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Re: I-555 - Official End
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2019, 03:14:14 PM »


Someone needs to build a casino in Turrell, Arkansas. I don't think the numbers align like that anywhere else in the US!

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Gallup, NM used to have US 66 and US 666 ;)

And if there had been a 66 mph speed limit then you would hit the trifecta.
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Re: I-555 - Official End
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2019, 07:05:07 PM »

I like the part of I-555 near its junction with I-55, and the speed limit is 55, so you have 5's up the ass on all the signs. :sombrero:

Someone needs to build a casino in Turrell, Arkansas. I don't think the numbers align like that anywhere else in the US!

Not quite in Arkansas, and slightly off topic, but here is a Speed Limit 55 sign, next to an OH 555 shield...

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2019, 08:01:06 PM »

In Jonesboro for the weekend, has anyone heard about any legislative plans to extend 555 to Kansas City? Hopefully I would think they would make that IH 22 to add more funding to it, since a IH 22 interstate would be considered a high priority corridor from Birmingham to Kansas City for economic reasons in the Southeast, IMO
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2019, 08:14:12 PM »

None that I'm aware of, but that does seem to be a missing gap in the interstate highway system (Memphis <-> Kansas City), but at the same time it's a long stretch to ever see something built - that's at least 350 miles of construction.

EDIT - Now looking at it closer, it is only an added 10 minutes, 66 miles to take I-70 and I-55, which, for a long-distance traveler, would be more ideal than 5 hours, 40 minutes, 340 miles of arterial highway. So while not the -most direct-, it's not that far out of the way to warrant a whole new at least 350 mile interstate highway constructed. Ideally, it'd be nice, but in today's limited funding world, it's a low priority. If it was at least 30 minutes or longer added, I'd consider it to be an indirect and not ideal connection. Even a connection like Texarkana <-> Fort Smith can be made via I-30 and I-40 only adding 22 minutes, 90 miles. At that point, you begin to approach the point of being out of the way, but if an interstate highway connection is desired, it's available.
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Re: I-555 - Official End
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2019, 08:14:49 PM »

In Jonesboro for the weekend, has anyone heard about any legislative plans to extend 555 to Kansas City? Hopefully I would think they would make that IH 22 to add more funding to it, since a IH 22 interstate would be considered a high priority corridor from Birmingham to Kansas City for economic reasons in the Southeast, IMO

I've heard nothing of the sort.
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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2019, 09:57:30 PM »

In Jonesboro for the weekend, has anyone heard about any legislative plans to extend 555 to Kansas City? Hopefully I would think they would make that IH 22 to add more funding to it, since a IH 22 interstate would be considered a high priority corridor from Birmingham to Kansas City for economic reasons in the Southeast, IMO
Never thought about it before...but looking on the map...get this corridor to Springfield, MO to start, and should a direct Springfield-KC Freeway not come to pass, using I-44 West to Joplin/I-49 (that stretch of I-44 is mostly E-W on the overall diagonal US 66 replacement) and then I-49 is not a terribly indirect routing

Of course, MO & AR already have a couple of Interstate projects to build out/finish first

Someone start whispering this to the Elected Officials and Business Leaders in Walnut Ridge, Branson, and Springfield...
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2019, 10:38:37 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.

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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2019, 10:50:22 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2019, 06:50:39 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.

That's not a bad idea for a freeway (if MODOT had the money). Most of the road is already there (just have to limit access). I would guess they'd have to bypass Clinton and then also figure out how to tie the freeway into I-49 at the northern end (if they use MO-7) and I-44 (or US65) at the southern end.
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2019, 06:52:50 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.

That's not a bad idea for a freeway (if MODOT had the money). Most of the road is already there (just have to limit access). I would guess they'd have to bypass Clinton and then also figure out how to tie the freeway into I-49 at the northern end (if they use MO-7) and I-44 (or US65) at the southern end.

I don't really see it happening. 555 was mostly a gimmie for Jonesboro.
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2019, 06:56:43 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.

That's not a bad idea for a freeway (if MODOT had the money). Most of the road is already there (just have to limit access). I would guess they'd have to bypass Clinton and then also figure out how to tie the freeway into I-49 at the northern end (if they use MO-7) and I-44 (or US65) at the southern end.

I don't really see it happening. 555 was mostly a gimmie for Jonesboro.

I don't either. Especially now that they're putting in those J-turns (and also MODOT's financial situation). That should be enough for a while.
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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2019, 10:41:49 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.

