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Author Topic: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..  (Read 31265 times)

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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #225 on: January 22, 2019, 01:54:40 AM »

I think US-23 should still follow the old route between Bay City and Standish instead of run together for another 24 miles with I-75, then have the freeway connector ramp in the Standish area where M-13 ends and the roadway becomes US-23 which comes in off the freeway. The old route would follow the M-13 Connector to M-13 and then M-13 into the route now ending M-13 at Kawkawlin.
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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #226 on: January 22, 2019, 07:53:15 PM »

Mass. 4/225
Mass. 146/122A
I-93/US 1/Mass. 3
I-95/Mass. 128
Mass. 140/30
I-295/US 6 (RI)
I-291/US 20 (MA)
I-91/Mass. 2

For the last three, they should have been routed down the alt. route
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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #227 on: January 23, 2019, 12:20:21 PM »

FYI, some on your list were already mentioned and/or discussed.
Mass. 4/225
Already mentioned
Mass. 146/122A
Judging by GSV, Park Hill Ave. & Granite St. don't appear up to snuff to be designated as a state route... in this case MA 122A.  Note that MA 122A northbound does veer off MA 146 prior to the latter meeting I-290.
I-93/US 1/Mass. 3
This one I believe was discussed before.  However, since both US 1 & MA 3 leave I-93 at both ends (but different locations) and continue as stand-alone routes; the best one can do IMHO is either mute or silent the US 1/MA 3 concurrencies.
I-95/Mass. 128
Definitely already discussed.
I-295/US 6 (RI)
You may want to read up on the history of what was once proposed as I-84.  This short concurrency exists as a result of I-84 in RI not happening.  This concurrency is no worse than the I-95 (MA 128)/US 3 concurrency in Burlington.  Again, such was the result of the US 3 Expressway south of Burlington not happening.
I-91/Mass. 2
If MA 2 utilized MA 2A in Greenfield; what would the leg between US 5 & I-91 be?  If anything, I mute/silence the MA 2/2A concurrency east of US 5 from Adams St. (MA 2A West) to West Orange Rd. (MA 2A East) in Erving.
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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #228 on: January 23, 2019, 12:25:00 PM »

SR 99 and SR 38 in Oregon.  South of Drain, 99 has been removed as a number and it is now a Douglas County route.  It renders the 99 part of the concurrency as a dead end.  38 on the other hand is a primary E-W route connecting US 101 and I-5.  That is the number which deserves to remain.

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42 and 99 are also useless, as 42 just terminates at I-5 and 99 becomes concurrent with I-5: street view: Winston, Oregon

https://goo.gl/maps/s8GLn7q3swq

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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #229 on: January 23, 2019, 03:01:28 PM »

WV 90 would be the most logical route to extend over the current US 219 alignment. It wouldn't have a long multiplex with US 48 and wouldn't be doubling back on itself like WV 32.

You mean like WV 62 does when it was routed over the old US 33 alignment?
Exactly. WVDOH should have followed ODOT's lead and renumered the extension of WV 62 as WV 833.

I figured they would keep it as a state route because of the high school.
That's generally not a big concern for WVDOH. Part of old WV 55, now a county route, near Baker has East Hardy High School on it.

I think the only reason that WV 72 is a primary state route beyond Hendricks is because 1.) West Virginia doesn't leave state routes hanging, and 2.) in my experience, every incorporated place in the state is served by a primary state route. If there is an incorporated municipality that's served only by a county route, I'm unaware of it. I think this may be the same reason WV 71 is a primary state route, so it can serve Matoaka.
I imagine Hendricks and Hambleton are probably part of why WV 72 was extended, but there are a decent number of towns in WV not on a state route. Top of head: Anawalt (McDowell County), Davy (McDowell County), Grant Town (Marion County), Coalton/Womelsdorf (Randolph County), and Rhodell (Raleigh County, disincorporated 2017).
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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #230 on: January 28, 2019, 03:29:40 AM »

Despite my nostalgia, I think they can remove the MA-6A designation from N Truro and Provincetown, MA... the only parts that aren't under local maintenance now are the Commercial St. and Provincelands Rd. sections (about 1 mile each of the 9-mile-total spur).  Hell, even the US-6 expressway in Provincetown is under local maintenance now.

Why am I mentioning this?  Because as it stands right now, there's officially a US-6/MA-6A concurrency from the Orleans Rotary to N Truro.  Removing the 6A designation from the northern segment would end that concurrency.
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Re: Unnecessary Concurrencies, Name them..
« Reply #231 on: January 29, 2019, 05:44:03 PM »

Despite my nostalgia, I think they can remove the MA-6A designation from N Truro and Provincetown, MA... the only parts that aren't under local maintenance now are the Commercial St. and Provincelands Rd. sections (about 1 mile each of the 9-mile-total spur).  Hell, even the US-6 expressway in Provincetown is under local maintenance now.

Why am I mentioning this?  Because as it stands right now, there's officially a US-6/MA-6A concurrency from the Orleans Rotary to N Truro.  Removing the 6A designation from the northern segment would end that concurrency.
The concurrency that you speak of is a silent concurrency based on the signage.  There's plenty of silent-X/XA concurrencies in MA and are not really a big deal IMHO. 

The oddballs are actually the non-silent concurrencies like US 1/MA 1A in Newburyport/Salisbury of two of the MA 2/2A concurrencies.
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