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[Stephane Dumas]

Back to OH-53 interchange with Ohio turnpike, Google Streetview posted an updated view from Nov. 2021 where the roundabout begins to take shape.
https://goo.gl/maps/EuxJsPmMTV98Cb7K6

[Great Lakes Roads]

https://nbc24.com/newsletter-daily/odot-breaks-ground-on-diverging-diamond-site-at-i-475-us-20a

ODOT has broken ground on the new Diverging Diamond Interchange (DDI) on I-475 at US 20A in Maumee. Included in this project is widening five miles of I-475 to three lanes each way between Airport Highway and US 24, replacing the bridges over Moclova Road and the Norfolk Southern Railroad, and three miles of resurfacing on US 24 between I-475 and Waterville-Monclova Road interchanges.

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

Construction is going to start in July, and the completion date of this $102 million project is expected to be complete by late 2024.

[westerninterloper]

https://nbc24.com/newsletter-daily/odot-breaks-ground-on-diverging-diamond-site-at-i-475-us-20a

ODOT has broken ground on the new Diverging Diamond Interchange (DDI) on I-475 at US 20A in Maumee. Included in this project is widening five miles of I-475 to three lanes each way between Airport Highway and US 24, replacing the bridges over Moclova Road and the Norfolk Southern Railroad, and three miles of resurfacing on US 24 between I-475 and Waterville-Monclova Road interchanges.

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

Construction is going to start in July, and the completion date of this $102 million project is expected to be complete by late 2024.

That area consistently backs up with traffic - the widening and new interchange will be good for the area, home to two of the metro's Fortune 500 companies.

[The Ghostbuster]

Let's hope this thread doesn't go off the rails like the "I-475/US23 projects in Toledo" thread did. It was this very project that did that one in.

[vtk]

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

I think that quote could have used some copy editing. I had to read it a few times to get what the person was trying to say.

[westerninterloper]

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

I think that quote could have used some copy editing. I had to read it a few times to get what the person was trying to say.

It's messy but what she's saying from a very specific location-perspective is that the improvements to I-75 and I-475 to the north of the current construction in South Toledo and Rossford will seem impossible to live without once complete. But it's also something that really doesn't need to be said, and like you mentioned, could be said better.

[SkyPesos]

Found a white LED VMS, with green LEDs for the minutes (probably red when traffic gets bad, idk for sure) when driving on NB I-75 today. Thought this was unique considering the other VMS uses standard orange LEDs. Anywhere else in the state with a VMS like this?

[Bitmapped]

Found a white LED VMS, with green LEDs for the minutes (probably red when traffic gets bad, idk for sure) when driving on NB I-75 today. Thought this was unique considering the other VMS uses standard orange LEDs. Anywhere else in the state with a VMS like this?

Columbus got them in past year. I think the color of the minutes part changes depending on speed.

[The Ghostbuster]

I prefer VMSs like this one in Madison and elsewhere in Wisconsin: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0434615,-89.3655112,3a,75y,109.64h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG1dvOwp_pmd9K85ZTUrFcg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192.

[TempoNick]

Found a white LED VMS, with green LEDs for the minutes (probably red when traffic gets bad, idk for sure) when driving on NB I-75 today. Thought this was unique considering the other VMS uses standard orange LEDs. Anywhere else in the state with a VMS like this?

Columbus got them in past year. I think the color of the minutes part changes depending on speed.

I like them. Very readable. They look good.

[wanderer2575]

https://nbc24.com/newsletter-daily/odot-breaks-ground-on-diverging-diamond-site-at-i-475-us-20a

ODOT has broken ground on the new Diverging Diamond Interchange (DDI) on I-475 at US 20A in Maumee. Included in this project is widening five miles of I-475 to three lanes each way between Airport Highway and US 24, replacing the bridges over Moclova Road and the Norfolk Southern Railroad, and three miles of resurfacing on US 24 between I-475 and Waterville-Monclova Road interchanges.

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

Construction is going to start in July, and the completion date of this $102 million project is expected to be complete by late 2024.

