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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2019, 09:05:14 PM »

Good. Now they have to decide whether to make it a four-lane road, a six-lane road, and/or make it a toll road.

I think they probably will have to at least make the people getting off of I-70 pay a toll so that everyone just doesn't get on K-10 to avoid paying tolls on that last stretch of 70. Although K-10 is such a cluster from near the K-7 interchange to its eastern terminus that I'd probably still take 70 to not have to deal with the traffic.

But if you take I-70 through Kansas City, you have to deal with the cluster that is the Downtown Loop.  K-10 is the western leg of Kansas City's de facto east-west bypass.  But just because it's a bypass doesn't mean it isn't susceptible to congestion.

If KDOT gave a damn about shunpiking, they wouldn't have built I-35 east of Emporia.

I've always found it at least mildly surprising that it got built in the first place, considering you can count on one hand the number of miles it saves versus routing I-35 along the whole length of the Turnpike.  I can only imagine the suburban growth that would have likely occurred in Leavenworth and Douglas Counties but instead went to Johnson County because of the toll-free I-35 segment.
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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2019, 09:32:33 PM »

Good. Now they have to decide whether to make it a four-lane road, a six-lane road, and/or make it a toll road.

I think they probably will have to at least make the people getting off of I-70 pay a toll so that everyone just doesn't get on K-10 to avoid paying tolls on that last stretch of 70. Although K-10 is such a cluster from near the K-7 interchange to its eastern terminus that I'd probably still take 70 to not have to deal with the traffic.

But if you take I-70 through Kansas City, you have to deal with the cluster that is the Downtown Loop.  K-10 is the western leg of Kansas City's de facto east-west bypass.  But just because it's a bypass doesn't mean it isn't susceptible to congestion.

If KDOT gave a damn about shunpiking, they wouldn't have built I-35 east of Emporia.

I actually live in Johnson county east of the 435/35/K-10 interchange. Iíve found it quicker to take 70 and 435 rather than try to deal with the congestion on K10 once I get closer to the city. Maybe itís just how the traffic was at the times I was driving through.



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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2019, 08:27:53 PM »

KDOT has installed a queue detection system for the K-10/27th Street intersection. Here's the press release:

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KDOT making interim improvements on SLTís K-10 at 27th Street

On Sept. 11, the Kansas Department of Transportation implemented one of many interim improvements to address safety on the South Lawrence Trafficway (SLT) corridor while the Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement study continues to progress for the future freeway improvements.

KDOT installed a queue warning system in advance of the K-10/27th Street intersection, informing travelers of the presence of slow or stopped traffic using dynamic message signs. Travelers can anticipate advanced warning messages on three eastbound signs and four westbound signs.

The signs will notify travelers to slow down to help reduce queuing-related collisions. KDOT urges all motorists to be alert and obey the warning signs when approaching and driving through this intersection.

To stay aware of all road construction projects across Kansas go to www.kandrive.org or call 5-1-1.

For more information, please contact: Garry Olson, Traffic Engineer with the Bureau of [size=78%]Transportation Safety and Technology, 785-368-7297.
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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2019, 02:44:05 PM »

Variable Message Signs are always good in providing travel times and other information about the roadway in question. Here in Wisconsin, they are used extensively in the Milwaukee area, and there are some in the Madison area as well.
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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2019, 01:12:06 PM »

KDOT is proposing more improvements to the K-10/27th Street intersection:

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/city-government/2019/nov/03/lawrence-city-commission-to-review-proposed-safety-improvements-for-troublesome-slt-intersection/

  • Tweak the signal timing and detection
  • Add a right-turn lane from eastbound K-10 to YSI
  • Change traffic flow at the 27th/Wakarusa intersection - Westbound 27th must turn north on Wakarusa, southbound traffic must turn to K-10/YSI, Traffic off of K-10 may proceed north on Wakarusa or east on 27th.
  • Add a right turn lane for traffic coming out of YSI
  • Extend the existing westbound right turn lane from K-10 to Wakarusa/27th
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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2019, 03:09:23 PM »

Wikipedia says this intersection is planned to be converted into a diverging diamond interchange. Is that the long-term plan, with the short-term plan being the safety improvements listed?
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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2019, 03:49:12 PM »

Wikipedia says this intersection is planned to be converted into a diverging diamond interchange. Is that the long-term plan, with the short-term plan being the safety improvements listed?

The source for that claim was a June 2016 online article from that same newspaper, which in turn had gotten its information from an October 2015 KDOT proposal (.pdf warning).  As of May 2019, the below are called "Interim Improvements":

ē Queue Backup Warning System, Operational May 2019
ē Advanced Signal Warning System, Construction Spring 2020
ē Interim Intersection Improvements Study, Report Complete Fall 2019

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Re: KDOT announces K-10 South Lawrence Trafficway study
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2019, 03:24:06 PM »

Wikipedia says this intersection is planned to be converted into a diverging diamond interchange. Is that the long-term plan, with the short-term plan being the safety improvements listed?

The long term plan is for the western leg to be rebuilt to freeway standards. Whether there's a DDI for Wakarusa, or something else, is technically still up in the air.

(The study in the thread title refers to the environmental study, officially a supplement to the 1990 EIS for the west leg and 2003/2008 EIS for the east leg, for widening the west leg)
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