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74/171FAN

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jmd41280

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 26, 2021, 07:43:45 AMPennDOT's YouTube page now has a video showing the rendering of the proposed DDI at I-70/PA 51. 


That is going to be such an improvement over the antiquated cloverleaf w/ no acceleration/deceleration lanes. The DDI 27 miles to the west of this interchange (at I-70/79 and US 19) has worked wonders over what used to be there.
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74/171FAN

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74/171FAN

(For PA 981) ADVISORY — NORVELT — FRIDAY - PennDOT to Hold Groundbreaking Ceremony

QuoteThe ceremony will open the Laurel Valley Transportation Improvement Project.

"Open" should be "begin construction"...
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famartin

Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
(For PA 981) ADVISORY — NORVELT — FRIDAY - PennDOT to Hold Groundbreaking Ceremony

QuoteThe ceremony will open the Laurel Valley Transportation Improvement Project.

"Open" should be "begin construction"...

I think they mean it will "open the project" (i.e., start it). But yes, somewhat confusing wording.

NJRoadfan

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 26, 2021, 12:08:20 AM
This is true. This stretch of I-78 was originally planned as a freeway for US 22 and built during the mid 1950s. The bridge itself was rehabilitated in 1985. And, whether it's 66 or 36 years old, the bridge needs major work to allow for extension of the ramps from Exit 35 (PA 143, Lenhartsville), which are woefully short.

Somehow PennDOT has enough funds to upgrade the old US-22 highway to Interstate standards INCLUDING the Schuylkill River bridge and interchanges, but has to toll this one smaller bridge?

famartin

Quote from: NJRoadfan on November 09, 2021, 04:53:30 PM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 26, 2021, 12:08:20 AM
This is true. This stretch of I-78 was originally planned as a freeway for US 22 and built during the mid 1950s. The bridge itself was rehabilitated in 1985. And, whether it's 66 or 36 years old, the bridge needs major work to allow for extension of the ramps from Exit 35 (PA 143, Lenhartsville), which are woefully short.

Somehow PennDOT has enough funds to upgrade the old US-22 highway to Interstate standards INCLUDING the Schuylkill River bridge and interchanges, but has to toll this one smaller bridge?

Obviously, they are putting tolls in locations where they will make the most money off non-locals...

ARMOURERERIC

Quote from: famartin on November 09, 2021, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
(For PA 981) ADVISORY — NORVELT — FRIDAY - PennDOT to Hold Groundbreaking Ceremony

QuoteThe ceremony will open the Laurel Valley Transportation Improvement Project.

"Open" should be "begin construction"...

I think they mean it will "open the project" (i.e., start it). But yes, somewhat confusing wording.

IIRC, 20 years ago, PennDOT contemplated an expressway type facility on this alignment, are they at least holding a 4 Lane row here?

74/171FAN

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on November 09, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: famartin on November 09, 2021, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
(For PA 981) ADVISORY — NORVELT — FRIDAY - PennDOT to Hold Groundbreaking Ceremony

QuoteThe ceremony will open the Laurel Valley Transportation Improvement Project.

"Open" should be "begin construction"...

I think they mean it will "open the project" (i.e., start it). But yes, somewhat confusing wording.

IIRC, 20 years ago, PennDOT contemplated an expressway type facility on this alignment, are they at least holding a 4 Lane row here?

No, PA 981 will remain two lanes, but it will be realigned in areas. (http://www.laurelvalleyproject.com/section-1/)
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Bitmapped

Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on November 09, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: famartin on November 09, 2021, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
(For PA 981) ADVISORY — NORVELT — FRIDAY - PennDOT to Hold Groundbreaking Ceremony

QuoteThe ceremony will open the Laurel Valley Transportation Improvement Project.

"Open" should be "begin construction"...

I think they mean it will "open the project" (i.e., start it). But yes, somewhat confusing wording.

IIRC, 20 years ago, PennDOT contemplated an expressway type facility on this alignment, are they at least holding a 4 Lane row here?

No, PA 981 will remain two lanes, but it will be realigned in areas. (http://www.laurelvalleyproject.com/section-1/)

I drove PA 981 through this project area again this past weekend. This project seems like it would be a nice improvement, although I wish they were shooting for a 55mph design speed rather than 45mph. Two lanes seem adequate for the traffic volumes.

The big problem I see with this project is its southern endpoint. It still means having to crepe along through Mount Pleasant to get to US 119. Building a new connection to US 119, or at least a new bypass road to get to PA 31 to use its interchange with US 119, would make this corridor a lot more useful.

Right now, there's not a great way to get from Connellsville to the Latrobe area. PA 982 is good between US 119 but PA 31 but sort of falls apart north of there as a through route. PA 981 will be decent once these upgrades are complete, except for the southern part by Mount Pleasant. I'd love to see some sort of connection built between the two routes.

Two lanes are probably adequate, although I wish they aimed for a 55mph design speed. It looks like they're going for 45mph here.