That's not a bad idea for a freeway (if MODOT had the money). Most of the road is already there (just have to limit access). I would guess they'd have to bypass Clinton and then also figure out how to tie the freeway into I-49 at the northern end (if they use MO-7) and I-44 (or US65) at the southern end.
I think it would be cheaper to upgrade US 65 between Springfield and Branson as a full freeway before considering a freeway upgrade for the 13/7 expressway.
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Re: I-555 - Official End
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2019, 06:44:39 AM »

I like the part of I-555 near its junction with I-55, and the speed limit is 55, so you have 5's up the ass on all the signs. :sombrero:

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« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2019, 07:34:22 PM »

^ I wouldn't rule out a more direct Springfield - KC freeway eventually.  MO 13 is certainly getting a decent number of J-turns.


13 (and 7) is pretty much THE way from Kansas City to Springfield, but it wasn't built for all the traffic it sees.

That's not a bad idea for a freeway (if MODOT had the money). Most of the road is already there (just have to limit access). I would guess they'd have to bypass Clinton and then also figure out how to tie the freeway into I-49 at the northern end (if they use MO-7) and I-44 (or US65) at the southern end.
It would have to be US 65. The 44/13 interchange cannot be used as it would threaten the Dickerson Park Zoo, the Ozark Empire Fairgrounds and other established developments at that intersection. How I would do this would be to create a new freeway, starting near the Route WW & 13 intersection and running it southeast to 65 somewhere between Bluegrass Road & Valley Water Mill. It would be convenient for Branson travelers as they can bypass the 13/44 interchange that still has severe backups (and I-44 itself).
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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2019, 10:34:09 PM »

I think I-555 should be extended to Walnut Ridge. But it would be a really long term prospect (decades) for the US-63 corridor to be upgraded to Interstate quality from Walnut Ridge up to Willow Springs, MO and US-60.

Despite all the funding problems Missouri has, I'm certain we'll see US-60 upgraded to Interstate quality from Springfield over to Poplar Bluff well before anything significant is done to US-63 in Northern Arkansas and Southern Missouri.

Regarding the Memphis to KC idea, the I-55/I-70 combo is an angular route. But the US-63/US-60 combo to Springfield is a pretty curvy route due to all the hilly terrain.

I think something better is needed between Wichita and the Joplin/Springfield region. US-400 really stinks with all the bends and turns in its route in SE KS. US-400 to Dodge City and then US-50 on West to Pueblo may turn into a more important corridor over the long term.
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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2019, 10:48:30 PM »

In Jonesboro for the weekend, has anyone heard about any legislative plans to extend 555 to Kansas City? Hopefully I would think they would make that IH 22 to add more funding to it, since a IH 22 interstate would be considered a high priority corridor from Birmingham to Kansas City for economic reasons in the Southeast, IMO
Never thought about it before...but looking on the map...get this corridor to Springfield, MO to start, and should a direct Springfield-KC Freeway not come to pass, using I-44 West to Joplin/I-49 (that stretch of I-44 is mostly E-W on the overall diagonal US 66 replacement) and then I-49 is not a terribly indirect routing

Of course, MO & AR already have a couple of Interstate projects to build out/finish first

Someone start whispering this to the Elected Officials and Business Leaders in Walnut Ridge, Branson, and Springfield...

I have envisioned US 412 being an extension of I-22 to Tulsa, possibly to I-35. You have US 65 from Harrison to Springfield that could be upgraded to Interstate and additionally I-49 in NWA  that could carry you on to KC.
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« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2019, 03:01:33 AM »


Someone needs to build a casino in Turrell, Arkansas. I don't think the numbers align like that anywhere else in the US!
Gallup, NM used to have US 66 and US 666 ;)

Tulsa has I-44 and I-444. It also has I-244 and Future OK 344. One day the Creek Turnpike might be I-644 or I-844. No speed limits of 44 miles per hour, sadly.
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Re: I-555 - Official End
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2019, 01:49:47 PM »

I could see Interstate 555 (theoretically) being extended to US 67/future Interstate 57 in Walnut Ridge. Any extensions in any direction beyond Walnut Ridge (excluding future Interstate 57) seem like a fantasy to me.
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2019, 04:15:37 PM »

According to the strat plan from ArDOT, they are planning updates to US-412 across the northern part of the state.  East of Harrison and east of Springdale.  US-65 is already 4 lane from Harrison to Branson.

As for connectivity for Jonesboro to the future US-67 effort, ArDOT already improved AR-226 (Cash Highway) to support that activity.

