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Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #375 on: February 13, 2019, 09:10:04 PM »

Unless NoVA isn't able to provide, it's entirely reasonable to think that a failed Queens deal would result in more jobs at the DC headquarters. Knowing the Crystal City area quite well personally, I can think of a surprising amount of land available for Amazon to develop if they chose to increase the proposed headquarters size there.
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Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #376 on: February 13, 2019, 11:07:01 PM »

...the local community has not exactly been pro-Amazon either. Do their voices not count?

The point of contention isn't Amazon locating in Long Island City. It is the fact that they are receiving an absolutely enormous tax break for doing so.

Count me as a member of the local community who is not pleased with that.
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Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #377 on: February 14, 2019, 01:20:20 AM »


The point of contention isn't Amazon locating in Long Island City. It is the fact that they are receiving an absolutely enormous tax break for doing so.

Count me as a member of the local community who is not pleased with that.

Well there's that too. But consider how the land value and land use might change in the neighborhood where they'd locate.
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Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #378 on: February 14, 2019, 06:43:31 AM »

The point of contention isn't Amazon locating in Long Island City. It is the fact that they are receiving an absolutely enormous tax break for doing so.

Count me as a member of the local community who is not pleased with that.

Well there's that too. But consider how the land value and land use might change in the neighborhood where they'd locate.
It is about NYC. Land values are already somewhat limited by how many digits fit on check.
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Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #379 on: February 14, 2019, 08:09:22 AM »

Why are there a bunch of posts quoting a post that was deleted?
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #380 on: February 14, 2019, 08:28:59 AM »

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/tennessee-very-interested-in-amazon-hq2-after-nyc-strife

Nashville appears to be interested in adding on to their initial deal for a mini HQ2 and turn it into a regular HQ2.

Also I read that Upstate NY is also interested if the NYC HQ2 deal continues to fail.

IMO Los Angeles could also work for an HQ2 instead of NYC.

They have their main HQ on the west coast. I think they want HQ2 to be entirely on the east coast.

Yeah but LA could work if they decide to move their main HQ away from Seattle if the need ever arises.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #381 on: February 14, 2019, 08:34:09 AM »

Why are there a bunch of posts quoting a post that was deleted?

What was the post in question about?
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #382 on: February 14, 2019, 09:03:27 AM »

Why are there a bunch of posts quoting a post that was deleted?

What was the post in question about?
A politician being an idiot.

If the poster deleted it, it'd be out of character for the poster, and if it was deleted by a mod, (a) that's overmodding and (b) that's crappy modding.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #383 on: February 14, 2019, 09:47:49 AM »

Why are there a bunch of posts quoting a post that was deleted?

What was the post in question about?
A politician being an idiot.

If the poster deleted it, it'd be out of character for the poster, and if it was deleted by a mod, (a) that's overmodding and (b) that's crappy modding.

No, I didn't delete it. Why would I delete the truth? (That AOC is clueless, that she's made statements in opposition to Amazon, and the company would naturally be more interested in going where it's welcome.)

One of the complaints I saw about Amazon is the possible gentrification in the area. I've never understood why gentrification is considered to be a bad thing, unless people are happy living in crappy neighborhoods and don't want to see them improved. It's awful if someone buys up a bunch of dilapidated houses and apartments and fixes them up into something nicer. Just horrible.

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2019, 10:14:52 AM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.

And it's actually two posts that aren't showing up.  I see one time-stamped last night at 9:10 and then the next one is time-stamped at 11:07.  There were two posts in between those two that are nowhere to be found.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #385 on: February 14, 2019, 10:33:21 AM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.

And it's actually two posts that aren't showing up.  I see one time-stamped last night at 9:10 and then the next one is time-stamped at 11:07.  There were two posts in between those two that are nowhere to be found.

Normally I'd agree with you but they are opening a satellite location in Nashville so apparently they're fine with it.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #386 on: February 14, 2019, 10:36:33 AM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.

And it's actually two posts that aren't showing up.  I see one time-stamped last night at 9:10 and then the next one is time-stamped at 11:07.  There were two posts in between those two that are nowhere to be found.

