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ekt8750

This pretty old button copy sign down by Philly International Airport is no more.

It has been replaced by this nice looking sign:

2017-07-13_06-40-19 by ekt8750, on Flickr

I'm glad they added the yellow left tab cause I've lost count of how many times I've seen people trying get on 95 South get confused as to what lane they need to be in and almost cause accidents as a result.


thenetwork

Quote from: ekt8750 on July 13, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
This pretty old button copy sign down by Philly International Airport is no more.

It has been replaced by this nice looking sign:

2017-07-13_06-40-19 by ekt8750, on Flickr

I'm glad they added the yellow left tab cause I've lost count of how many times I've seen people trying get on 95 South get confused as to what lane they need to be in and almost cause accidents as a result.

That sign also.belongs in the Department of Redundancy Department.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: thenetwork on July 13, 2017, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 13, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
This pretty old button copy sign down by Philly International Airport is no more.

It has been replaced by this nice looking sign:

2017-07-13_06-40-19 by ekt8750, on Flickr

I'm glad they added the yellow left tab cause I've lost count of how many times I've seen people trying get on 95 South get confused as to what lane they need to be in and almost cause accidents as a result.

That sign also.belongs in the Department of Redundancy Department.

Nothing wrong with this redundancy though. 

What I wished they did was add the airport to the BGS somehow, rather than just use the ultra-small sign on the post.

PHLBOS

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 14, 2017, 06:04:39 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 13, 2017, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 13, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
This pretty old button copy sign down by Philly International Airport is no more.

It has been replaced by this nice looking sign:

2017-07-13_06-40-19 by ekt8750, on Flickr

I'm glad they added the yellow left tab cause I've lost count of how many times I've seen people trying get on 95 South get confused as to what lane they need to be in and almost cause accidents as a result.

That sign also.belongs in the Department of Redundancy Department.

Nothing wrong with this redundancy though. 

What I wished they did was add the airport to the BGS somehow, rather than just use the ultra-small sign on the post.
The old sign dates back to 1985, when that stretch of I-95 (aka the missing link) first opened.

It appears that only the sign was replaced (& a match-in-kind in terms of the legend aside from the LEFT tab) and not the gantry & the small supplemental TO AIRPORT NEXT LEFT sign.  I do agree w/you that Airport should've been included on the ramp sign legend (either in addition to or instead of Chester).

Incidentally, PennDOT has been adding supplemental yellow LEFT tabs on existing left-lane exit ramp signage that didn't have such.  The northbound signage for I-676 (Exit 22) and the southbound signage for Columbus Blvd. (Exit 20) now have these yellow LEFT tabs (w/no black border).
GPS does NOT equal GOD

ekt8750

Quote from: PHLBOS on July 14, 2017, 08:59:56 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 14, 2017, 06:04:39 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 13, 2017, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 13, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
This pretty old button copy sign down by Philly International Airport is no more.

It has been replaced by this nice looking sign:

2017-07-13_06-40-19 by ekt8750, on Flickr

I'm glad they added the yellow left tab cause I've lost count of how many times I've seen people trying get on 95 South get confused as to what lane they need to be in and almost cause accidents as a result.

That sign also.belongs in the Department of Redundancy Department.

Nothing wrong with this redundancy though. 

What I wished they did was add the airport to the BGS somehow, rather than just use the ultra-small sign on the post.
The old sign dates back to 1985, when that stretch of I-95 (aka the missing link) first opened.

It appears that only the sign was replaced (& a match-in-kind in terms of the legend aside from the LEFT tab) and not the gantry & the small supplemental TO AIRPORT NEXT LEFT sign.  I do agree w/you that Airport should've been included on the ramp sign legend (either in addition to or instead of Chester).

Yeah I'm pretty sure that little sign dates back to when the Airport gobbled up the old Industrial Highway to expand a runway sending PA 291 over to Bartram Av. I think a TO [PHL Logo] and an "Airport" control over "Chester" would have worked here.


CapeCodder

#205
When 95 is routed onto the PA turnpike, what will the current 95 from 276-NJ be numbered? I would assume it would be an extension of I-295, but I could be wrong.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: CapeCodder on August 13, 2017, 12:02:40 PM
When 95 is routed onto the PA turnpike, what will the current 95 from 276-NJ be numbered? I would assume it would be an extension of I-295, but I could be wrong.

