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When were the first doghouses installed

The 1960s
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1970, 1971, or 1972
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1973 or 1974
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1975 or 1976
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2018, 01:06:49 AM »

Any guesses on how old the older doghouse clusters are? And what brand?

From LI, NY. The type of doghouse on the left cluster, up until NYSDOT started using FYA, is/was the standard left turn signal on LI. The other older type is rarely seen.

https://goo.gl/maps/YuvC9fN8dGo

Google Maps is a bit fuzzy, I'd say either TCT or ICC. These aren't too old these are most likely from the nineties.
Yea, definitely ICC doghouse signals and seconded on the date they are likely from.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2018, 03:53:25 PM »

Philly, at one point had a motherload of old doghouses, they're now history. Now, Philly never has old doghouses, the only doghouses you'll ever see in Philly are Siemens, Peek, and McCain. Here's an old Philly picture from 1988, if you look closlely you can see what appears to might be an econolite bull's-eye square door doghouse. I believe these were installed around 1975. Now they're gone. If these were still up, I'd bet your ass I'd be down there within an hour to get pictures of it:
 
19880622 12 SEPTA PCC Girard Ave. by David Wilson, on Flickr

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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 05:15:49 PM »

How old would something like this be?
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8879856,-77.2816697,3a,37.5y,148.43h,93.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcheAhAV7sEBdBU9oh7CTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is a doghouse signal using 8 in. balls and 12 in. arrows.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2018, 05:48:46 PM »

How old would something like this be?
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8879856,-77.2816697,3a,37.5y,148.43h,93.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcheAhAV7sEBdBU9oh7CTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is a doghouse signal using 8 in. balls and 12 in. arrows.

Not too old, the 8in sections are LFE poly heads, and the 12in are poly Traffic Control Technologies heads, only a handful of years old. 
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2018, 05:55:50 PM »

How old would something like this be?
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8879856,-77.2816697,3a,37.5y,148.43h,93.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcheAhAV7sEBdBU9oh7CTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is a doghouse signal using 8 in. balls and 12 in. arrows.

Not too old, mid-1990s at the earliest, 2002 at the latest. Not impressively old like my Lower Merion doghouses, or signal man's marbelites. When I mean old doghouses, I'm looking from something that's at least forty years old.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2018, 07:08:36 PM »

How old would something like this be?
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8879856,-77.2816697,3a,37.5y,148.43h,93.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcheAhAV7sEBdBU9oh7CTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is a doghouse signal using 8 in. balls and 12 in. arrows.

I'm looking from something that's at least forty years old.

As said before, many people are learning, to an untrained eye, they do look old and warn out, because they are. The intersection does have a mix of manufactures. 
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2018, 07:45:28 PM »

How old would something like this be?
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8879856,-77.2816697,3a,37.5y,148.43h,93.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcheAhAV7sEBdBU9oh7CTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is a doghouse signal using 8 in. balls and 12 in. arrows.

I'm looking from something that's at least forty years old.

As said before, many people are learning, to an untrained eye, they do look old and warn out, because they are. The intersection does have a mix of manufactures.

True True, the signals themselves look way older than they actually are. It's especially harder to tell when a setup has multiple brands. This is why I prefer monotubes over span wires.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2018, 03:50:14 PM »

Here's one, yeah there used to be some awesome kick-ass eagles hanging from the poles, now they're replaced by yours truly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0033198,-75.2281303,3a,90y,359.15h,107.39t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0njLl3SgNb-truLl0Zwimw!2e0!5s20071001T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en&authuser=0

I don't understand why they replaced that, but they kept the doghouses in my pictures up. Move, the timeline to 2007 to see the old doghouse; On the split-end of the intersection you can see a right turn doghouse mounted on the side of the pole. Again, why'd they replace these, there was nothing wrong with the original setup.

The other old doghouse was not too far from this, but sadly it got replaced by my favorite thing in 2009:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0064383,-75.2324661,3a,37.5y,63.33h,97.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPSw67A4Xr2mo06utXdTvOQ!2e0!5s20071001T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en&authuser=

Something weird to note about this isntall, the mast-arm was never replaced, instead it was moved further along the intersection. Which is pretty dumb, PennDOT could've easily waited until they had the money for a pole-replacement. Instead those old double-arched mast-arms are teasing me, since they remind me so much of the old signals.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2018, 03:53:20 PM »

Based on the title of this thread, I inferred that it was about trafficlightguy's first doghouse for his pet! :-D :banghead:
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2018, 04:16:06 PM »

Based on the title of this thread, I inferred that it was about trafficlightguy's first doghouse for his pet! :-D :banghead:

Yeah hahahahaha really funny, it's "doghouse" as is the name for a 5-light traffic light with two columns for yellow and green sections on either side. One colum for the green and yellow balls, and the other column for the yellow and green arrows. The term is "doghouse" because the traffic light's shape resembles a doghouse, due to the red being on top, in the middle.