Normally I'd agree with you but they are opening a satellite location in Nashville so apparently they're fine with it.
"More cosmpolitan than Kentucky" is a pretty low hurdle to clear.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #387 on: February 14, 2019, 11:56:32 AM »

OK, looks like NYC is no more. Amazon was quick to respond...
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #388 on: February 14, 2019, 12:02:14 PM »

OK, looks like NYC is no more. Amazon was quick to respond...
They also said they're not reopening the search for another location.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #389 on: February 14, 2019, 12:10:31 PM »

RIP split HQ2. It was nice knowing that there was going to be two HQ2 locations plus the mini HQ2 in Nashville, but then NYC politics got in the way of that happening. Oh well, the south wins on this deal.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #390 on: February 14, 2019, 12:22:36 PM »

RIP split HQ2. It was nice knowing that there was going to be two HQ2 locations plus the mini HQ2 in Nashville, but then NYC politics got in the way of that happening. Oh well, the south wins on this deal.

Judging by the number of protesters, there's a fair number of people in NYC who also feel they won.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #391 on: February 14, 2019, 01:38:58 PM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.

Stereotype much?
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #392 on: February 14, 2019, 02:03:43 PM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.
Stereotype much?

I would agree that stereotyping isn't going to get us anywhere. Though Louisville does have substantially fewer post-HS degree holders than NYC, Seattle, or (particularly) Arlington. Their pool of talent wouldn't be as wide in Louisville. There also doesn't seem to be a great transit system in Kentucky like there is in Seattle, Arlington, or NYC.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #393 on: February 14, 2019, 02:07:30 PM »

One of the complaints I saw about Amazon is the possible gentrification in the area. I've never understood why gentrification is considered to be a bad thing, unless people are happy living in crappy neighborhoods and don't want to see them improved. It's awful if someone buys up a bunch of dilapidated houses and apartments and fixes them up into something nicer. Just horrible.
Rents.  While rising property values are good for homeowners, for people who rent apartments, they drive people out who can't afford (or don't want to pay) the increased rent.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #394 on: February 14, 2019, 02:32:15 PM »

One of the complaints I saw about Amazon is the possible gentrification in the area. I've never understood why gentrification is considered to be a bad thing, unless people are happy living in crappy neighborhoods and don't want to see them improved. It's awful if someone buys up a bunch of dilapidated houses and apartments and fixes them up into something nicer. Just horrible.
Rents.  While rising property values are good for homeowners, for people who rent apartments, they drive people out who can't afford (or don't want to pay) the increased rent.

Plus, where do all the original inhabitants go? To most, it's "not our problem", but I don't see it that way.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #395 on: February 14, 2019, 02:41:38 PM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.
Stereotype much?
I would agree that stereotyping isn't going to get us anywhere. Though Louisville does have substantially fewer post-HS degree holders than NYC, Seattle, or (particularly) Arlington. Their pool of talent wouldn't be as wide in Louisville. There also doesn't seem to be a great transit system in Kentucky like there is in Seattle, Arlington, or NYC.

Why would it have to go to Louisville? 

Why not the Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati?
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #396 on: February 14, 2019, 02:47:39 PM »

At any rate, if Amazon wants to abandon NYC, then I'd love to see them locate in Kentucky. We'll take the jobs NYC apparently doesn't want.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say they don't want to employ a bunch of inbred, semi-literate hillbillies.
Stereotype much?
I would agree that stereotyping isn't going to get us anywhere. Though Louisville does have substantially fewer post-HS degree holders than NYC, Seattle, or (particularly) Arlington. Their pool of talent wouldn't be as wide in Louisville. There also doesn't seem to be a great transit system in Kentucky like there is in Seattle, Arlington, or NYC.

Why would it have to go to Louisville? 

Why not the Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati?

Cincinnati itself tried to land HQ2, but the current state of public transit in the city pretty much killed that idea. I doubt northern Kentucky would have any more success.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #397 on: February 14, 2019, 03:02:08 PM »

Why would it have to go to Louisville? 
Why not the Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati?
Cincinnati itself tried to land HQ2, but the current state of public transit in the city pretty much killed that idea. I doubt northern Kentucky would have any more success.

So how much public transit does Amazon want … a full-blown heavy rail transit metro system?
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #398 on: February 14, 2019, 03:05:30 PM »

Why would it have to go to Louisville? 
Why not the Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati?
Cincinnati itself tried to land HQ2, but the current state of public transit in the city pretty much killed that idea. I doubt northern Kentucky would have any more success.

So how much public transit does Amazon want … a full-blown heavy rail transit metro system?
LIC and Crystal City had links to heavy rail and commuter rail, so probably something similar, yeah.
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Re: Re: Amazon HQ2: New York and Arlington, VA
« Reply #399 on: February 14, 2019, 03:08:39 PM »

So how much public transit does Amazon want … a full-blown heavy rail transit metro system?
LIC and Crystal City had links to heavy rail and commuter rail, so probably something similar, yeah.

Does the current Seattle headquarters have any rail transit service?
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