3 stop signs at 4-way intersection

[kphoger]

Trying to tie this back to the topic....  It seems to me that many locations where there are three stops signs at a four-way intersection (near railroad, on a steep hill) are poor locations for a roundabout.  However, I wonder if a roundabout would work well for a mall entrance, or if there would still be too much risk of tailback onto the main road.

[Jet380]

However, I wonder if a roundabout would work well for a mall entrance, or if there would still be too much risk of tailback onto the main road.

If the shopping centre near me is any example, there is still a risk. They have a roundabout connected to the entry, and on busy days it can easily tail back into the traffic light controlled intersection to the south: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9024939,115.7984777,119m/data=!3m1!1e3

However, there's another shopping centre that uses a modified roundabout to prevent any backups. One of the sides of the roundabout is blocked off to remove any conflict with the entry road, although whether it is still considered a 'roundabout' by this point is debatable: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.8772341,115.7763377,72m/data=!3m1!1e3

These are in Australia, not the USA, but I figure there's not too much difference apart from the directions being reversed.

[kphoger]

However, I wonder if a roundabout would work well for a mall entrance, or if there would still be too much risk of tailback onto the main road.

If the shopping centre near me is any example, there is still a risk. They have a roundabout connected to the entry, and on busy days it can easily tail back into the traffic light controlled intersection to the south: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9024939,115.7984777,119m/data=!3m1!1e3

However, there's another shopping centre that uses a modified roundabout to prevent any backups. One of the sides of the roundabout is blocked off to remove any conflict with the entry road, although whether it is still considered a 'roundabout' by this point is debatable: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.8772341,115.7763377,72m/data=!3m1!1e3

These are in Australia, not the USA, but I figure there's not too much difference apart from the directions being reversed.

Your second example sounded good when I read it but, looking at it on the map, I dislike that "through" traffic along the parallel road is blocked by the teardrop.

[Brandon]

Trying to tie this back to the topic....  It seems to me that many locations where there are three stops signs at a four-way intersection (near railroad, on a steep hill) are poor locations for a roundabout.  However, I wonder if a roundabout would work well for a mall entrance, or if there would still be too much risk of tailback onto the main road.

It might, but we found another solution here, a very intricately timed signal for both the ring road and the intersection just outside the mall.  It used to be a two-way stop for the ring road and a four-way stop for the intersection.

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[Michael]

The first one I thought of is in our local Wegmans parking lot.  I always assumed it was so traffic didn't back up onto the street.  Depending on how far a car pulls forward, there is room for one or two cars between the street and parking lot aisle.

Another local one is on Turnpike Road at School Street/Powers Road.  Traffic on westbound Turnpike Road approaches the intersection coming up a hill, and it would be hard for a vehicle to get going again.  About 10-15 years ago, a stop sign was installed, but it only lasted for a week or two.  My mom had heard that a local paving company truck stalled out, which prompted the removal.

[ibagli]

Buena Vista Street and Manning Street in Newark, Ohio is like this. Eastbound traffic on Manning Street is coming up a hill and doesn't stop. The stop signs are just marked "3-way."

[epzik8]

I've got a rural example. Hilldale Road and Martic Heights Drive in Martic Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I go back to Maryland this way returning from Lancaster, Reading or the Lehigh Valley. Sorry for the huge pointers. And yes, I bought the Clearview font online for $175.

[paulthemapguy]

Here's an example I encountered last night in southwest Wisconsin.  The application of 3-way stops may be more common when a major highway is making a turn through a town.  I've seen this many times before--the leg that turns left has no stop sign, when the leg that turns right is given a stop sign because right turns are easier to make.

https://goo.gl/maps/X9jAST3iQHK2

[okroads]

The intersection of OH 325/OH 588 in Rio Grande is set up this way. Traffic going west on OH 588 does not stop, whereas traffic on OH 325 & eastbound Indian Creek Drive (old U.S. 35) stop.

https://goo.gl/maps/YaYTf4cGu3K2

View on OH 588 West:
DSC04625 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

View on OH 325 South:
DSC05225 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

[mgk920]

Lawe St and South River St here in Appleton is this way, this due to SB Lawe St ascending a fairly steep grade on the approach to the intersection.

https://goo.gl/maps/jFpXWikUPwB2

Mike

[mefailenglish]

Here's another one that I passed through a couple of months ago:

https://goo.gl/maps/5oCr6qJbtZt

I was going south on County O, so I didn't stop.  I saw the stop signs on W, but when I saw the stop for northbound O in my rear view, I panicked and wondered if I had accidentally blown through a 4-way stop.

[mgk920]

Another - the north WI 55/96 split (Lawe St/Delanglade St/Plank Rd) in Kaukauna, WI is stop in all approaches except for NB Lawe St.

Mike

[cjk374]

Eagle Dr

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=TbLHAFnKbKM_iW6rp88Y2Q&cbp=1%2C349.36954%2C%2C3.0%2C8.162102

This is my most hated place to be...Wally Hell in Ruston, LA. To make it worse this is also my most hated intersection. No one knows how to correctly navigate through here. Even worse...no placards under the stop signs to help people understand what to do here. Even though this looks like just a Wal-Mart parking lot, this is actually a street maintained by the city of Ruston (Eagle Dr.). At the end of the road is a credit union and Lowe's.

[cl94]

I have also seen it where a railroad grade crossing is located on one of the legs. In this case, the leg with the grade crossing doesn't have a stop sign. There's one of these in Hancock, NY.