As for a future Memphis-KCMO connectivity, ArDOT would rather you take US-412 to either US-64 via Branson or over to I-49 in Springdale.

US-63 from Hardy to West Plains, MO is a winding 2 lane, hard to pass route and with lots of local speed zones. I have driven it many times and should be avoided.

While it looks good on the map due to its great angle to reach Missouri, its actually quicker to take US-412 across.

I-555 actually ends south of Jonesboro even though Google Maps signs it all the way to AR-91. Google mapped it the way because AASHTO approved it, but ArDOT only signed what they acknowledge.
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2019, 08:56:06 AM »


US-63 from Hardy to West Plains, MO is a winding 2 lane, hard to pass route and with lots of local speed zones. I have driven it many times and should be avoided.

Last time I was over that way (2017?) ARDOT was replacing a couple of the narrow bridges and adding some passing lanes.
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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2019, 09:56:25 AM »

According to the strat plan from ArDOT, they are planning updates to US-412 across the northern part of the state.  East of Harrison and east of Springdale.  US-65 is already 4 lane from Harrison to Branson.

As for connectivity for Jonesboro to the future US-67 effort, ArDOT already improved AR-226 (Cash Highway) to support that activity.

As for a future Memphis-KCMO connectivity, ArDOT would rather you take US-412 to either US-64 via Branson or over to I-49 in Springdale.

US-63 from Hardy to West Plains, MO is a winding 2 lane, hard to pass route and with lots of local speed zones. I have driven it many times and should be avoided.

While it looks good on the map due to its great angle to reach Missouri, its actually quicker to take US-412 across.

I-555 actually ends south of Jonesboro even though Google Maps signs it all the way to AR-91. Google mapped it the way because AASHTO approved it, but ArDOT only signed what they acknowledge.


US 412 should be the preferred  way from an Arkansas point of view. I would love for I-555 and US412 to be an extension of I-22 to Tulsa and then to I-35. You are correct that US- 65 or I-49 would be the way to KC. Missouri upgrading MO 13 would tie into the US 65 option perfectly
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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2019, 10:04:24 AM »

According to the strat plan from ArDOT, they are planning updates to US-412 across the northern part of the state.  East of Harrison and east of Springdale.  US-65 is already 4 lane from Harrison to Branson.

As for connectivity for Jonesboro to the future US-67 effort, ArDOT already improved AR-226 (Cash Highway) to support that activity.

As for a future Memphis-KCMO connectivity, ArDOT would rather you take US-412 to either US-64 via Branson or over to I-49 in Springdale.

US-63 from Hardy to West Plains, MO is a winding 2 lane, hard to pass route and with lots of local speed zones. I have driven it many times and should be avoided.

While it looks good on the map due to its great angle to reach Missouri, its actually quicker to take US-412 across.

I-555 actually ends south of Jonesboro even though Google Maps signs it all the way to AR-91. Google mapped it the way because AASHTO approved it, but ArDOT only signed what they acknowledge.

It officially ends at US 49 on the SW side of Jonesboro
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2019, 04:20:35 PM »

I think I-555 should be extended to Walnut Ridge. . . .

This is the story I heard.  My Dad lived in the Springfield area for years and he said that the long term plans were to upgrade US60 to at least Sikeston, if not Paducah, to provide a fairly direct route from Springfield/Branson to Nashville.  Then I-555 was to be extended northward to US60 at Walnut Ridge to provide a direct route to Memphis as well.  Plans may have changed or stalled by now. . .this was years ago that my Dad told me all this.  However, I'm not sure why I-555 wasn't named I-22.
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »

I think I-555 should be extended to Walnut Ridge. . . .

This is the story I heard.  My Dad lived in the Springfield area for years and he said that the long term plans were to upgrade US60 to at least Sikeston, if not Paducah, to provide a fairly direct route from Springfield/Branson to Nashville.
The Springfield to Paducah part almost happened with the proposed Interstate 66, but that plan fell through years ago. The four-laning of US 60 east of Springfield was only completed ten years ago and the traffic isn't very heavy east of the Springfield metro, so those upgrades are very unlikely to come anytime soon.
US60's AADT gets cut in half (approximately) when US-63 splits from the route to go down to West Plains.
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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2019, 07:27:21 PM »

Someone  mentioned 555 tying in with US 412. I like the idea of extending 555 up to U.S. 412 and converting 412 into a interstate into Oklahoma. That would be perfect for extending IH 22 westward as we as a cheaper option IMO. Not to mention it makes a Jonesboro to Fayetteville drive 3 hours instead of 4.5 hours
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