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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #300 on: September 20, 2018, 07:56:08 AM »

 

One thing I've noticed:  the exit gore signs have been replaced so far at exits 2 -5.  The gore signs do NOT look wide enough to accommodate double-digit numbers should mile-based numbers come about.


Looks like Massachusetts is going to tell the FHWA to "Piss off" with their mandate to convert to mile-based exit numbering. 
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #301 on: September 20, 2018, 08:30:09 AM »

Have they installed new town line signs west of Springfield yet? The old ones were removed a year ago and hadn't been replaced when I was last through there.

I don't know if they're all up, but as of this past Saturday on my westbound trip I recall seeing the new style signs for Montgomery, Otis, and Becket, at least.  I figure the others were there but didn't grab my attention.

I also saw for the first time in person the new highest elevation sign but my efforts to grab a picture were thwarted by a bright setting sun in the background causing every little splattered bug and other flaw on my windshield to make a decent picture impossible.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #302 on: September 20, 2018, 10:24:49 AM »

Noticed that the regulatory, warning, etc signing on the Pike uses i-beams for supports; however, similar signage on the ramps is now being installed using square sign posts.  It's interesting the difference in what they are using for posts between the highway and ramps.

MassDOT is transitioning from single I-beam posts to square tube posts for the newer MA-D1-XX LGS signs, also larger regulatory, warning, and route signs as well.  This was the result of an evaluation of some single I-beam post failures that happened on Cape Cod during some storms last February and March.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #303 on: September 20, 2018, 10:47:34 PM »

and a quick correction to my post from yesterday.  One new 2-sign overhead assembly has been installed at Exit 4 eastbound in the last couple days.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #304 on: September 29, 2018, 01:04:13 PM »

The eastbound signs for Route 290 are all replaced now too, including the one at the exit itself. And gone is the old green hat logo there as well
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #305 on: October 30, 2018, 11:04:56 PM »

The contractor for the western sign replacement project (finally) put up new overhead signs for the I-84/Sturbridge exit last week. The large diagrammatic signs drop US 20 from the previous signs and has control cites of Hartford and NY City. here's the 1-Mile Advance:


Photos of the other new signs, and other new exit and regulatory signage spotted on the Pike can be found on my I-90/Mass Pike Photo Gallery:
http://www.malmeroads.net/mass21c/i90photos.html

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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #306 on: November 01, 2018, 02:32:02 PM »

You can see the lack of communication between the sign project and the AET project at Exit 10. Eastbound was originally a 2 lane exit and then has been made a one lane exit during the toll plaza project. The new sign just installed at the exit itself shows 2 down arrows in the exit only tab.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #307 on: November 03, 2018, 08:15:32 PM »

You can see the lack of communication between the sign project and the AET project at Exit 10. Eastbound was originally a 2 lane exit and then has been made a one lane exit during the toll plaza project. The new sign just installed at the exit itself shows 2 down arrows in the exit only tab.

Yup and the sad part is that exit already had one of those super ugly out of proportion signs with one of the down arrows covered, and now even after replacement it will look like that for years to come. The only difference is that the patch is now yellow instead of green.

There’s another one of these on I-93 south at the Braintree Split. The sign is way way too big and has a down arrow covered up; that one was a straight up design error there was no miscommunication except between the state and the designers. And the shame in that one is that it replaced a really well done sign that was a standard size, two down arrows, and a centered old school “exit only” patch which had a unique black border around it (haven’t seen this elsewhere in the state), making it more sharp looking than a standard yellow patch. So they bacislly replaced one of the state’s best looking signs with one of its absolute ugliest
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #308 on: November 05, 2018, 10:53:41 AM »

There’s another one of these on I-93 south at the Braintree Split. The sign is way way too big and has a down arrow covered up; that one was a straight up design error there was no miscommunication except between the state and the designers. And the shame in that one is that it replaced a really well done sign that was a standard size, two down arrows, and a centered old school “exit only” patch which had a unique black border around it (haven’t seen this elsewhere in the state), making it more sharp looking than a standard yellow patch. So they bacislly replaced one of the state’s best looking signs with one of its absolute ugliest
I'm assuming that you're referring to this sign vs. its predecessor sign.  What happened there (& I am not excusing/condoning the oversight) was that the exit lanes for MA 3 South was reduced from three to two during that time period but the replacement sign was still sized/configured for a three-lane exit.  Either MassDOT or the contractor opted for the "cheap" route for the sign correction and covered that far-left, angled down-arrow.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #309 on: November 05, 2018, 11:42:43 AM »