 


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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2018, 04:21:45 PM »

Based on the title of this thread, I inferred that it was about trafficlightguy's first doghouse for his pet! :-D :banghead:

Yeah hahahahaha really funny, it's "doghouse" as is the name for a 5-light traffic light with two columns for yellow and green sections on either side. One colum for the green and yellow balls, and the other column for the yellow and green arrows. The term is "doghouse" because the traffic light's shape resembles a doghouse, due to the red being on top, in the middle.
Sir, I am very aware of what a doghouse is relating to traffic control. Thanks for the definition! It was a joke...
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2018, 04:23:14 PM »

Based on the title of this thread, I inferred that it was about trafficlightguy's first doghouse for his pet! :-D :banghead:

Yeah hahahahaha really funny, it's "doghouse" as is the name for a 5-light traffic light with two columns for yellow and green sections on either side. One colum for the green and yellow balls, and the other column for the yellow and green arrows. The term is "doghouse" because the traffic light's shape resembles a doghouse, due to the red being on top, in the middle.

The first time I saw the term, I was amused by it as we have towers here in Illinois and Wisconsin.  Michigan only recently started using them here and there, having previously used the flashing red ball for a permitted left turn, and now going whole-hog into the FYA.  Locally, only Indiana and Ohio use them extensively, and Ohio more-so than Indiana (which seems to favor protected only lefts for some reason).
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2018, 04:26:21 PM »

Based on the title of this thread, I inferred that it was about trafficlightguy's first doghouse for his pet! :-D :banghead:

Yeah hahahahaha really funny, it's "doghouse" as is the name for a 5-light traffic light with two columns for yellow and green sections on either side. One colum for the green and yellow balls, and the other column for the yellow and green arrows. The term is "doghouse" because the traffic light's shape resembles a doghouse, due to the red being on top, in the middle.

The first time I saw the term, I was amused by it as we have towers here in Illinois and Wisconsin.  Michigan only recently started using them here and there, having previously used the flashing red ball for a permitted left turn, and now going whole-hog into the FYA.  Locally, only Indiana and Ohio use them extensively, and Ohio more-so than Indiana (which seems to favor protected only lefts for some reason).
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2018, 08:16:13 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2018, 08:44:28 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2018, 11:58:24 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2018, 01:39:00 AM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2018, 02:31:50 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).

You know what would've been 10x better, a 12-inch Crouse-Hinds Type M doghouse, with all the lights left incandescent! Or, an old Eagle tower signal with 5 lights
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2018, 06:32:27 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).

You know what would've been 10x better, a 12-inch Crouse-Hinds Type M doghouse, with all the lights left incandescent! Or, an old Eagle tower signal with 5 lights

Eagle inline 5 sections are pretty common in the midwest.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2018, 06:34:13 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).

You know what would've been 10x better, a 12-inch Crouse-Hinds Type M doghouse, with all the lights left incandescent! Or, an old Eagle tower signal with 5 lights

Eagle inline 5 sections are pretty common in the midwest.

I meant a really old flatback tower. You might be thinking of Durasig or Alusigs towers
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2018, 06:43:22 PM »

I'm not talking about Alusigs, Inline 5 section signal heads have been around for a while. Before the Alusig days. Most Midwestern states uses alot of Eagle, well probably because the company was from the Quad cities in Iowa and Illinois. 
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2018, 07:27:22 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).

Signals Unlimited has photos
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2018, 07:32:20 PM »

Now, back to Google maps, I gotta find more old doghouses

Why...?

Who knows, maybe I can find a Crouse-Hinds Art Deco doghouse
Closest I've seen pictures of was an inline-5 Crouse-hinds Art-deco signal, which is now gone (IIRC).

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it is still in service, I saw it a few months back.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2018, 07:39:27 PM »

There's a reason why I got so excited over those eagle flatback doghouses, it's probably because I'm so used to seeing boring modern McCains. I've said this numerous times, think I'm exaggerating: go on Google maps, drag your mouse, and do street view at any random point in the Philadelphia area, and tell me what you see.
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Re: First doghouse
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2018, 08:21:59 PM »

There's a reason why I got so excited over those eagle flatback doghouses, it's probably because I'm so used to seeing boring modern McCains. I've said this numerous times, think I'm exaggerating: go on Google maps, drag your mouse, and do street view at any random point in the Philadelphia area, and tell me what you see.

Why?
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