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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2010, 05:49:21 PM »

MTA is planning a 5K run/walk on the first segment (expected to open by or before January).  The 5K is planned for October 17.
"The race will take place on about 1.5 paved miles of the first segment."  I guess the race goes for 1.5 miles, loops to the other side, and goes back to the start?

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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2010, 08:54:52 PM »

Probably.  Definitely some sort of out-and-back.  3 miles is about 5km.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2010, 10:05:49 AM »

Md. to close southbound I-270 for sign work

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GAITHERSBURG, Md. (AP) The Maryland State Highway Administration says all southbound lanes of Interstate 270 will be closed for brief periods early Tuesday morning in the Gaithersburg area so that crews can install an overhead sign structure.

The SHA said Friday that all four lanes south of Exit 10 will be shut down for two, 15-minute intervals between midnight and 4 a.m.

The agency is urging motorists to uses alternate routes such as state Route 355 during that time.

The SHA says the work is part of the Intercounty Connector, a six-lane toll road that will run between Montgomery and Prince George's counties.

As of Friday, there were still no signs present on these sign bridges (about three of them, IIRC), nor has there been any sign of modifications to the existing BGSes for I-370.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2010, 10:08:06 AM »

WTOP is reporting that the opening of the first segment has been pushed into 2011 due to recent rain and cold weather.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2010, 08:22:18 PM »

I spotted some new signs on I-270's express lanes today.  In each direction, there is a big green sign that is mostly blank but with an I-370 shield in the lower left.  Probably these will say something like "370  TO  TOLL 200" later, to explain the offset I-370 shields.  There are no MD 200 shields anywhere on I-270, I-370, nor at the metro station aside from the years-old project signs.

VMSs are announcing a planned lane shift to come on Dec. 18. Perhaps this will take the present median-shifted lanes and put them back on the usual through lanes pavement.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2010, 10:05:22 PM »

Presumably the inclusion of the ICC in http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/tollpage/t1part3.htm (rather than http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/tollpage/t1part4.htm) is incorrect?
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2010, 11:31:53 AM »

Decided to make a quick run by the ICC area this morning.  Observations:

Saw the signs treichard mentioned.  The rest of each of those signs is currently greened out.  It looks to me like there's no longer any mention on southbound I-270 of the Metro station with respect to this interchange, unless it's up past the MD 124 exit.

They're finally numbering the exits on I-370.  Eastbound, the gore point sign at the MD 355 north exit now reads "exit 2".  There are also exit 3A and 3B gore signs for what I'm thinking will be the Shady Grove Road and Metro station exits, respectively.  The I-370 mainline currently departs to the right a little before that exit 3A sign.  Westbound, some of the new BGSes have exit tabs, indicating exit 2 for MD 355 and exit 1 for I-270.  Given that northbound is a right exit and southbound is a left exit, I would assume these will ultimately be 1B and 1A, but I saw no indication of such today.

Visible from the westbound lanes of I-370 (through the 270-degree turn) is a BGS on the MD 200 mainline reading "END TOLL [200] BEGIN (370)".  Based on this, it seems most likely that the connector to the Metro station will no longer have a (signed) route number.

All new signs are, of course, in Clearview.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2010, 05:30:18 PM »

If the connector remains under SHA maintenance, it'll still have a route number for "bookkeeping" purposes.  Given precedent elsewhere, I see it being one of the following:  remaining I-370, SPUR I-370, I-370X, or MD 200A (or another letter suffix).
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2011, 03:03:49 AM »

If the connector remains under SHA maintenance, it'll still have a route number for "bookkeeping" purposes.  Given precedent elsewhere, I see it being one of the following:  remaining I-370, SPUR I-370, I-370X, or MD 200A (or another letter suffix).

Not sure it's remaining MDSHA maintenance though, from what I've heard.  It's definitely not I-370, and I don't see it being SPUR because it's not equal to the other "leg" of the route.

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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2011, 12:40:54 AM »

Maybe Business Spur I-370 then?

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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »

It's announced.  First segment of the ICC, between I-370 and Georgia Ave (MD 97) will open February 22.  Toll collection begins March 7, though the $3 service fee for non-EZPass customers is waived until April 6.