There’s another one of these on I-93 south at the Braintree Split. The sign is way way too big and has a down arrow covered up; that one was a straight up design error there was no miscommunication except between the state and the designers. And the shame in that one is that it replaced a really well done sign that was a standard size, two down arrows, and a centered old school “exit only” patch which had a unique black border around it (haven’t seen this elsewhere in the state), making it more sharp looking than a standard yellow patch. So they bacislly replaced one of the state’s best looking signs with one of its absolute ugliest
I'm assuming that you're referring to this sign vs. its predecessor sign.  What happened there (& I am not excusing/condoning the oversight) was that the exit lanes for MA 3 South was reduced from three to two during that time period but the replacement sign was still sized/configured for a three-lane exit.  Either MassDOT or the contractor opted for the "cheap" route for the sign correction and covered that far-left, angled down-arrow.
To tell you the truth, I actually forgot that it used to be three lanes there, which explains the error on the new one, so it was a wider sign at the split. I was actually thinking of the advance signage, which has been replaced by diagrammics, as the “beautiful” signage. I for some reason thought those regular width signs had been replaced with the new patched sign, but in reality it was actually just another three wide sign but with an exit only patch.

The change in lanes makes the I-90 one a more egregious error imo, because in this case they had already patched the previous sign
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #310 on: November 05, 2018, 11:48:48 AM »

The sign discussed in the previous posts:

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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #311 on: November 07, 2018, 09:47:50 AM »

There’s another one of these on I-93 south at the Braintree Split. The sign is way way too big and has a down arrow covered up; that one was a straight up design error there was no miscommunication except between the state and the designers. And the shame in that one is that it replaced a really well done sign that was a standard size, two down arrows, and a centered old school “exit only” patch which had a unique black border around it (haven’t seen this elsewhere in the state), making it more sharp looking than a standard yellow patch. So they bacislly replaced one of the state’s best looking signs with one of its absolute ugliest
I'm assuming that you're referring to this sign vs. its predecessor sign.  What happened there (& I am not excusing/condoning the oversight) was that the exit lanes for MA 3 South was reduced from three to two during that time period but the replacement sign was still sized/configured for a three-lane exit.  Either MassDOT or the contractor opted for the "cheap" route for the sign correction and covered that far-left, angled down-arrow.

The "narrowing" of the Route 3 exit to two lanes took place after the new signs were fabricated.  As such, the expedient move was to change the arrow on the diagrammatic signs to reflect the revised configuration, and to revise the exit direction sign by covering the third arrow.
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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #312 on: December 11, 2018, 11:29:26 AM »

Sign replacement is proceeding along the eastern half of the Mass Pike, if not the west. New signs are up eastbound for the Newton/Watertown exit, and advance signs are up westbound for Newton/Watertown and I-95/MA 128 along with a ramp sign for MA 16. There are also new signs along the ramps at the Weston interchange. The most curious sign is below, a 1/2 mile advance with no distance listing and an exit only arrow not pointing to the exit only lane, could this be the ramp sign put in the wrong place?:


The rest of the new sign images can be found on my I-90/Mass Pike Photo Gallery:
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The above sign has been revised so that the exit only arrow now appears over the correct lane:


No new Pike signage to report east of I-95/MA 128. The contractor has been putting new mile posts up in the median though, as of Sunday they're present west of Mile 125 (MA 16 WB exit). Here's one prior to the Weston interchange (with to be replaced signage in the background:

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Re: I-90 / Mass Pike Signing Work
« Reply #313 on: December 11, 2018, 08:59:26 PM »

On the western contract, the only overhead signs that have not been changed are the 2-sign overheads at Exit 10 WB and Exit 6 WB.   (Yes, the button copy still lives at exit 6)
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