Correct. 295 will wrap around Trenton to the PA Turnpike.

ekt8750

Took my life into my hands and took a drive down Roosevelt Blvd and slowly but surely, the non reflective button copy signs that have been a fixture on this road are being replaced. This one for the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge for example:

20170909_204941~2 by ekt8750, on Flickr

There's a few others that have been replaced recently as well that I couldn't get pictures of.


Roadsguy

At least the new ones are post-Clearview, unlike the ones replaced along Woodhaven Road. Speaking of, were those signs on Woodhaven replaced by PennDOT or the city? I know the reason they got so bad was because each agency was arguing over who didn't have to replace them.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

qguy

Quote from: ekt8750 on September 10, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Took my life into my hands and took a drive down Roosevelt Blvd...

Tenderfoot! (sheesh) My heart bleeds for ya.  :-D

I lived near the road for 23 years. There was I time I commuted daily on it. Meh, it's city driving.

PHLBOS

Quote from: ekt8750 on September 10, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Took my life into my hands and took a drive down Roosevelt Blvd and slowly but surely, the non reflective button copy signs that have been a fixture on this road are being replaced. This one for the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge for example:

20170909_204941~2 by ekt8750, on Flickr
That's not a bad-looking sign.

Quote from: Roadsguy on September 10, 2017, 06:29:51 PMAt least the new ones are post-Clearview, unlike the ones replaced along Woodhaven Road.
Such is largely due to those replacement signs were already in the pipeline when the decision to pull the plug on the Clearview font was made; and, hence, grandfathered in.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

ekt8750

Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on September 10, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Took my life into my hands and took a drive down Roosevelt Blvd and slowly but surely, the non reflective button copy signs that have been a fixture on this road are being replaced. This one for the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge for example:

20170909_204941~2 by ekt8750, on Flickr
That's not a bad-looking sign.

Nope. In general the signs District 6 has been putting up since Clearview was yanked, have been pretty nice.

QuoteSuch is largely due to those replacement signs were already in the pipeline when the decision to pull the plug on the Clearview font was made; and, hence, grandfathered in.

Sadly that goes for the signage going up at the Betsy Ross Bridge interchange and extension. Those are some gross looking signs with Clearview that's poorly kerned, shields which are badly missized. I'm pretty sure they were done by a contractor that didn't give a shit.

ekt8750

#212
Shoulder running coming to The Blue Route and I-95 in Delco:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Blue-Route-Interstate-95-Shoulder-Driving-PennDOT-450780673.html

Quote"Constrained resources restrict our ability to add capacity to Philadelphia area expressways, but that does not mean we can't look at ways such as dynamic part-time shoulder use to alleviate the congestion," Richards said. "This technique is in use across the nation and has been shown to be a safe and effective way to improve traffic flow."

Translation: "Although we could easily add those two missing lanes to the Blue Route, we can't afford it so here's the next best thing."

Flyer78

Philly.com indicated it will be 4 years before construction begins.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/penndots-fix-for-traffic-jams-on-the-blue-route-and-i-95-let-drivers-use-the-shoulders-20171013.html

QuoteIt will likely be four years before the design for the changes is complete, PennDot officials said. Construction would follow.

PHLBOS

Quote from: Flyer78 on October 13, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
Philly.com indicated it will be 4 years before construction begins.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/penndots-fix-for-traffic-jams-on-the-blue-route-and-i-95-let-drivers-use-the-shoulders-20171013.html

QuoteIt will likely be four years before the design for the changes is complete, PennDot officials said. Construction would follow.
IIRC, such has been talked about for over 20 years.  Better late than never.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

Flyer78

I recall some coverage a few years ago that had one of the people that led the 2-lane I-476 compromise to backtrack and say they should build out the shoulders -- PennDOT basically said no. Will try to do a better search when I get the chance to...

