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Author Topic: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.  (Read 77001 times)

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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #275 on: January 19, 2020, 06:06:02 PM »

While they're fighting down here, I still think the Northern corridor should be built first. It would enable I-73 to be built from NC line to I-95, serving the small cities along the way. Oh well. Let's see if this one works out.

Since I-74 (and US 74 for that matter) is only 30-odd miles north of the projected northern I-73 corridor segment along SC 38 (at least at I-95), there is likely to be less perceived need to complete that segment.  The portion from I-95 southeast to Myrtle diverges from the US/I-74 path, so it presents a more direct as well as independent access facility to that recreational area than does the I-74 routing in NC (one of the things that have over the years caused many of us to wonder what the planners were smoking!).   The northern part will likely be built later simply to close the gap on a continuous route down from central NC and to avoid an annoying "zig-zag" over I-95 between the two corridor segments.  To Myrtle Beach interests, getting to I-95 is Job #1; expediting traffic northwest of there will come later. 
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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #276 on: March 21, 2020, 04:37:06 PM »

I-74 in South Carolina is a little unnecessary, my opinion, because there would be no need for it if the have I-73 and they both are coming from the same city, Rockingham, High Point!

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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #277 on: March 21, 2020, 04:45:50 PM »

I-74 in South Carolina is a little unnecessary, my opinion, because there would be no need for it if the have I-73 and they both are coming from the same city, Rockingham, High Point!

Well the part of the road being built in SC is perfectly fine, it's just that having the I-74 designation head toward Wilmington and then turn through the middle of nowhere down to Myrtle Beach is extremely dumb.
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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #278 on: March 21, 2020, 04:48:59 PM »

I-74 in South Carolina is a little unnecessary, my opinion, because there would be no need for it if the have I-73 and they both are coming from the same city, Rockingham, High Point!

Well the part of the road being built in SC is perfectly fine, it's just that having the I-74 designation head toward Wilmington and then turn through the middle of nowhere down to Myrtle Beach is extremely dumb.

I-20 should get extended to Wilmington, it could relieve traffic and Truckers from Memphis to Wilmington. as a native to south Carolina, i visit Myrtle beach 2 times a year and I see stuff for I-73 and i Believe it'll help out from people on the other side of the state to MB, but I-74 makes a Dead's man Curve for no reason.

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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #279 on: March 21, 2020, 04:54:30 PM »

I-74 in South Carolina is a little unnecessary, my opinion, because there would be no need for it if the have I-73 and they both are coming from the same city, Rockingham, High Point!

Well the part of the road being built in SC is perfectly fine, it's just that having the I-74 designation head toward Wilmington and then turn through the middle of nowhere down to Myrtle Beach is extremely dumb.

I-20 should get extended to Wilmington, it could relieve traffic and Truckers from Memphis to Wilmington. as a native to south Carolina, i visit Myrtle beach 2 times a year and I see stuff for I-73 and i Believe it'll help out from people on the other side of the state to MB, but I-74 makes a Dead's man Curve for no reason.

NCDOT wanted to extend I-20, but SC wasn't having it. I-74 going to Wilmington is adequate anyway since I-95 to I-74 from Florence isn't all that out of the way. It's already the quickest way according to Google Maps, and cutting that off by extending I-20 likely wouldn't save enough time to be worthwhile.
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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #280 on: March 21, 2020, 05:13:42 PM »

I-74 in South Carolina is a little unnecessary, my opinion, because there would be no need for it if the have I-73 and they both are coming from the same city, Rockingham, High Point!

Well the part of the road being built in SC is perfectly fine, it's just that having the I-74 designation head toward Wilmington and then turn through the middle of nowhere down to Myrtle Beach is extremely dumb.

SCDOT probably either didn't want to waste money, or didn't wanna run a Highway through Florence which i respect

I-20 should get extended to Wilmington, it could relieve traffic and Truckers from Memphis to Wilmington. as a native to south Carolina, i visit Myrtle beach 2 times a year and I see stuff for I-73 and i Believe it'll help out from people on the other side of the state to MB, but I-74 makes a Dead's man Curve for no reason.

NCDOT wanted to extend I-20, but SC wasn't having it. I-74 going to Wilmington is adequate anyway since I-95 to I-74 from Florence isn't all that out of the way. It's already the quickest way according to Google Maps, and cutting that off by extending I-20 likely wouldn't save enough time to be worthwhile.

