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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #525 on: July 11, 2022, 12:41:56 PM »

And there will be another 3di concurrency in North Carolina once NCDOT completes the "missing gap" from N Elm Street to US 29/I-785 in Greensboro.
It's already under construction, it will be complete within the next year or so.
The official completion date for the Greensboro Urban Loop is Spring 2023.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #526 on: July 13, 2022, 11:34:59 AM »

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #527 on: July 13, 2022, 06:20:37 PM »

Still no 587 shields along the US 264 freeway between Wilson and Greenville on Google Maps. I (or somebody else) will keep all you posted on whether this changes. Stay tuned!
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #528 on: July 14, 2022, 11:27:32 AM »

Still no 587 shields along the US 264 freeway between Wilson and Greenville on Google Maps. I (or somebody else) will keep all you posted on whether this changes. Stay tuned!

They may be waiting until all of the signs have been changed, and according to an article posted upthread, aluminum shortage is still an issue, so it could be a while.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #529 on: July 22, 2022, 08:34:44 PM »

I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Not the best photo sadly, but I think it is good enough for you to get the point.  Basically, this is a similar shield for I-83 with a white "END".  I believe it was installed as a part of the I-83 construction so I believe it will be around for a while.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217275077509474&set=a.10216218268569911

I added a second photo showing the left END sign for I-83 more clearly.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217384499764962&set=a.10216218268569911)
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #530 on: July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PM »

Greenville newspaper article regarding signing of I-587 which indicates a slow timeline for sign updates due to 'supply change issues' for aluminum signs. It also quotes an NCDOT official saying "about 900 signs will be changed out intermittently at a cost of about $9 million." Does that number seem reasonable? 37 miles of 1/2 mile markers in each direction yields only about 150 signs and there are less than 20 exits needing new reassurance and trailblazer markers along with exit number changes between I-95 and Greenville. Perhaps this includes US 264 sign changes as well:
https://www.reflector.com/news/local/community-celebrates-signage-for-interstate-587/article_6ba29ba2-29cd-51dd-a31d-ecfff55cbf02.html

NCDOT press release about the sign changes, including a new numbering system for the section between I-95 and Zebulon.

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx
« Last Edit: July 27, 2022, 05:09:57 PM by LM117 »
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #531 on: July 27, 2022, 11:33:37 PM »

Greenville newspaper article regarding signing of I-587 which indicates a slow timeline for sign updates due to 'supply change issues' for aluminum signs. It also quotes an NCDOT official saying "about 900 signs will be changed out intermittently at a cost of about $9 million." Does that number seem reasonable? 37 miles of 1/2 mile markers in each direction yields only about 150 signs and there are less than 20 exits needing new reassurance and trailblazer markers along with exit number changes between I-95 and Greenville. Perhaps this includes US 264 sign changes as well:
https://www.reflector.com/news/local/community-celebrates-signage-for-interstate-587/article_6ba29ba2-29cd-51dd-a31d-ecfff55cbf02.html

NCDOT press release about the sign changes, including a new numbering system for the section between I-95 and Zebulon.

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx
It might have been helpful to include the new exit numbers with the press release. I have an exit list with my best guesses at: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/i587exits.html

Will the US 264 mile markers be ones without a shield or with a I-587 shield covered up, for now.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #532 on: July 28, 2022, 08:28:09 PM »

Google maps still doesn’t have I-587. For how quick they are on some changes, they sure are slow in this.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #533 on: July 29, 2022, 09:54:19 AM »

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #534 on: July 29, 2022, 10:06:18 AM »

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:

I-369 comes to mind in the recent past.  I-269 probably qualifies too.

It is a certainty that this dynamic existed during the early years before substantial completion of the system.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #535 on: July 29, 2022, 11:17:16 AM »

I-369 comes to mind in the recent past.
I-369 currently only exists as a 3 mile route near Texarkana… the entire I-369 highway will be over 100 miles long once completed, stretching south to meet I-69 at Tenaha.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #536 on: July 29, 2022, 01:15:29 PM »

Google Maps Street View has updated images taken along I-587 West to June 2022 between Farmville and Wilson. I was able to take some screen grabs of the mile markers that had been placed by that time (unfortunately, it appears they traveled the route a few days before the I-587 shields started going up though, comparing images with earlier ones, they had already started taking down US 264 signs in Pitt and Greene Counties), such as:


The remaining photos are at https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut587.html#photos

Based on the images I made some corrections to my preliminary exit list, especially in the Wilson area.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #537 on: July 29, 2022, 04:17:58 PM »

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #538 on: July 29, 2022, 05:28:26 PM »

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

Lots of x70s too.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #539 on: July 29, 2022, 05:40:03 PM »

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

Lots of x70s too.
And x40s and x90s, as well.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #540 on: July 29, 2022, 09:00:17 PM »

Google maps still doesn’t have I-587. For how quick they are on some changes, they sure are slow in this.

Especially since I-885 is already in Google despite the east end connector being opened after I-587 was signed.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #541 on: August 04, 2022, 05:00:21 PM »

Good News! Interstate 587 is now marked on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6780375,-77.7093894,30049m/data=!3m1!1e3.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #542 on: August 09, 2022, 12:02:11 PM »

Good News! Interstate 587 is now marked on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6780375,-77.7093894,30049m/data=!3m1!1e3.
Though they took US 264 off the freeway east of Wilson, they still have Alt US 264 signed between there and Greenville. A small step forward though.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #543 on: August 09, 2022, 02:46:55 PM »

I-587 is visible in Google Earth as well.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #544 on: August 17, 2022, 10:59:01 PM »

Good News! Interstate 587 is now marked on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6780375,-77.7093894,30049m/data=!3m1!1e3.
Though they took US 264 off the freeway east of Wilson, they still have Alt US 264 signed between there and Greenville. A small step forward though.
Noticed today that I-587 has now also appeared on NCDOT's own 'Real-Time Traffic' maps. (Too bad they don't include exit numbers.)

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #545 on: August 19, 2022, 02:12:31 PM »

Is the US 264/NC 11 Bypass segment no longer planned to become part of Interstate 587? I believe that at one point, the segment from Exit 73 to Exit 80 was going to be included as part of 587.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #546 on: August 19, 2022, 04:18:39 PM »

Is the US 264/NC 11 Bypass segment no longer planned to become part of Interstate 587? I believe that at one point, the segment from Exit 73 to Exit 80 was going to be included as part of 587.

No, it was never planned to become part of I-587.

However, it was part of a proposed new interstate between Kinston and Bethel, which was included in the Eastern NC Gateway Act that was introduced in Congress shortly before the 2016 elections. It obviously didn't get anywhere, and there's been no further talk of it since.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #547 on: September 05, 2022, 10:56:19 PM »

I've posted screen grabs from the updated (July and August) Google Maps Street View coverage of I-587, which includes this End I-587 sign (again using a US route white banner) just beyond the first Greenville Bypass exit:


The rest can be found at: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut587.html#photos

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #548 on: September 06, 2022, 04:37:13 PM »

Will the exit numbers on Interstate 587 be renumbered anytime soon? Or will the US 264 numbers remain until the 587 designation reaches US 64 (and future Interstate 87)?
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #549 on: September 06, 2022, 08:26:56 PM »

Will the exit numbers on Interstate 587 be renumbered anytime soon? Or will the US 264 numbers remain until the 587 designation reaches US 64 (and future Interstate 87)?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19189.msg2757943#msg2757943
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