Also mentioned on the schedule is that the rest of the ICC out to I-95 (the extension to US 1 was deferred due to the financial situation) is definitely pushed into 2012 now.  There had previously been hope that it'd open in late 2011.

With this in mind, if we want to have a meet that takes full advantage of the toll-free status, our options are narrowed down to only two weekends.  I'll make a post on this in the meets folder.

(EDIT) Here's the thread for discussing a potential meet.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2011, 03:47:51 PM »

It's announced.  First segment of the ICC, between I-370 and Georgia Ave (MD 97) will open February 22.  Toll collection begins March 7, though the $3 service fee for non-EZPass customers is waived until April 6.

Also mentioned on the schedule is that the rest of the ICC out to I-95 (the extension to US 1 was deferred due to the financial situation) is definitely pushed into 2012 now.  There had previously been hope that it'd open in late 2011.

With this in mind, if we want to have a meet that takes full advantage of the toll-free status, our options are narrowed down to only two weekends.  I'll make a post on this in the meets folder.

(EDIT) Here's the thread for discussing a potential meet.


It'll be interesting how this turns out. Hopefully, they won't lose too much money on it, like South Carolina did with the toll section of I-185! :)
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2011, 12:11:20 AM »

If the connector remains under SHA maintenance, it'll still have a route number for "bookkeeping" purposes.  Given precedent elsewhere, I see it being one of the following:  remaining I-370, SPUR I-370, I-370X, or MD 200A (or another letter suffix).

Not sure it's remaining MDSHA maintenance though, from what I've heard.  It's definitely not I-370, and I don't see it being SPUR because it's not equal to the other "leg" of the route.

We'll only know for certain when SHA releases the new Highway Location Reference in July, reflecting conditions at year-end.  Because no part of the ICC is open at that time, it may take an additional year for the final designation changes to appear after opening.  Even though it will be under MDTA (toll) maintenance, SHA is the sole keeper of the route log, and changes in maintenance along routes are noted.  Every road and street in the state is entered into the database (~65 MB), with the same detail, no matter who maintains it.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2011, 12:23:58 PM »

Some local news media folks are tweeting that the speed limit will be 55 MPH.

Also, here's a photo of one of the overhead toll collection assemblies:  http://plixi.com/p/77611873
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2011, 05:31:11 PM »

I can't wait to drive on this - it's been a long time coming!

One question I had was about the existing MD 355 interchange. They have been doing a lot of work in that area. Right now, traffic on MD 355 has no direct access to I-370 (future MD 200) eastbound, which made sense because I-370 ended a mile down the road at the Metro Station.

But I've looked at the maps and it seems like they are not adding any new ramps? It looks like the only new movement will be that westbound MD 200 traffic will be able to go south onto MD 355 using a new traffic light at the current off-ramp. But will traffic on MD 355 have to turn east onto Shady Grove Road and drive to the current I-370 interchange to pick up MD 200 eastbound? That is a long detour. I know that space is constrained in that area but it seems like they could have tried to allow direct access to the ICC eastbound from MD 355.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2011, 05:38:10 PM »

I can't wait to drive on this - it's been a long time coming!

One question I had was about the existing MD 355 interchange. They have been doing a lot of work in that area. Right now, traffic on MD 355 has no direct access to I-370 (future MD 200) eastbound, which made sense because I-370 ended a mile down the road at the Metro Station.

But I've looked at the maps and it seems like they are not adding any new ramps? It looks like the only new movement will be that westbound MD 200 traffic will be able to go south onto MD 355 using a new traffic light at the current off-ramp. But will traffic on MD 355 have to turn east onto Shady Grove Road and drive to the current I-370 interchange to pick up MD 200 eastbound? That is a long detour. I know that space is constrained in that area but it seems like they could have tried to allow direct access to the ICC eastbound from MD 355.
Your observations are correct. There's no room for an onramp east of the interchange due to the next offramp to the Metro Station. About the only place you could shoehorn one in is west of the interchange next to the other ramp, and not only is it tight, but the offramp to 355 NB is right there. Just doesn't work - the WB offramp has barely enough weaving room.

