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ARMOURERERIC

#2425
October 17, 2022, 06:48:56 PM  
I heard stories that the section of I-79 from Mt Nebo Rd to Wexford, sans the respective interchange over crossings we're actually built as early as 1969

CentralPAGal

#2426
October 18, 2022, 01:01:49 PM  
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 17, 2022, 01:30:41 PM
This does include the closing of the left-turn WB to PA 849 WB from US 22/US 322 WB.

Yes, it shows the median barrier going through the whole area. It explicitly shows US 22/322 WB traffic to 849 has to turn around at the US 11/15 interchange and get back on 22/322 EB to access it.
Clinched:
I: 83, 97, 176, 180 (PA), 270 (MD), 283, 395 (MD), 470 (OH-WV), 471, 795 (MD)
Traveled:
I: 40, 64, 70, 71, 74 (E), 75, 76 (E), 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 85, 86 (E), 95, 99, 270 (OH), 275 (KY-IN-OH), 376, 495 (MD-VA), 579, 595 (MD), 695 (MD)
US: 1, 9, 11, 13, 15, 22, 25, 30, 40, 42, 50, 113, 119, 127, 209, 220, 222, 301

Bitmapped

#2427
October 18, 2022, 01:23:54 PM  
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on October 17, 2022, 06:48:56 PM
I heard stories that the section of I-79 from Mt Nebo Rd to Wexford, sans the respective interchange over crossings we're actually built as early as 1969

PennDOT's pavement history web app shows parts of I-79 immediately north of Mt. Nebo Road were built in 1965-1966. The area closest to I-279 was 1969-1970. North of I-279 and south of Mt. Nebo Road were 1972ish.

Roadsguy

#2428
October 18, 2022, 02:44:33 PM  
Quote from: CentralPAGal on October 18, 2022, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 17, 2022, 01:30:41 PM
This does include the closing of the left-turn WB to PA 849 WB from US 22/US 322 WB.

Yes, it shows the median barrier going through the whole area. It explicitly shows US 22/322 WB traffic to 849 has to turn around at the US 11/15 interchange and get back on 22/322 EB to access it.

Indeed, the plans are posted early. Somewhat maddeningly, the project is so close to a proper freeway upgrade (albeit a fairly substandard one a la PA 28 in Pittsburgh), but there are a small handful of driveways left on the eastbound side. (Westbound has a barrier-separated one-way frontage road.)
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

ARMOURERERIC

#2430
October 18, 2022, 04:23:08 PM  
Quote from: Bitmapped on October 18, 2022, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on October 17, 2022, 06:48:56 PM
I heard stories that the section of I-79 from Mt Nebo Rd to Wexford, sans the respective interchange over crossings we're actually built as early as 1969

PennDOT's pavement history web app shows parts of I-79 immediately north of Mt. Nebo Road were built in 1965-1966. The area closest to I-279 was 1969-1970. North of I-279 and south of Mt. Nebo Road were 1972ish.

Yet, it did not open to traffic until 1977, another local road geek urban legend was that the ROW between Mt Nebo and Nicholson was actually acquired by the PA Turnpike Commission  in 1954 for the Pittsburgh to Erie extension.  I once saw an old road project report at Northland Public Library from 1955 showing a project to extend McKnight Rd up the pine creek valley to a trumpet exit between what is now 279 and 910

74/171FAN

#2432
October 23, 2022, 06:58:12 PM   Last Edit: October 23, 2022, 07:13:53 PM by 74/171FAN
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roadman65

#2433
October 24, 2022, 11:15:48 AM  
I thought Trenton was bad on US 1 at former I-95 in Oxford Valley directing motorists onto I-95 north, but the same PennDOT does it this time again.  Different district but same signing practice.
https://goo.gl/maps/gqLbki3PJUJBFvTt6

Direct motorists onto a freeway from a road that already is heading into a specific city.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

74/171FAN

#2434
October 24, 2022, 03:49:16 PM   Last Edit: October 24, 2022, 05:13:41 PM by 74/171FAN
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74/171FAN

#2435
October 25, 2022, 08:21:26 AM  
CE Expert System Update:

District 5: 
PA 115 Safety Improvements
PA 339 over Rattling Run CMP Replacements (resulting from Ida flooding)
Farmersville Rd Bridge over US 22
I-78 EB/PA 309 SB east of Lehigh St (Exit 57)

QuoteIncorporation of a hard shoulder running lane will be investigated.

Shiffers Rd over PA 33

District 8: 
Laudermilch Rd Bridge over Norfolk Southern RR  (was originally part of the P3 bridge project but not anymore)

District 9:
SR 2019 over US 22
QuoteBridge has restricted under clearance and does not meet current standards over SR 0022. Large vehicles have hit the underside of the bridge in the past.

