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Started by I-39, March 21, 2016, 10:08:41 PM

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Brandon

Quote from: US20IL64 on July 20, 2025, 01:46:52 AM"All this did was to move the traffic jam eastward from Wolf Road to 25th Street."

Agree, but it's 25th Avenue:cool:  The traffic reporters call that stretch of I-290 "the avenues".
And it is in bad shape, due to not getting parties to agree on what to build. One possibility is add a 4th toll lane,

Rebuilding 290/88/294 is almost as extensive as the "Jane Byne Interchange" re-do.  :spin:

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Rick Powell

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Quote from: US20IL64 on July 20, 2025, 01:46:52 AMThe traffic reporters call that stretch of I-290 "the avenues".
And it is in bad shape, due to not getting parties to agree on what to build. One possibility is add a 4th toll lane,
The I-290 mainline work on the Avenues is starting to take shape. IDOT has programmed a few projects that will make a difference in modernizing the corridor.
* The IHB Railroad overhead bridge west of 25th Avenue, which is being lengthened and raised to accommodate the future 25th Avenue interchange ramps.
* The Des Plaines River bridge which will also replace a section of mainline pavement on each side.
* The IL 171/1st Avenue interchange, which will also include auxiliary lanes, ramps and mainline pavement.
* The 9th and 17th Avenue overhead bridges
* Two mainline trunk sewer projects that will accommodate future construction.

All projects will accommodate the future planned 4th lane in each direction.

US20IL64

Glad something is getting underway. Biggest obstacle is Oak Park, they tried to "landmark" the left lane ramps,   :rolleyes: to prevent changes. The plan is to go to those X type interchanges, like I-55 and Damen Av.


ChiMilNet

I keep saying if they want to landmark those left hand interchanges, go ahead, just IDOT can keep the "former" ramps in place and close the interchange entirely and leave Oak Park without access!

ChiMilNet

Quote from: Rick Powell on July 20, 2025, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: US20IL64 on July 20, 2025, 01:46:52 AMThe traffic reporters call that stretch of I-290 "the avenues".
And it is in bad shape, due to not getting parties to agree on what to build. One possibility is add a 4th toll lane,
The I-290 mainline work on the Avenues is starting to take shape. IDOT has programmed a few projects that will make a difference in modernizing the corridor.
* The IHB Railroad overhead bridge west of 25th Avenue, which is being lengthened and raised to accommodate the future 25th Avenue interchange ramps.
* The Des Plaines River bridge which will also replace a section of mainline pavement on each side.
* The IL 171/1st Avenue interchange, which will also include auxiliary lanes, ramps and mainline pavement.
* The 9th and 17th Avenue overhead bridges
* Two mainline trunk sewer projects that will accommodate future construction.

All projects will accommodate the future planned 4th lane in each direction.

Glad to hear advance work is underway. Much needed through there.

kphoger

Having used the Harlem exit a lot back in the day, I think it's ridiculous to advocate for them to stay in place.  Lefthand entry into thick but fast-moving traffic (such as onto the WB Ike from Harlem) is no bueno, and the whole opposing green arrows thing only works well if there are no trucks or trailers involved.

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Rick Powell

Quote from: kphoger on July 21, 2025, 09:01:53 AMHaving used the Harlem exit a lot back in the day, I think it's ridiculous to advocate for them to stay in place.  Lefthand entry into thick but fast-moving traffic (such as onto the WB Ike from Harlem) is no bueno, and the whole opposing green arrows thing only works well if there are no trucks or trailers involved.

That incident was several administrations ago. The village's current president and board is generally OK with the current plan to change from left-hand to right-hand entrance and exit ramps. It will be a challenging engineering feat to get this done under traffic, even with some temporary lane and ramp shut-downs.

SSOWorld

Quote from: US20IL64 on July 20, 2025, 01:46:52 AM"All this did was to move the traffic jam eastward from Wolf Road to 25th Street."

Agree, but it's 25th Avenue:cool:  The traffic reporters call that stretch of I-290 "the avenues".
And it is in bad shape, due to not getting parties to agree on what to build. One possibility is add a 4th toll lane,

Rebuilding 290/88/294 is almost as extensive as the "Jane Byne Interchange" re-do.  :spin:
Did you mean "Circle Interchange"? ;)
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US20IL64

Going back to 294/88/290, when will it ever get done! 2-3 mile + backups. :banghead: I live near and use 294/20/64 access ramps daily, too.


CtrlAltDel

I recently made my way up to Electric Avenue in Berkeley (or Vallette Avenue in Elmhurst) where it meets I-290 and I-294. At the time, the street was closed, but the Prairie Path, the recreational trail that runs parallel, was open, so I was able to get pretty close to things to take some pictures.

Here is an overview of the construction facing west along the Prairie Path. Above is 294, then there is the new ramp that will connect 294 South to 88 West and 290 East, and after that is 290. The new ramp is considerably higher than either of the main Interstates.


Here is a view facing south. The bridge under the flag will cross the ramp from 294 North to 290 West. That ramp, I'm pretty sure, will pass to the right where those I-beams are before hitting 290.


Here is the view from essentially the same spot facing north, where, again I think, the ramp from 294 North to 290 West will pass.


Here is a view of the mile 32 marker, which I thought made for an interesting picture.


So, it seems like it'll be a while until construction here is completed. I counted six sets of I-beams that need to be pounded into the ground to build what I think will be three bridges, with one new bridge, the one in the first picture, that is done or at least close to it.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

ChiMilNet

Great pics and makes me miss the Prairie Path! Is this interchange rebuild running behind? I moved away from the Elmhurst area over 2 years ago, and it was and had been a mess for a while by then. I hope this doesn't become like the Circle... err Burne Interchange downtown that took 8(?) years in total. I know it's complex and probably won't run into delays that bad, but it seems like it's taking longer than expected.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 26, 2025, 11:38:35 PMGreat pics and makes me miss the Prairie Path! Is this interchange rebuild running behind? I moved away from the Elmhurst area over 2 years ago, and it was and had been a mess for a while by then. I hope this doesn't become like the Circle... err Burne Interchange downtown that took 8(?) years in total. I know it's complex and probably won't run into delays that bad, but it seems like it's taking longer than expected.

I don't recall when completion was originally scheduled, but from looking around though, it seems pretty clear that it won't be this year, but it could be by next year, and definitely by 2027.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

ET21

2027, everything looks on track from what I've seen/heard. They finished my section a full year ahead of schedule including the Mile Long Bridge (I-55-95th St).

I-88/294 timeline
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IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

WISFreeways

In the new Hillside Strangler design, it seemed at first that I-290 westbound narrows to two through lanes as it passes under I-294. I wondered to myself how Illinois Tollway could be so incompetent. But as I looked closer, I realized I was wrong: the St. Charles exit constitutes a "third lane" that merges back into itself.

This sort of design has precedent, too. See for example I-35W/MN 280/MN 36.
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Great Lakes Roads

Announced sometime within the past few days, the Illinois Tollway Authority proposes toll rate increases, and a new proposal that calls for 'dynamic' toll pricing.

Dynamic toll pricing won't happen for another 10-15 years, but it essentially makes the tollway more expensive during peak hours.
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I-55

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 30, 2025, 11:46:37 PMAnnounced sometime within the past few days, the Illinois Tollway Authority proposes toll rate increases, and a new proposal that calls for 'dynamic' toll pricing.

Dynamic toll pricing won't happen for another 10-15 years, but it essentially makes the tollway more expensive during peak hours.

The Tollway system already has different rates for trucks depending on if it's day or night. I'm kinda surprised that cars haven't been on a similar model yet.
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