Florida

[ModernDayWarrior]

https://www.wesh.com/article/desantis-suggests-ending-tolls-for-florida-residents/69810914

An interesting proposal from the Governor, but I don't see this happening.

Me either, because it's blatantly unconstitutional. Not even the current Supreme Court would let this stand.

[zzcarp]

https://www.wesh.com/article/desantis-suggests-ending-tolls-for-florida-residents/69810914

An interesting proposal from the Governor, but I don't see this happening.

Me either, because it's blatantly unconstitutional. Not even the current Supreme Court would let this stand.

How would that be different than NY EZ Pass giving separate discounts to residents versus not? Admittedly, I'm no tax expert, but there could be some sort of tax rebate process that would pass constitutional muster. I'm not convinced it's a good idea, but there may be ways it can pass Constitutional muster.

[formulanone]

https://www.wesh.com/article/desantis-suggests-ending-tolls-for-florida-residents/69810914

An interesting proposal from the Governor, but I don't see this happening.

Me either, because it's blatantly unconstitutional. Not even the current Supreme Court would let this stand.

How would that be different than NY EZ Pass giving separate discounts to residents versus not? Admittedly, I'm no tax expert, but there could be some sort of tax rebate process that would pass constitutional muster. I'm not convinced it's a good idea, but there may be ways it can pass Constitutional muster.

It's a dumb idea because most of the tolls are paid by the residents of Florida; a peninsula in the corner of the country, so there isn't as much inter-state traffic on those roads. Almost all of the toll roads are in its southern half, and most of it is commuting traffic in the larger cities. Trucks have primarily used the interstates or other state roads to bypass the tolls. Sure, there's tourists and rental cars that use many of the roads, but it's less than half of the vehicles, except for places immediately adjacent to tourist spots.

This just sounds like pandering for votes and attention.

[D-Dey65]

Two new topics this time.

Is there a hidden or secret route number for the connecting ramps between I-4 and US 92 west of I-95 in Daytona Beach?

A few weeks ago, there were a series of news reports about the proposed extension of Hernando CR 576 to I-75, as if they were seriously going to build it this time. Instead of wasting money on that, what Hernando County should be spending it on is turning CR 585 into a four-lane highway north of CR 572. That's right -- straight into SR 50!

[D-Dey65]

I just saw a Google Street View of the interchange reconstruction of I-95 and the Martin Luther King Junior Parkway in Northside Jacksonville, and I have to say I'm disappointed. I like the raising of the clearance for US 1, but I hate the signalized left turn intersections.

https://www.nflroads.com/ProjectDetails.aspx?p=5405

Also, I think they should expose hidden FL 115's transition from US 1 to I-95 and vice-versa.

[D-Dey65]

Wow, three posts in a row again.

Okay, I just found out about this proposal to extend Southwest 49th Street down to "Marion Oaks Manor" which itself has a proposal to an extension to a bridge over I-75 leading to Marion County Road 42 in Pedro, Florida.
https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2026/01/05/traffic-inbox--plans-underway-for-i-75-overpass-in-sw-marion-county

https://engage.marionfl.org/sw49thave#tab-67513

There is the option of an interchange with I-75, but I think that would be a bad idea. If they keep adding more interchanges with I-75, they're going to have to add local and express lanes down as far south as Wildwood.

[ElishaGOtis]

Two new topics this time.

Is there a hidden or secret route number for the connecting ramps between I-4 and US 92 west of I-95 in Daytona Beach?

No. The ramps are functionally classified as "active exclusive", which means they are effectively a part of both routes they connect. "Active on system / SHS" however does mean they have a number. This is apparently why Florida has been adding a bunch of frontage road numbers, because the FHWA change the definition of such from "active exclusive" to "active on system."

Likewise, the I-4 Selmon connector also does not have a number.

See this for more info: https://gis-fdot.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/road-status/about

Not every district has switched over their frontage and service roads from active exclusive to active on system. Once they do, they will receive a state road number, either with an F / S suffix or their own number.

[pianocello]

There is the option of an interchange with I-75, but I think that would be a bad idea. If they keep adding more interchanges with I-75, they're going to have to add local and express lanes down as far south as Wildwood.

I wouldn't go that far. As it is, it's 11 miles between SR 44 and CR 484, so an interchange in the middle certainly wouldn't hurt. Plus it could give more access to relief routes during the inexplicable backups in that stretch.

And even if local/express was needed, the likelihood of it actually happening is pretty low. This is an FDOT district that couldn't even be bothered to put in auxiliary lanes in Ocala.

[D-Dey65]

There is the option of an interchange with I-75, but I think that would be a bad idea. If they keep adding more interchanges with I-75, they're going to have to add local and express lanes down as far south as Wildwood.

I wouldn't go that far. As it is, it's 11 miles between SR 44 and CR 484, so an interchange in the middle certainly wouldn't hurt. Plus it could give more access to relief routes during the inexplicable backups in that stretch.