District 10:
PA 208 over Turkey Run
PA 403 over US 22
QuotePA 403 over US 22 eastbound and westbound; East Wheatfield Township; Bridge Rehabilitation including beam repair by heat straightening.
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Bitmapped

#2436
October 25, 2022, 04:01:13 PM  
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 25, 2022, 08:21:26 AM
CE Expert System Update:
District 9:
SR 2019 over US 22
QuoteBridge has restricted under clearance and does not meet current standards over SR 0022. Large vehicles have hit the underside of the bridge in the past.

This bridge is actually missing its outermost concrete beam on US 22 westbound from being hit, and it had been patched before then. It has 14' 4" clearance so it's not particularly low.

74/171FAN

#2437
October 26, 2022, 03:21:50 PM  
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74/171FAN

#2438
October 27, 2022, 09:15:29 AM   Last Edit: October 27, 2022, 10:10:00 AM by 74/171FAN
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74/171FAN

#2439
October 28, 2022, 08:18:01 AM   Last Edit: October 28, 2022, 01:44:58 PM by 74/171FAN
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roadman65

#2440
October 28, 2022, 05:32:12 PM  
https://goo.gl/maps/SJBsLHDPYYmYnWvA7

Didn't this used to be an at grade intersection?
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Alps

#2441
October 28, 2022, 06:21:43 PM  

roadman65

#2442
October 28, 2022, 06:55:27 PM  
I do remember a second at grade along the route between PA 33 and I-80.  The Beaver Valley RIRO is too fuzzy in aerials to see if that had a break in the median.

I'm going to say that was the second intersection.  Being too close to the PA 33 interchange it would seem plausible that an intersection get closed off due to sight lines. 
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Roadsguy

#2443
October 28, 2022, 10:19:28 PM  
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2022, 06:55:27 PM
I do remember a second at grade along the route between PA 33 and I-80.  The Beaver Valley RIRO is too fuzzy in aerials to see if that had a break in the median.

I'm going to say that was the second intersection.  Being too close to the PA 33 interchange it would seem plausible that an intersection get closed off due to sight lines.

I took a look myself and it was definitely a full intersection. 1999 and 2004 show it most clearly; the northbound left turn lane is very clear in the former and the latter is in color, so you can see the break in the old grass median. (The same outline of the median break can be seen in all earlier imagery going back to 1970, the earliest that shows the expressway completed.) By 2005, the intersection was removed when they added the concrete jersey barrier and paved inside shoulders.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

74/171FAN

#2444
October 29, 2022, 07:39:38 AM   Last Edit: October 29, 2022, 07:42:04 AM by 74/171FAN
The at-grade on US 209 at Schafers Schoolhouse Rd is planned to become a RIRO at some point.

Other Friday News:

(For I-80, US 220, and PA 26)  PennDOT - District 2 News: PennDOT Issues Start-of-November Update for Local Interchange Project
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Bitmapped

#2445
October 30, 2022, 10:54:11 PM  
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 28, 2022, 08:18:01 AM
(For PA 724)  PennDOT - District 6 News: PennDOT Completes Route 724 (Schuylkill Road) Bridge Replacement, Reopens Highway Over Eckers Creek in North Coventry Township

The bridge might be open, but they didn't bother to take down any of the signage about the road being closed. The detour was still fully signed, including warnings on US 422 that PA 724 is closed. "Bridge Out" signage is still in place on PA 724 at River Bridge Road where the detour begins on the west end.

74/171FAN

#2446
October 31, 2022, 01:51:56 PM   Last Edit: October 31, 2022, 04:54:40 PM by 74/171FAN
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74/171FAN

#2447
November 01, 2022, 10:06:19 AM   Last Edit: November 01, 2022, 04:12:37 PM by 74/171FAN
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roadman65

#2448
November 01, 2022, 03:05:58 PM  
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 29, 2022, 07:39:38 AM
The at-grade on US 209 at Schafers Schoolhouse Rd is planned to become a RIRO at some point.

Other Friday News:

(For I-80, US 220, and PA 26)  PennDOT - District 2 News: PennDOT Issues Start-of-November Update for Local Interchange Project


I never understood why anyway those at grades were there in the first place.  It's a road between two freeways, it should also be freeway as well.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

74/171FAN

#2449
November 01, 2022, 03:20:44 PM  
^If I remember correctly, District 5 was trying to close the intersection completely back in 2016, but it did not go through due to heavy opposition.
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