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Re: Ohio
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2016, 10:24:27 PM »

I must have missed the I-57 extension from the south side of Chicago eastward across Indiana and over to Toledo. :)
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2016, 02:56:59 PM »

Buck87, of course, meant the construction of a SPUI Interchange on Interstate 475 in Sylvania.
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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2016, 11:32:05 AM »

On the topic of US 30, I see Google Maps now shows it as freeway orange from Upper all the way to Convoy, even though that section has at grade intersections. Kind of hard to figure out how they decide what gets the orange vs yellow, as there is a very similar section of US 23 around Marion with limited at grade intersections that is still yellow. And then on US 24 there there's a section west of Defiance to Indiana with at grade intersections that is orange and a section between Defiance and Napoleon with at grade intersections that is yellow.

Maybe the speed limit has something to do with it? I know 23 around Marion is 65. Not sure about 24 (other than I'm pretty sure it was 65 when I was on it last). 30 used to be 65, but I did post on another thread about seeing an article stating that it was going to 70 from Indiana all the way to Mansfield (except for the Upper Sandusky bypass)

There are two categories that display as Orange on Google Maps, Expressway and Freeway.

Freeways cannot have any at grade intersections, only interchanges.

Expressways can be a mix of at grade intersections and interchanges.

The full definition can be found here.

I wish that Google Maps used a different color to denote toll route (like green).  On the existing maps it looks too close to free routes.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2016, 10:19:55 PM »

Noticed today that southbound lanes portion of my US 23 edit went through, so that awkward bicolor setup didn't last too long.

So now I've submitted several new edits to upgrade various Ohio roads to either expressways or freeways. They include the US 20 bypasses of Norwalk and Fremont, US 30 and OH 83 in Wooster, US 23 south of US 30 to just past OH 199, US 52 from Sciotoville to Hanging Rock, US 35 from OH 279 to Henderson, WV and US 23 from US 35 to just past OH 104. It'll be interesting to see how many of those go through, and whether or not any of them will have the same issue of the carriageways being different colors for a while.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2016, 11:18:48 PM »

I just noticed that the Cedar Point Causeway seems so quaint and low traffic.

This video shows it during the summer season of 2013.



The strange thing is that there's only four lanes, and there's not enough room to widen the road. This would be a problem when everyone comes and goes, is there any plans in widening the causeway? Also, signing is totally desolate, all you get is a VMS near the park entrance.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2016, 11:34:20 PM »

At one time (I don't know if they still do) they would have a contraflow lane in which they would add a 3rd lane by sticking plastic cones/sticks in holes in the road to allow better flow in the morning and evening "rush hours".

And they also have the 2-lane Cedar Point Chaussee on the east side (aka the original entrance to CP), but that was always is maintained as a 2-way traffic road due to residential properties and houses along that road.

I have had issues getting out at the end of the night on occasion, but once you are out of the parking areas, the drive along the causeway or chaussee is usually a steady flow.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2016, 11:54:17 PM »

Also, signing is totally desolate, all you get is a VMS near the park entrance.

Do you mean entrance signage? There are two big ones on the mainland side (that the people who took the video had already passed before filming)

This is what you see just before you start onto the causeway itself:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sandusky,+OH/@41.4510803,-82.6741655,3a,66.8y,36.31h,88.84t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9NYjWDMOi7vI7lDWv7pX9A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x883a4160ab1e4547:0xff2a84906612320f

and there's also this one at the corner of US 6 and Cedar Point Dr a little bit before that:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sandusky,+OH/@41.4417574,-82.6809863,3a,18.7y,53.15h,88.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sLo7vL3ZBu_E87uU1BAHOUg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x883a4160ab1e4547:0xff2a84906612320f

Also, I'm pretty sure the causeway itself is owned by the park. Not sure if they have any plans to expand it. Though traffic has been an issue at times on high volume nights, one time it was so bad that it became a news story because people had to wait for hours to get out:
 http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-erie/hundreds-of-people-were-stuck-in-the-cedar-point-parking-lot-saturday-night-after-halloweekends
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2016, 12:16:18 AM »

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Re: Ohio
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2016, 11:11:28 PM »

I just noticed that the Cedar Point Causeway seems so quaint and low traffic.

