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OKDOT Agency News
« on: April 30, 2017, 10:26:57 PM »

Started this thread to keep track of the updates going on within the agency and changes to their budget, rules, practices, etc...

Nice first update regarding the deteriorating budget situation in Oklahoma. Looking like OkDOT's budget might be slashed to under $350m a year. The I-235/I-44 interchange project is specifically mentioned and it looks like that project which is already taking a decade to complete(a simple 3 stack!!!) could be dragged out even more. Very irritating.

http://m.newsok.com/article/5547324
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 05:05:35 AM »

OkDOT already acts like their annual budget is around twelve dollars (counting a BOGO McDonald's coupon in the total), so it will be interesting to see them come up with new ways to disappoint us.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2017, 12:00:17 PM »

OkDOT already acts like their annual budget is around twelve dollars (counting a BOGO McDonald's coupon in the total), so it will be interesting to see them come up with new ways to disappoint us.

Wouldn't surprise me if OK 20 doesn't reopen at the bridges that got flooded out last weekend.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2017, 02:58:36 PM »

It is very embarrassing and angering that this is happening. A few years ago, it really felt like OkDOT was starting to make good progress on several things. Unfortunately, it seems like all of that is going going to be reversed.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2017, 10:32:32 PM »

Would certainly be "interesting" if they had to stop work on the I-235 widening considering they just started to tear down the NE 50th Street overpass in the last week or so...
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 10:39:54 PM »

Drive north on I-35 out of OKC and tell me the budget is not $12.  The first time, we thought we had a flat.  It hasn't gotten any better.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 02:42:38 AM »

Would certainly be "interesting" if they had to stop work on the I-235 widening considering they just started to tear down the NE 50th Street overpass in the last week or so...

I would imagine the current phase of the project is paid for, but later phases of the interchange (i.e. the flyovers) might be delayed.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2017, 02:54:54 AM »

Would certainly be "interesting" if they had to stop work on the I-235 widening considering they just started to tear down the NE 50th Street overpass in the last week or so...

I would imagine the current phase of the project is paid for, but later phases of the interchange (i.e. the flyovers) might be delayed.
lol and here I am hoping they would surprise us with an announcement that they will bring back the Santa Fe bridge proposal.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 02:59:35 AM »

Actually Scott, check this video out. Not good.

http://newsok.com/multimedia/video/5419404189001#gsc.tab=0
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 07:26:10 AM »

That's asinine. We're going to spend more money in the long run to "save" money in the short run.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 07:45:33 AM »

That's asinine. We're going to spend more money in the long run to "save" money in the short run.

But we need to keep subsidizing the oil industry by extending their temporary well tax suspension!

/THIS IS WHAT OKLAHOMA REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 04:29:17 PM »

Very good video, but one that should make anyone with a functional brain pretty angry.

Regarding the I-235/I-44 interchange project shown in the video, I don't know why the flyovers are put off until the very end. This project has been funded and let in small bits and pieces over a 10 year period already. Construction cost inflation for road building has been really serious. By the time they ever get around to building the two large flyover ramps they're going to cost a hell of a lot more money to build than back in the mid 2000's.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »

If Gov. Fallin issued an executive order requiring a Ten Commandments monument on every road project, you can bet your bippy the derpwoods in the Legislature would fund the roads right away.  :banghead:
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2017, 03:13:22 AM »

If Gov. Fallin issued an executive order requiring a Ten Commandments monument on every road project, you can bet your bippy the derpwoods in the Legislature would fund the roads right away.  :banghead:

Would help if more people voted, but we seem to be determined to make it hard to vote here.  Gotta love how quickly they disenroll you from voting even when you're an active voter, that whole "let's do this for a few hours on a working Tuesday" bit along with "people who participate in early voting or absentee voting don't get the full ballot" and "you have to vote in person" thing instead of the modern "You get 42 days to mail in your ballot, and by the way, here's the text of the questions you're voting on and resumes of the candidates" thing.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2017, 07:06:00 PM »

The whole voting on a Tuesday work-day thing is, IMHO, a way to discourage lower income and/or non-white people from voting. Most other developed nations set their voting day on the weekend when far more people are off work. Some make the voting day a national holiday. Combine the US voting day with other immoral practices, like Gerrymandering districts and operating as few polling places as possible in any lower income neighborhood. Add in how campaigns are financed. It's part of what makes the United States' form of government an insidious form of oligarchy.