ODOT already widened the I-475 bridges over the Ohio Turnpike/Swan Creek/Manley Road several years ago, so this must have been in the works (or at least on a wish list) for awhile.
https://goo.gl/maps/guoG5MWiTcxvPvYc8

[thenetwork]

https://nbc24.com/newsletter-daily/odot-breaks-ground-on-diverging-diamond-site-at-i-475-us-20a

ODOT has broken ground on the new Diverging Diamond Interchange (DDI) on I-475 at US 20A in Maumee. Included in this project is widening five miles of I-475 to three lanes each way between Airport Highway and US 24, replacing the bridges over Moclova Road and the Norfolk Southern Railroad, and three miles of resurfacing on US 24 between I-475 and Waterville-Monclova Road interchanges.

"Once it's done, just like I-75, just like 475 to the north and many other interstate projects around the state and the nation, once it's done, it's hard to imagine a road without those improvements so we're really trying to set this area up for success for generations to come," said Pat McColley, ODOT District 2 deputy director.

Construction is going to start in July, and the completion date of this $102 million project is expected to be complete by late 2024.

ODOT already widened the I-475 bridges over the Ohio Turnpike/Swan Creek/Manley Road several years ago, so this must have been in the works (or at least on a wish list) for awhile.
https://goo.gl/maps/guoG5MWiTcxvPvYc8

I didn't realize that they re-designed the Dussell/Salisbury exit from the original diamond interchange just to the south.  When did they do that?

[BrianP]

Depending in where you look in the vicinity, streetview shows it under construction and also complete in 2011.

[TempoNick]

This article is relevant to the US-23 discussion. The US-23 (and US-35 in Beavercreek) problems could be solved quickly and cheaply if they do here like they do in Texas.

I hope someone from ODOT pays attention.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Tex-Arcana-Why-do-Texas-freeways-have-frontage-1836385.php?fbclid=IwAR0d-gkbPjI-kjgX9afAVltL2_v_gA6TA9LDnv1TztAY_Z2gPH7yNi0H6hU
https://www.facebook.com/aaroads/posts/pfbid02iFgb5RTvM27jLhgL23YRfa7umijYmLkaWHnVYmFdjH5DfNjHWfNKfApRLXKHC139l

Tex-Arcana: Why do Texas freeways have frontage roads?
MARK BABINECK

Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle
Sep. 30, 2007

They go by many names depending on where you are. Officially they're called frontage roads, and they're a way of life along major highways across Texas, which stands alone in its steadfast devotion to them.

"That is definitely a Texas thing, and more common in Houston than anywhere else," said Ron Jackson of TexasFreeway.com, a site dedicated to the state's massive ribbons of urban pavement.

In Houston, they're best known simply as feeders. Other Texans prefer to call them access roads or service roads, but they all mean the same thing: Streets alongside freeways and highways that act as corridors of commerce and connect thoroughfares to cross streets.

Some other states utilize them regularly in heavily populated areas. Texas goes further with a network of more than 6,500 miles that extends well into the countryside, according to the state comptroller's office.

Frontage roads were the vision of Dewitt Greer, the state's chief highway engineer from 1940 to 1968. He initially wanted to cut right-of-way acquisition costs by providing landowners affected by highway expansion with access to the new road, which lowered the price.

The first freeway in Texas, the Gulf Freeway in southeast Houston, was accompanied by the first frontage roads.

Developers fell in line, realizing the value of roadside property, and the concept became the norm.

There were drawbacks, though. Frontage roads have caused many urban freeways to become signage-strewn eyesores, and some of the roads themselves became ceaselessly jammed partly because of the very development they fostered.

In June 2001, the Texas Transportation Commission decided to limit construction of new frontage roads, sparking a withering blast of criticism. Dallas' mayor at the time, Ron Kirk, called frontage roads "critical in opening up the southern part of the city to commercial development."

A year later, the commission relented and a Texas tradition – whatever you might call it – remained intact.

[tsmatt13]

Something interesting I found: a few exits in the US-20 and OH-2 concurrency near Cleveland were initially unnumbered, then temporarily numbered 191 and 193 in the mid-2010s, then the numbers were removed from the signs again. I wonder why they did this??