I found it a pleasant drive when I was there in 2011.  Drove up to the entrance for early entry from one of their hotel properties.  Much better than the drive to Six Flags New England, for example. :D
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2016, 10:27:11 PM »

According to this article from today, the causeway is owned and operated by the park:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Transportation/2016/02/11/Cedar-Point-s-bridge-foundation-falters.html?ci=breaking&lp=1
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2016, 01:16:37 AM »

According to this article from today, the causeway is owned and operated by the park:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Transportation/2016/02/11/Cedar-Point-s-bridge-foundation-falters.html?ci=breaking&lp=1


Also noted as a related article, the "new" Shoot The Rapids log flume ride is being torn down after only 6 years.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Business/2016/02/11/Shoot-The-Rapids-coming-down
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2016, 07:54:00 AM »

According to this article from today, the causeway is owned and operated by the park:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Transportation/2016/02/11/Cedar-Point-s-bridge-foundation-falters.html?ci=breaking&lp=1


Also noted as a related article, the "new" Shoot The Rapids log flume ride is being torn down after only 6 years.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Business/2016/02/11/Shoot-The-Rapids-coming-down

Makes me wonder about the boondoggle that is Mean Streak.  The ride was jolting people around too much (to the point of injury) when it first opened, so they rehabbed some of the track.  I rode it during the 2011 season after one of the rehabs and then they rehabbed it again after that.  All I know is that if I were managing the place, I'd be facedesking and considering the thing a money pit.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2016, 03:38:45 PM »

How is the conversion of the SR 2 section of the Cleveland Memorial Shoreway into a parkway going? Don't ask me why, but I seem very interested in that project.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2016, 09:50:04 AM »

Another new traffic light coming to US 23 in Delaware

http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/delaware/news/2015/12/18/intersections-upgrade-will-give-drivers-more-options.html

This is a downgrade of the northern Sandusky Street half-interchange.  Apparently the southbound exit ramp will be converted to a two-way extension of Sandusky Street, which will meet US 23 at a traffic light.  The northbound entrance ramp will remain.

This just adds to the case for a proper new-alignment freeway route through Delaware County that the powers that be aren't even considering.  See also fictional I-171.

Drove through there on Wednesday and noticed construction has started on this. Looked like the exit ramp from southbound 23 has already been removed.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2016, 04:17:23 PM »

Out with the old, in with the new...



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Re: Ohio
« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2016, 05:47:19 PM »

Did the old sign not have an exit marker?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #66 on: April 26, 2016, 05:57:41 PM »

If my recollection is correct, that is at the southeastern interchange between US 33 and I-270 in Columbus. Are they adding exit numbers along that stretch of road now or is this just in one place?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #67 on: April 26, 2016, 06:57:18 PM »

There is a large scale sign replacement going on in Franklin County, and they're adding exit numbers anywhere they aren't currently posted.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #68 on: April 26, 2016, 08:34:41 PM »

^ so I wonder if some of the ancient ones at the southern I-270/US 23 interchange will be (or have been) repalced
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« Reply #69 on: April 26, 2016, 10:48:00 PM »

Nice catch 6a, I saw them doing something there and was wondering what was going on. Are they dumping control cities with all these sign replacements?
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« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2016, 11:33:21 PM »

Nice catch 6a, I saw them doing something there and was wondering what was going on. Are they dumping control cities with all these sign replacements?

I believe so, at least as it relates to I-270.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2016, 12:18:22 PM »

Out with the old, in with the new...





This is a perfect example of how ODOT wastes money on signage &/or construction "upgrade" projects.  That Cincinnati Sign does not look to me more than 10 years old, and yet elsewhere on I-270, you have button-copy signs that are still standing at 30+ years old.
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« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2016, 03:49:24 PM »

This is a perfect example of how ODOT wastes money on signage &/or construction "upgrade" projects.  That Cincinnati Sign does not look to me more than 10 years old, and yet elsewhere on I-270, you have button-copy signs that are still standing at 30+ years old.

Button copy signage could be cleaned and refurbished and basically last indefinitely. Newer signs lose retroreflectivity over time, so they have to be replaced periodically.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2016, 02:46:43 AM »

I'm planning to travel from southern Ohio to western Michigan, and am thinking of taking US-30 between I-75 and Fort Wayne. I notice there is no direct connection between US-30 and I-75! Why? That whole area seems really poorly designed. Is there any plan to add a direct connection in the future?
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« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2016, 10:02:22 AM »

I'm planning to travel from southern Ohio to western Michigan, and am thinking of taking US-30 between I-75 and Fort Wayne. I notice there is no direct connection between US-30 and I-75! Why? That whole area seems really poorly designed. Is there any plan to add a direct connection in the future?

Pennsylvania has Breezewood. Ohio has Beaverdam. The indirect connection probably has something to do with I-75 running right next to the railroad tracks.
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