I'm a white guy but it's easy even for me to see just how racist and class warfare-mongering our society is these days.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2017, 01:39:14 AM »

I would imagine that moving it to the weekend would result in far fewer lower-income people being able to vote. Those people are most likely to be in sectors like retail and other customer service jobs that don't follow a 9-to-5 schedule. (I don't have any numbers to back this up, however.)
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2017, 01:42:19 AM »

I would imagine that moving it to the weekend would result in far fewer lower-income people being able to vote. Those people are most likely to be in sectors like retail and other customer service jobs that don't follow a 9-to-5 schedule. (I don't have any numbers to back this up, however.)

I would actually agree with this. Most people working on retail are very likely to be working on the weekends, given that that is when more people are shopping.

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2017, 01:50:52 AM »

The whole voting on a Tuesday work-day thing is, IMHO, a way to discourage lower income and/or non-white people from voting.

Or just discourage anyone who isn't too stupid, old or insane to hold down a regular job from voting.  And those who are too stupid, old or insane to hold down a regular job blindly vote a straight ticket against their own self interest.

Most other developed nations set their voting day on the weekend when far more people are off work. Some make the voting day a national holiday. Combine the US voting day with other immoral practices, like Gerrymandering districts and operating as few polling places as possible in any lower income neighborhood. Add in how campaigns are financed. It's part of what makes the United States' form of government an insidious form of oligarchy.

Pretty much, yeah.  Then you get right wing states like Oregon and Washington looking more politically balanced than, say, Oklahoma or Kansas, because it's actually possible for people who don't have a working Tuesday free to vote (and actually difficult to avoid voting).  And then you get Oklahoma and Kansas, which are way more hella diverse and tolerant of that than the northwest ever was, and they come off as crazy because ballot access, either as a voter or as a candidate, is a three-ring circus and you're the lion jumping through the rings of fire.  I've had to reregister to vote 3 more times than I've moved since arriving in Oklahoma and plan an entire day around dealing with it and an entire different day pounding the internet for information on what it is I'm even voting on.  Which sucks, considering in contrast, I usually voted in pajamas or in my underwear (either way, if I was wearing proper pants, it was purely coincidental) with the voter's information pamphlet next to me and just put it down to come back to later anytime I got sick of looking at it (it'd usually take me a week or two to work through the ballot).  Then ride past County Elections for the ballot box handoff to avoid having to pay for a stamp to mail it back.

I'm a white guy but it's easy even for me to see just how racist and class warfare-mongering our society is these days.

I think it's plainly obvious to anyone who has two braincells they can still rub together to spark a thought.  Oklahoma used to have Election Day as a holiday, and it was a day that pretty much everything except the polling places, fire stations and police stations just plain weren't operating at all.  Like you'd be lucky to find a convenience store open.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2017, 02:02:36 AM »

I would imagine that moving it to the weekend would result in far fewer lower-income people being able to vote. Those people are most likely to be in sectors like retail and other customer service jobs that don't follow a 9-to-5 schedule. (I don't have any numbers to back this up, however.)

I would actually agree with this. Most people working on retail are very likely to be working on the weekends, given that that is when more people are shopping.

I don't.  We live in a 24/7 society now.  You'd just be shifting which group of people across the same demographics have access to the polls.  Which is why, whether we do it vote by mail (which I still think is a good idea) or in person, we should just limit "absentee" voting to the folks who will legitimately not be in their jurisdiction for the entire duration of the election, eliminate the concept of "early voting" and just hold the election days 24/7 for six weeks straight like the vote by mail states do.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2017, 01:37:35 PM »

OkDOT already acts like their annual budget is around twelve dollars (counting a BOGO McDonald's coupon in the total), so it will be interesting to see them come up with new ways to disappoint us.

OkDOT is the result of IDOT and MDOT getting drunk and having a baby, whilst drunk.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2017, 04:10:30 PM »

Pretty sure a little crack was smoked at some point as well.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2017, 03:32:50 PM »

I've heard from a source inside ODOT that no further work will be done on the 50th St bridge demolition due to lack of funds.  Also, there is a good chance that the only future investment will be in sod for the bare embankments unless the funding crisis is averted.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2017, 06:07:04 PM »

They've also suspended work at the I-35/I-240 interchange.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2017, 09:37:11 PM »

Pretty sure a little crack was smoked at some point as well.
No, this is Oklahoma, they prefer Oxy and meth.
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Re: OKDOT Agency News
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2017, 01:18:26 PM »

This certainly doesn't seem promising... http://newsok.com/article/5549038
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