Sep 2011: There is a BGS, and the "Lake Ave / West Blvd" exit is unnumbered.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858223,-81.7444922,3a,65.1y,230.47h,95.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEk3OHUSCqQXmSWijpPbHwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Aug 2014: There is now an "Exit 191" tab on the sign.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858082,-81.7443903,3a,46.9y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbGG9j0uW51OYTPjbpZa76Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Oct 2015: The exit sign and tab was removed during construction.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4857823,-81.7443959,3a,75y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdVVTU_88-lqTY6Cx_KQ-IA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Sep 2021: The entire BGS setup is removed and now there are no signs left.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858537,-81.7444571,3a,63.6y,260.96h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sczks84cE8tlFAebTHT6WEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

[thenetwork]

Something interesting I found: a few exits in the US-20 and OH-2 concurrency near Cleveland were initially unnumbered, then temporarily numbered 191 and 193 in the mid-2010s, then the numbers were removed from the signs again. I wonder why they did this??

Sep 2011: There is a BGS, and the "Lake Ave / West Blvd" exit is unnumbered.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858223,-81.7444922,3a,65.1y,230.47h,95.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEk3OHUSCqQXmSWijpPbHwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Aug 2014: There is now an "Exit 191" tab on the sign.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858082,-81.7443903,3a,46.9y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbGG9j0uW51OYTPjbpZa76Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Oct 2015: The exit sign and tab was removed during construction.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4857823,-81.7443959,3a,75y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdVVTU_88-lqTY6Cx_KQ-IA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Sep 2021: The entire BGS setup is removed and now there are no signs left.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858537,-81.7444571,3a,63.6y,260.96h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sczks84cE8tlFAebTHT6WEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Visiting Cleveland from Colorado and LITERALLY drove that stretch today!!

When they downgraded much of the 55 MPH West Shoreway into the 35 MPH Edgewater Boulevard (as a former Clevelander, I have a bone to pick about this "downgrade" -- people still drive it as if it was still a freeway) it looks like ODOT pretty much turned over all control to the City of Cleveland.

The city, trying to "fool" the public that it is a boulevard and not a freeway (it still looks like the old freeway) eliminated all gantries (and exit numbers) from W. 25th/28th west to Clifton Blvd.

There are still exit numbers on what's left of the "official" West Shoreway between the Main Avenue Bridge and I-90 at Dead Man's Curve.

[PurdueBill]

Something interesting I found: a few exits in the US-20 and OH-2 concurrency near Cleveland were initially unnumbered, then temporarily numbered 191 and 193 in the mid-2010s, then the numbers were removed from the signs again. I wonder why they did this??

Sep 2011: There is a BGS, and the "Lake Ave / West Blvd" exit is unnumbered.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858223,-81.7444922,3a,65.1y,230.47h,95.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEk3OHUSCqQXmSWijpPbHwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Aug 2014: There is now an "Exit 191" tab on the sign.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858082,-81.7443903,3a,46.9y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbGG9j0uW51OYTPjbpZa76Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Oct 2015: The exit sign and tab was removed during construction.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4857823,-81.7443959,3a,75y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdVVTU_88-lqTY6Cx_KQ-IA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Sep 2021: The entire BGS setup is removed and now there are no signs left.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858537,-81.7444571,3a,63.6y,260.96h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sczks84cE8tlFAebTHT6WEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Visiting Cleveland from Colorado and LITERALLY drove that stretch today!!

When they downgraded much of the 55 MPH West Shoreway into the 35 MPH Edgewater Boulevard (as a former Clevelander, I have a bone to pick about this "downgrade" -- people still drive it as if it was still a freeway) it looks like ODOT pretty much turned over all control to the City of Cleveland.

The city, trying to "fool" the public that it is a boulevard and not a freeway (it still looks like the old freeway) eliminated all gantries (and exit numbers) from W. 25th/28th west to Clifton Blvd.

There are still exit numbers on what's left of the "official" West Shoreway between the Main Avenue Bridge and I-90 at Dead Man's Curve.

They pleasantly surprisingly left one button copy BGS; its not being an exit sign probably saved it.
https://goo.gl/maps/2YC9ngFgpim73fnL6

The signage along there now is really substandard even if the speed limit is 35. 

[thenetwork]

Something interesting I found: a few exits in the US-20 and OH-2 concurrency near Cleveland were initially unnumbered, then temporarily numbered 191 and 193 in the mid-2010s, then the numbers were removed from the signs again. I wonder why they did this??

