed a freeway bypass to the east of the village.

Do you remember what site you were on? Was it ODOT, or something like MORC?

[renegade]

From counting on Google Earth.

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Between I-270 (North) & US 42 (southside of Delaware), 31 traffic lights

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I went through that stretch once on my motorcycle.  Because of all the reds, it took me longer to get from Delaware to I-270 than it did to get from Carey to Delaware.

[seicer]

There is an active proposal for a S. Bloomfield bypass but it's just not in the active six-year plan. I had found plans a few years back while stalking around on their site that showed a freeway bypass to the east of the village.

Do you remember what site you were on? Was it ODOT, or something like MORC?

ODOT, but I can't find the page now.

[Buck87]

Has there been any serious talk of an upgraded connection along the US 36 corridor to bypass the Columbus-Delaware mess? I remember that one of the rough proposals for I-73 had that breaking off of 71 north of US 36 and hitting US 23 around Delaware Lake, but that obviously never got off the ground.

Not really. There's a project planned to add an interchange and parkway just south of the US 36/OH 37 interchange at I-71, but that has more to do with adding capacity for local commuter traffic and access to the developments at that interchange than anything to do with US 23 corridor traffic (though it will help bypass a few lights.) Using 36/37 as a bypass still involves a section of Delaware city streets and several traffic lights on the 4 lane section, though at least there is a project planned to improve the intersection of 36 and 37 and the adjacent railroad bridge.

On a somewhat related note, last weekend I stopped at the northbound I-71 rest area between Polaris and 36/37, and noticed some yellow highlighter on a particular corridor on the Ohio map displayed in the lobby area. The corridor highlighted was OH 229/OH 61 between US 23 and I-71. Seems someone is suggesting, "Hey, looking for a way to bypass Delaware? Maybe try this route you may not have thought of." In hindsight I wish I'd have taken a pic of that.

ODOT, but I can't find the page now.

Thanks

[seicer]

Looking further, ODOT conducted a study in 2007. From this planning study:

* US 23 upgraded to a freeway from Duvall Road to I-270, with interchanges at SR 317, Ashville Pike Extension, and Duvall Road (SR 317 Access Management Study recommendation).
* Upgrading of US 23 to a six-lane facility within the study area.
* There is a study for a S. Bloomfield bypass underway.

From this archived white paper:
"Besides the Portsmouth Bypass Project, there are two other projects in Ohio which may be eligible to use ARC funding, Waverly Bypass and South Bloomfield Bypass. These projects are not in ODOT's current 20 year construction program and there are currently no plans to advance these projects at any time in the foreseeable future."

[6a]

There is an active proposal for a S. Bloomfield bypass but it's just not in the active six-year plan. I had found plans a few years back while stalking around on their site that showed a freeway bypass to the east of the village.

Do you remember what site you were on? Was it ODOT, or something like MORC?

I ran across it on the FTP site, but that was a few years ago.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Has there been any serious talk of an upgraded connection along the US 36 corridor to bypass the Columbus-Delaware mess? I remember that one of the rough proposals for I-73 had that breaking off of 71 north of US 36 and hitting US 23 around Delaware Lake, but that obviously never got off the ground.

There hasn't been anything serious about upgrading US 36 between I-71 & Delaware since you were born.
With proposed business parks, between Alum Creek & Delaware, and whatever they are proposing for Northstar/Tanger, between I-71 and Sunbury; using US 36/Oh 37 as part of "I-73" will become moot shortly.

[sbeaver44]

I was looking back over photos of a Cleveland trip in 2014.  This was in Public Square, heading SE on Ontario.  Any idea what the upper left route might have been at one point?

[Buck87]

^ Probably OH 87

And I like that old S-EAST banner on OH 14

[thenetwork]

I was looking back over photos of a Cleveland trip in 2014.  This was in Public Square, heading SE on Ontario.  Any idea what the upper left route might have been at one point?

What is covered up is SOUTH US-21.  What's odd is that US-21 was almost certainly truncated and downgraded to OH-21 about 8 miles south along I-77 around the time  that this assembly went up in the early 80s.

[ysuindy]

The new Waterville bridge over the Maumee River opens today

https://www.toledoblade.com/local/transportation/2020/01/27/new-waterville-bridge-scheduled-to-open-following-ceremony-friday/stories/20200127104

[catch22]

The new Waterville bridge over the Maumee River opens today

https://www.toledoblade.com/local/transportation/2020/01/27/new-waterville-bridge-scheduled-to-open-following-ceremony-friday/stories/20200127104

ODOT posted this video on Twitter showing the new bridge open to traffic.

https://twitter.com/ODOT_Toledo/status/1223314267035914240

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

The actual owner of Roadfan.com emailed me last week that WEWS in Cleveland did a story on the guy who does the roadmaps for ODOT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEzWeeyXos

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

I guess ODOT and the City of Delaware will be working on the US 23 bypass this year.
https://www.delgazette.com/news/82050/city-gateway-to-receive-facelift

[Buck87]

I guess ODOT and the City of Delaware will be working on the US 23 bypass this year.
https://www.delgazette.com/news/82050/city-gateway-to-receive-facelift

Was taking a look at this area and noticed something.......didn't there used to be a one way street along the river that connected the end of the US 23 exit ramp at William St to the start of the US 23 entrance ramp on Central Ave, or am I mis-remembering that? Currently there's just a multi use trail in that 2 block corridor.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

I guess ODOT and the City of Delaware will be working on the US 23 bypass this year.
https://www.delgazette.com/news/82050/city-gateway-to-receive-facelift

Was taking a look at this area and noticed something.......didn't there used to be a one way street along the river that connected the end of the US 23 exit ramp at William St to the start of the US 23 entrance ramp on Central Ave, or am I mis-remembering that? Currently there's just a multi use trail in that 2 block corridor.

Just a bike trail for the last decade or two.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

More news from a Delaware near me.
https://www.delgazette.com/news/82372/oh-sheetz-popular-chain-eyes-delaware

[Buck87]

More news from a Delaware near me.
https://www.delgazette.com/news/82372/oh-sheetz-popular-chain-eyes-delaware

Nice. Looks like this will be the farthest to the west Sheetz has expanded.

[6a]

Franklin County went old school when replacing this pair of blades. I haven't seen the ampersand used for this road since I was a kid.

[tdindy88]

Isn't that technically the wrong name. The hyphen in the name that is typically used doesn't necessarily mean "and."

[frankenroad]

Isn't that technically the wrong name. The hyphen in the name that is typically used doesn't necessarily mean "and."

I would agree - its called Hilliard Rome Road, not Hilliard and Rome Rd.

Although often written Hilliard-Rome Rd, both Google Maps and the USPS call it Hilliard Rome Rd (with no puncuation).