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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #281 on: March 21, 2020, 05:45:12 PM »

Here's my thoughts on the situation, though this is getting fictional...

I-20 - Any extension east of I-95 is unrealistic in today's environment. Two existing / planned interstate highway corridors (I-95 and I-74) already serve this movement adequately, and an extension would at best shave 5-10 minutes off the current trip at the cost of a few billion dollars, as if South Carolina isn't already struggling to fund the $2+ billion I-73 between the North Carolina border and Myrtle Beach. If no interstate highway corridor existed between I-20 and US-74, I could see more of a desire for this, however one already does (I-95) and the only improvements needed are widening along I-95.

I-73 - Should be completed as currently planned between Roanoke, VA and Myrtle Beach.

I-74 - Designation needs to be fully deleted from North Carolina. The segment of I-73 that I-74 overlaps between Asheboro and Rockingham becomes solely I-73, the segment between Asheboro and I-77 becomes I-x73 / I-x77 / I-4x. The segment along US-74 becomes apart of a new cross-state interstate (see below). The segment through the Green Swamp is not constructed.

US-74 Corridor - New interstate designation between I-26 southeast of Asheville and Downtown Wilmington along the US-74 via Charlotte and Rockingham. Likely an I-3x.

Carolina Bays Pkwy / US-17 Corridor - The road should be completed to Shallote as currently proposed, and further extended to I-140 at Wilmington built to full interstate standards. Tying into the existing Carolina Bays Pkwy to the south, the existing I-140 to the north, and also to the proposed Hampstead bypass on the northern end of I-140, this would complete around 100 miles of freeway along the US-17 corridor. This could either become an extension of I-140, or apart of a new interstate designation (i.e. I-99) in the future for the US-17 corridor between Myrtle Beach and I-87 (proposed Norfolk <-> Raleigh corridor) at Williamston.
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Re: I-73 & I-74 in S.C.
« Reply #282 on: March 21, 2020, 05:55:20 PM »

Here's my thoughts on the situation, though this is getting fictional...

I-20 - Any extension east of I-95 is unrealistic in today's environment. Two existing / planned interstate highway corridors (I-95 and I-74) already serve this movement adequately, and an extension would at best shave 5-10 minutes off the current trip at the cost of a few billion dollars, as if South Carolina isn't already struggling to fund the $2+ billion I-73 between the North Carolina border and Myrtle Beach. If no interstate highway corridor existed between I-20 and US-74, I could see more of a desire for this, however one already does (I-95) and the only improvements needed are widening along I-95.

I-73 - Should be completed as currently planned between Roanoke, VA and Myrtle Beach.

I-74 - Designation needs to be fully deleted from North Carolina. The segment of I-73 that I-74 overlaps between Asheboro and Rockingham becomes solely I-73, the segment between Asheboro and I-77 becomes I-x73 / I-x77 / I-4x. The segment along US-74 becomes apart of a new cross-state interstate (see below). The segment through the Green Swamp is not constructed.

US-74 Corridor - New interstate designation between I-26 southeast of Asheville and Downtown Wilmington along the US-74 via Charlotte and Rockingham. Likely an I-3x.

Carolina Bays Pkwy / US-17 Corridor - The road should be completed to Shallote as currently proposed, and further extended to I-140 at Wilmington built to full interstate standards. Tying into the existing Carolina Bays Pkwy to the south, the existing I-140 to the north, and also to the proposed Hampstead bypass on the northern end of I-140, this would complete around 100 miles of freeway along the US-17 corridor. This could either become an extension of I-140, or apart of a new interstate designation (i.e. I-99) in the future for the US-17 corridor between Myrtle Beach and I-87 (proposed Norfolk <-> Raleigh corridor) at Williamston.

thats what i thought, i knew SCDOT was struggling with Funds especially since living here, most roads look like shit, but SC should just have their main focus be I-73, then they can talke about anything else, and I-74 Should end at I-73 in Portsmouth, OH because I-74 is Completely Usless in NC, and the I-74 between Mt Airy and Winston Salem is a Extended I-285. I-640 would be the Winston-Salem Beltway, but NCDOT Loves Interstates so let them have it!

 


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