Sep 2011: There is a BGS, and the "Lake Ave / West Blvd" exit is unnumbered.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858223,-81.7444922,3a,65.1y,230.47h,95.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEk3OHUSCqQXmSWijpPbHwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Aug 2014: There is now an "Exit 191" tab on the sign.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858082,-81.7443903,3a,46.9y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbGG9j0uW51OYTPjbpZa76Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Oct 2015: The exit sign and tab was removed during construction.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4857823,-81.7443959,3a,75y,253.35h,95.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdVVTU_88-lqTY6Cx_KQ-IA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Sep 2021: The entire BGS setup is removed and now there are no signs left.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4858537,-81.7444571,3a,63.6y,260.96h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sczks84cE8tlFAebTHT6WEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Visiting Cleveland from Colorado and LITERALLY drove that stretch today!!

When they downgraded much of the 55 MPH West Shoreway into the 35 MPH Edgewater Boulevard (as a former Clevelander, I have a bone to pick about this "downgrade" -- people still drive it as if it was still a freeway) it looks like ODOT pretty much turned over all control to the City of Cleveland.

The city, trying to "fool" the public that it is a boulevard and not a freeway (it still looks like the old freeway) eliminated all gantries (and exit numbers) from W. 25th/28th west to Clifton Blvd.

There are still exit numbers on what's left of the "official" West Shoreway between the Main Avenue Bridge and I-90 at Dead Man's Curve.

They pleasantly surprisingly left one button copy BGS; its not being an exit sign probably saved it.
https://goo.gl/maps/2YC9ngFgpim73fnL6

The signage along there now is really substandard even if the speed limit is 35. 

A lot of similarities between the Opportunity Corridor and Edgewater Parkway, except Opportunity is loaded with traffic lights.

[Harvestman]

I have traveled this part of I-71 in downtown Cincinnati more times than I can count, and this sign has always bugged me.  Never took a picture until now.  What is blanked out on the lower part of this sign for I-471?

[plain]

I have traveled this part of I-71 in downtown Cincinnati more times than I can count, and this sign has always bugged me.  Never took a picture until now.  What is blanked out on the lower part of this sign for I-471?

Looks kinda slim to be another control city. Maybe EXIT ONLY or something?

[wriddle082]

I have traveled this part of I-71 in downtown Cincinnati more times than I can count, and this sign has always bugged me.  Never took a picture until now.  What is blanked out on the lower part of this sign for I-471?

Looks kinda slim to be another control city. Maybe EXIT ONLY or something?

Might be something along the lines of "TRUCKS MUST EXIT"  to keep trucks off of Ft. Washington Way or the Brent Spence Bridge during times of construction or "distress"  on either.

[seicer]

I think it was "Exit Only". I vaguely remember seeing that uncovered for a brief period.

[thenetwork]

I think it was "Exit Only". I vaguely remember seeing that uncovered for a brief period.

With the darker green square on the lower left, it could be covering up a downward arrow and perhaps some unusual information (Alt Route, Trucks this lane only, etc...)

[amroad17]

The wording underneath the greenout is Eggleston Ave.  There was a temporary exit built for Eggleston so drivers could reach the downtown area when the Third Street tube of the Lytle Tunnel was closed and being rehabbed back around 2005 (yes, the sign is that old).  The ramp went through what is now Fido Field (a small dog park).  Here is a 2009 GSV of where the ramp was located: https://goo.gl/maps/Wrcgv9aEDiT3cSzv6

If you notice in the photo, the darker green section of the greenout is covering the two lower case g's.

[Harvestman]

The wording underneath the greenout is Eggleston Ave.  There was a temporary exit built for Eggleston so drivers could reach the downtown area when the Third Street tube of the Lytle Tunnel was closed and being rehabbed back around 2005 (yes, the sign is that old).  The ramp went through what is now Fido Field (a small dog park).  Here is a 2009 GSV of where the ramp was located: https://goo.gl/maps/Wrcgv9aEDiT3cSzv6

If you notice in the photo, the darker green section of the greenout is covering the two lower case g's.

Very interesting! Thanks for the info.