It will be interesting to see southbound how it works with the semi-joke of a truck-climbing lane, which lasts for less than a mile; ignored by truckers; and forces a merge before the US1 interchange. 

roadman

Quote from: PHLBOS on October 13, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: Flyer78 on October 13, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
Philly.com indicated it will be 4 years before construction begins.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/penndots-fix-for-traffic-jams-on-the-blue-route-and-i-95-let-drivers-use-the-shoulders-20171013.html

QuoteIt will likely be four years before the design for the changes is complete, PennDot officials said. Construction would follow.
IIRC, such has been talked about for over 20 years.  Better late than never.
If the intent is peak hour use only (as is the norm in other places), it shouldn't take four years of design work.  IIRC, the I-93 Wilmington (MA) to Methuen peak-hour shoulder (aka breakdown lane) use implementation - which was a full build design, including proper turnout areas, that covered just under 20 miles of physical shoulder (breakdown lane) that was converted - took just over two years from start of design to completion of the work.
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

Alps

Quote from: roadman on October 13, 2017, 02:01:25 PM
If the intent is peak hour use only (as is the norm in other places), it shouldn't take four years of design work.  IIRC, the I-93 Wilmington (MA) to Methuen peak-hour shoulder (aka breakdown lane) use implementation - which was a full build design, including proper turnout areas, that covered just under 20 miles of physical shoulder (breakdown lane) that was converted - took just over two years from start of design to completion of the work.

It's PA, so I can believe it. No money for anything anywhere.

Mergingtraffic

I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

ekt8750


jemacedo9

PennDOT to Expand I-476 Ramp Meter Hours in Delaware County to Improve Travel and Safety

http://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/PENNDOT-Details.aspx?newsid=367

QuoteBeginning Monday, June 18, ramp meter hours at the following seven ramps will be operational weekdays from 6:00 AM to 7:00 PM and weekends from 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM:


- Route 3 East (West Chester Pike) ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- Route 3 West (West Chester Pike) ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- U.S. 1 ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- U.S. 1 ramp to I-476 North in Marple Township;
- Baltimore Pike ramp to I-476 North in Nether Providence Township;
- Baltimore Pike ramp to I-476 South in Nether Providence Township; and
- MacDade Boulevard ramp to I-476 North in Ridley Township.

This would be the four lane section...

MASTERNC

Quote from: jemacedo9 on June 06, 2018, 10:52:54 AM
PennDOT to Expand I-476 Ramp Meter Hours in Delaware County to Improve Travel and Safety

http://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/PENNDOT-Details.aspx?newsid=367

QuoteBeginning Monday, June 18, ramp meter hours at the following seven ramps will be operational weekdays from 6:00 AM to 7:00 PM and weekends from 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM:


- Route 3 East (West Chester Pike) ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- Route 3 West (West Chester Pike) ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- U.S. 1 ramp to I-476 South in Marple Township;
- U.S. 1 ramp to I-476 North in Marple Township;
- Baltimore Pike ramp to I-476 North in Nether Providence Township;
- Baltimore Pike ramp to I-476 South in Nether Providence Township; and
- MacDade Boulevard ramp to I-476 North in Ridley Township.

This would be the four lane section...

This makes sense, because that section often backs up on weekends too.  Guess all those NIMBYs in Swarthmore like breathing exhaust fumes that come from the gridlock that arose from not having those extra lanes.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: MASTERNC on June 06, 2018, 09:38:11 PM

Guess all those NIMBYs in Swarthmore like breathing exhaust fumes that come from the gridlock that arose from not having those extra lanes.

The highway opened in 1991. I'm sure quite a number of people there now weren't the nimbys fighting it over 27 years ago. They're just unfortunately dealing with the aftermath.

ixnay

Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 06, 2018, 11:13:34 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 06, 2018, 09:38:11 PM

Guess all those NIMBYs in Swarthmore like breathing exhaust fumes that come from the gridlock that arose from not having those extra lanes.

The highway opened in 1991. I'm sure quite a number of people there now weren't the nimbys fighting it over 27 years ago. They're just unfortunately dealing with the aftermath.

Main Line (Radnor and Lower Merion Townships) NIMBYs fought the Blue Route in the '70s.  When they gave up, the Swarthmore NIMBYs took over.

Don't know about the Cardinal O'Hara parents' NIMBYism... :confused:

ixnay

PHLBOS

Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 06, 2018, 11:13:34 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 06, 2018, 09:38:11 PM

Guess all those NIMBYs in Swarthmore like breathing exhaust fumes that come from the gridlock that arose from not having those extra lanes.

The highway opened in 1991. I'm sure quite a number of people there now weren't the nimbys fighting it over 27 years ago. They're just unfortunately dealing with the aftermath.
Yes and no.  Having driven through there on a regular basis; there are still plenty of seasoned residents of Swarthmore that were around during and participated in those Blue Route protests.
GPS does NOT equal GOD



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