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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2011, 05:46:40 PM »


Your observations are correct. There's no room for an onramp east of the interchange due to the next offramp to the Metro Station. About the only place you could shoehorn one in is west of the interchange next to the other ramp, and not only is it tight, but the offramp to 355 NB is right there. Just doesn't work - the WB offramp has barely enough weaving room.

My idea would be to close the EB loop off-ramp altogether. Have EB I-370 traffic wishing to go NB on MD 355 to use the existing off-ramp to Shady Grove Road (right now people are directed to use that ramp to get to SB 355).

Then, you add a spur off the current NB 355 -> WB 370 ramp that would utilize the disused undercrossing to connect with EB 200. Add a signal (or combine with the new one about to go into operation) to allow for SB 355 traffic to turn left to access this on-ramp. Then this on-ramp would split off into two directions: left to go EB towards Laurel or right to go WB to I-270. You might have to widen the undercrossing a bit to allow for this new ramp to go in the right direction.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2011, 12:40:30 AM »

They're finally numbering the exits on I-370.  Eastbound, the gore point sign at the MD 355 north exit now reads "exit 2".  There are also exit 3A and 3B gore signs for what I'm thinking will be the Shady Grove Road and Metro station exits, respectively.  The I-370 mainline currently departs to the right a little before that exit 3A sign.  Westbound, some of the new BGSes have exit tabs, indicating exit 2 for MD 355 and exit 1 for I-270.  Given that northbound is a right exit and southbound is a left exit, I would assume these will ultimately be 1B and 1A, but I saw no indication of such today.

WBAL made a photo tour of the nearly completed ICC:
http://www.wbaltv.com/slideshow/slideshows/26881990/detail.html

The MD 97 interchange has Exits 9A-B.  Using the Google Pedometer, the centerline crossing of this interchange is about 8 miles from the centerline crossing of I-270 and I-370, so the exit numbers don't reset at the I-370 - MD 200 transition.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2011, 12:29:09 PM »

Tonight's expected wintry mix is delaying the opening until Wednesday.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2011, 02:15:16 PM »

Any reason why "Wheaton" is in such huge text (compared to Olney) on the exit 9A-B sign pictured in that WBAL slideshow?
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2011, 02:24:21 PM »

Any reason why "Wheaton" is in such huge text (compared to Olney) on the exit 9A-B sign pictured in that WBAL slideshow?

I dunno, but i've noticed that before with a few signs in Maryland. 
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« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2011, 11:41:33 AM »

Any reason why "Wheaton" is in such huge text (compared to Olney) on the exit 9A-B sign pictured in that WBAL slideshow?

I dunno, but i've noticed that before with a few signs in Maryland. 
Larger text is for the immediate exit. They do that for route shields too, which is just ugly.
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2011, 07:42:47 AM »

And it's open...
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2011, 08:11:43 AM »

Just was watching the traffic cams @ MM 2.2.  Saw at least 45 near misses in less than 8 minutes. :wow:

Saw at least 10 people dive from the left lane over 3 lanes of traffic just to exit. :ded:  It's just crazy.

http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/video.asp?feed=c50024ab00ad0059004d06363d235daa
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Re: ICC Intercounty Connector
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2011, 05:50:26 PM »

Just got back from driving it, since I live all of two miles away.

Hit the road eastbound around 4:30pm; there were a decent number of vehicles on the road, but not enough to slow anything down.  I do wonder why the speed limit is only 55 instead of 65; that said, drivers seemed to be taking it a little slower on the ICC than I generally see on most DC-area freeways.

Exit 9 (MD 97) eastbound, I can tell, is going to be a problem for drivers still getting used to the road.  The combination of signage and lane markings seemed to be confusing to the driver in front of me attempting to reach MD 97 NB (exit 9B), as he first got into the proper exit lane, then changed lanes back onto the mainline shortly before the exit, then ultimately had to cross the gore to make the exit.

The temporary westbound beginning at MD 28 features what might be the largest reassurance shield I've ever seen.

The transition between I-370 and MD 200 is seamless, especially westbound.  Both I-370 and MD 200 now feature 1/10-mile markers over the whole route.  These mile markers do not reset at the route number change, which occurs around MM 2.4, IIRC.
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