Crown Victoria


Rothman

Quote from: Crown Victoria on November 10, 2021, 01:07:20 AM
Pennsylvania should expect an additional $4 billion from federal funds over the next five years for roads and bridges:

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2021/11/08/infrastructure-bill-pennsylvania-roads-bridges-highways-penndot-funding-4-billion-dollars/stories/202111080106
Careful with that word "additional."  Transportation funds were up for reauthorization anyway.  The truth will play out in the FHWA apportionment notices.
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74/171FAN

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74/171FAN

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Roadsguy

Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 08, 2021, 07:00:43 PM
PennDOT - District 1 News: PennDOT Starts Audio Outreach for the Bayfront Parkway Project

PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Invites Public to Comment on I-81 Susquehanna Project
Oh here we go again, we now have tolls on i81!  :rolleyes:

Worth noting for anyone just skimming the thread and not reading the press releases: the I-81 bridge project linked above is for a relatively small bridge just below the New York state line, not the Wade Bridge in the Harrisburg area. That one has no replacement lined up and is still not being considered for tolling.
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74/171FAN

Quote from: Roadsguy on November 10, 2021, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 08, 2021, 07:00:43 PM
PennDOT - District 1 News: PennDOT Starts Audio Outreach for the Bayfront Parkway Project

PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Invites Public to Comment on I-81 Susquehanna Project
Oh here we go again, we now have tolls on i81!  :rolleyes:

Worth noting for anyone just skimming the thread and not reading the press releases: the I-81 bridge project linked above is for a relatively small bridge just below the New York state line, not the Wade Bridge in the Harrisburg area. That one has no replacement lined up and is still not being considered for tolling.

Thank you for mentioning that.  They are most definitely two different bridges.   :D
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snowc

Quote from: Roadsguy on November 10, 2021, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 08, 2021, 07:00:43 PM
PennDOT - District 1 News: PennDOT Starts Audio Outreach for the Bayfront Parkway Project

PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Invites Public to Comment on I-81 Susquehanna Project
Oh here we go again, we now have tolls on i81!  :rolleyes:

Worth noting for anyone just skimming the thread and not reading the press releases: the I-81 bridge project linked above is for a relatively small bridge just below the New York state line, not the Wade Bridge in the Harrisburg area. That one has no replacement lined up and is still not being considered for tolling.
I've been on 81 so many times, and they NEED to fix up the part from Scranton to NY line! It's very bumpy! :pan:  :banghead:
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Flyer78

About 9 miles from the state line to Waverly have been repaved - I think they only did travel lanes; Mill & fill-type operation, not full depth repairs. However, it is much better than it was.

Rothman

Quote from: snowc on November 11, 2021, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 10, 2021, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 08, 2021, 07:00:43 PM
PennDOT - District 1 News: PennDOT Starts Audio Outreach for the Bayfront Parkway Project

PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Invites Public to Comment on I-81 Susquehanna Project
Oh here we go again, we now have tolls on i81!  :rolleyes:

Worth noting for anyone just skimming the thread and not reading the press releases: the I-81 bridge project linked above is for a relatively small bridge just below the New York state line, not the Wade Bridge in the Harrisburg area. That one has no replacement lined up and is still not being considered for tolling.
I've been on 81 so many times, and they NEED to fix up the part from Scranton to NY line! It's very bumpy! :pan:  :banghead:
I thought they were finally working on that.
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74/171FAN

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74/171FAN

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74/171FAN

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 19, 2021, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on September 12, 2021, 09:02:33 AM
Wikipedia says that PA 235 has an unsigned concurrency with PA 17 and that they both end at US 11/15 in Liverpool

However when I pull the Perry County SLDs dated 12/31/20

Page 213 has SR 0235 ending at SR 0017.   I'd expect this anyway, since, for example, you'll see SR 0015 not really existing in these diagrams (as US 15 is entirely concurrent with US 11 in Perry County, so it will only be SR 0011).  In both cases, if PA 235 actually ended at PA 17, or if it didn't – the SR 0235 designation would end here, as PA 17 is a lower number of the same class, and so even a signed PA 17/235 concurrency would simply bear SR 0017.

Pages 253-254 have SR 0017 between SR 0235 and SR 0011 (US 11/15) but I can't tell how I would read if PA 235 is also existing (but not signed) along here.

Source:

https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/BOMO/RM/RITS/Annual%20Electronic%20SLDs%20by%20County/District%208/Perry%20Without%20Pipes.pdf


On this note, are there any other weird hidden concurrencies in PA like this?   For the record, I am not talking about not-signed-but-obviously-implied ones like US 30/PA 23 along the Lancaster Bypass, but here – why would PA 235 be extended along PA 17 just to end and not continue after?

I emailed District 8 on this (thankfully because I added a reminder to my phone for an unrelated subject that led me to being reminded of it), and they indicated to me that the PA 17/PA 235 concurrency is a Type 10 Map Error meaning that it does not actually exist.  PA 235 ends at PA 17 as it should.

I emailed District 10 because PA 588 has the same issue.  I got the same answer in that it is a Type 10 Map Error meaning that PA 588 ends at PA 288 instead of being concurrent with PA 288 to US 19/PA 68 in Zelienople.

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