Keep this in mind though; A potential interchange with CR 42 is also too close to the truck weigh station. I know 11 miles is nothing like the distance between SR 54 and 52 in Pasco County, or between US 27 and SR/CR 326 north of Ocala, but there's still two other exit and entrance point, and this future interchange is too risky.

[ElishaGOtis]

Was there actually an old bridge here? Sure as heck looks like an approach to something but I'm having doubts it was a bridge (maybe a ferry approach?)... even still, this little park thing here is kinda odd...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/A3yNty3WxrNa84oz7?g_st=ipc

[D-Dey65]

Was there actually an old bridge here? Sure as heck looks like an approach to something but I'm having doubts it was a bridge (maybe a ferry approach?)... even still, this little park thing here is kinda odd...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/A3yNty3WxrNa84oz7?g_st=ipc

Historic Aerials shows that the FL 206 was moved from the old bridge to the new bridge between 1960 and 1983.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=12&lat=29.754444&lon=-81.244444

[ElishaGOtis]

Was there actually an old bridge here? Sure as heck looks like an approach to something but I'm having doubts it was a bridge (maybe a ferry approach?)... even still, this little park thing here is kinda odd...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/A3yNty3WxrNa84oz7?g_st=ipc

Historic Aerials shows that the FL 206 was moved from the old bridge to the new bridge between 1960 and 1983.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=12&lat=29.754444&lon=-81.244444

The fact I didn't think of doing this before should be a crime     

My mistake lmao thanks

[Great Lakes Roads]

Florida creates a new SR designation in Brevard County.

[roadman65]

Just drove the extension that opened recently on the Suncoast Parkway and noticed that they're already extending north of Citrus CR 468.


In addition they dont have Crystal River signed for FL 44 even though its the most direct route to that city.  Instead Inverness is signed by itself.  It's almost like the FTE wants you to use CR 468 to Crystal River to pay another toll. 

Also CR 468 doesn't go to Crystal River directly either. It merges into FL 44 ( the same road as the previous exit) to reach that particular place.   It dont make sense other than the extra toll.  Even from FL 44 eastbound a shield tells Suncoast Parkway motorists to use CR 468 EB as well instead of remaining to where FL 44 exchanges with the toll road.

Also an odd directional T is the selected interchange for the Suncoast and CR 468 instead of a diamond or folded diamond.

[NE2]

There's no extra toll to continue north to CR 486...

[emory]

FDOT's SLD GUI has made an interesting update and mapped out a ton of non-state highways. Like any major or minor corridor is on the map. No PDFs for them yet.

https://slogis.fdot.gov/

[NE2]

Looks like someone added the local roads layer to the map, intentionally or not.

[DeaconG]

Florida creates a new SR designation in Brevard County.

The original section by NASA Causeway was originally the MILA Access Road, which went straight to the tracking station I worked at KSC. When they built Space Commerce Way, they added an intersection to the remainder of the access road. The S-Band Collimation Tower is the only reminder that the site existed (due to bald eagles nesting on the top). I expect Blue Origin to eventually absorb the area of the old site.

[ElishaGOtis]

Found some information from FDOT regarding I-795. Application to be sent to AASHTO in the Spring of 2026. It is currently planned to only be designated between I-95 and I-295, with the rest signed as 9B. THIS COULD CHANGE.

Information from FPID 457538-1 (I'm not affiliated with this project).

[Great Lakes Roads]

Found some information from FDOT regarding I-795. Application to be sent to AASHTO in the Spring of 2026. It is currently planned to only be designated between I-95 and I-295, with the rest signed as 9B. THIS COULD CHANGE.

Information from FPID 457538-1 (I'm not affiliated with this project).

It's about time! 

[The Ghostbuster]

Why did they wait so long to send an application to signpost Interstate 795? All of FL 9B has been open since 2018.

[roadman65]

I think it should be given the number I-895 being it connects two existing interstates as odd numbers are usually Spur routes.

[The Ghostbuster]

The 795 designation was proposed since FL 9B continues past Interstate 95 to St. Johns Parkway South.

[roadman65]

The 795 designation was proposed since FL 9B continues past Interstate 95 to St. Johns Parkway South.

But if only being designated only to I-95 it makes more sense.

IMO the east Beltway should all be I-895 to avoid having the east beltway-west Beltway thing. Keep I-295 on the west loop and the part from I-95 to FL 9B.

[hotdogPi]

Assuming no future extension, I would personally have it as I-895, as the freeway layout matches I-865 in Indiana. However, I can see the rationale either way; it's unclear whether it's radial or circumferential (I-295 is the obvious circumferential route but FL 9B definitely doesn't go straight inward), and if any southward extension of FL 9B happens, I-795 will clearly be the correct number to use unless it forms a loop with FL 23, in which case 895 will be correct after all.