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Started by planxtymcgillicuddy, November 27, 2019, 12:15:11 AM

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thspfc

Soccer announcers saying variations of "90-x minutes left" where x is the time on the clock, when all these games have at least 7 if not 10 minutes of stoppage time.


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Quote from: vdeane on July 05, 2026, 09:17:25 PMIn that case, I'm not sure where they'd get things like "confirmed by business 12 weeks ago" under the hours, or the photos in the "by owner" category.  Granted, I'm not sure who they would consider the "owner" of a rest area - probably someone in your central office, given that I doubt Google knows or cares about DOT org charts.

My guess is that it means that someone at the business confirmed the hours, but not that they were the ones who actually updated the information on Google. Sometimes when I look at listings it says "Confirmed by phone call 12 weeks ago" instead. But then that makes me wonder whose job it is to call and ask about hours of operation.

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Quote from: thspfc on July 05, 2026, 10:43:57 PMSoccer announcers saying variations of "90-x minutes left" where x is the time on the clock, when all these games have at least 7 if not 10 minutes of stoppage time.

DC United's radio announcer, Dave Johnson, has a different way of saying it: "X minutes left on the clock we're watching" as a way of saying there is some unknown additional amount of time left.
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I-57/Route 66 Fan

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When people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
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Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:34:32 PMWhen people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
Anaheim is an independent city. It's near a much larger city, but it has its own government.

I-57/Route 66 Fan

Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on July 06, 2026, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:34:32 PMWhen people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
Anaheim is an independent city. It's near a much larger city, but it has its own government.
I'm talking about people who treat Anaheim and Los Angeles like a Dallas-Fort Worth situation.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on July 06, 2026, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:34:32 PMWhen people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
Anaheim is an independent city. It's near a much larger city, but it has its own government.
I'm talking about people who treat Anaheim and Los Angeles like a Dallas-Fort Worth situation.

Who are these people you speak of?  That dynamic kind of still exists between Los Angeles, Santa Ana, Long Beach, Riverside and San Bernardino.  Anaheim usually gets left out of that conversation or is lumped in a suburb of Santa Ana (the Orange County seat).

I-57/Route 66 Fan

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 06, 2026, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on July 06, 2026, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:34:32 PMWhen people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
Anaheim is an independent city. It's near a much larger city, but it has its own government.
I'm talking about people who treat Anaheim and Los Angeles like a Dallas-Fort Worth situation.

Who are these people you speak of?  That dynamic kind of still exists between Los Angeles, Santa Ana, Long Beach, Riverside and San Bernardino.  Anaheim usually gets left out of that conversation or is lumped in a suburb of Santa Ana (the Orange County seat).
People treating Orange County and the Inland Empire like their own cities and not LA Suburbs. Also I am tired of people saying LA has one baseball and hockey team when in reality they have two, in that case New York has 2 basketball teams and 0 football teams.
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Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 08:52:08 PMPeople treating Orange County and the Inland Empire like their own cities and not LA Suburbs.

Suburbs are their own cities. They have their own mayors, and boundaries, and street departments, and everything.

The Inland Empire is absolutely its own thing. I have two friends that live there and they don't go to Los Angeles for anything in the regular course of their day to day lives. One of them lives in Riverside and commutes to San Bernardino and the other I believe lives in Corona and works all over the region (but as far as I know never in LA).
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Max Rockatansky

#15284
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 06, 2026, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on July 06, 2026, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 07:34:32 PMWhen people treat suburbs of parts of a city like an independent cities such as Anaheim and Brooklyn.
Anaheim is an independent city. It's near a much larger city, but it has its own government.
I'm talking about people who treat Anaheim and Los Angeles like a Dallas-Fort Worth situation.

Who are these people you speak of?  That dynamic kind of still exists between Los Angeles, Santa Ana, Long Beach, Riverside and San Bernardino.  Anaheim usually gets left out of that conversation or is lumped in a suburb of Santa Ana (the Orange County seat).
People treating Orange County and the Inland Empire like their own cities and not LA Suburbs. Also I am tired of people saying LA has one baseball and hockey team when in reality they have two, in that case New York has 2 basketball teams and 0 football teams.

I'd imagine a large percentage of Inland Empire don't view themselves and Los Angeles suburbanites.  Really though, why do you care?  The cities have grown together in Southern California but many have pretty distinct histories.

Even the cultural vibe in Orange County is very different than Los Angeles County.  What people want in Orange County tends to be very different (especially politically).  Orange County even pressured Caltrans to split District 12 off from District 7 in 1987.  The rationale was that District 7 was favoring what Los Angeles County wanted too much.

Going further out would you say the same thing for the Mojave cities like Lancaster, Palmdale, Victorville and Hesperia?

Molandfreak

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 06, 2026, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 06, 2026, 08:52:08 PMPeople treating Orange County and the Inland Empire like their own cities and not LA Suburbs.

Suburbs are their own cities. They have their own mayors, and boundaries, and street departments, and everything.

The Inland Empire is absolutely its own thing. I have two friends that live there and they don't go to Los Angeles for anything in the regular course of their day to day lives. One of them lives in Riverside and commutes to San Bernardino and the other I believe lives in Corona and works all over the region (but as far as I know never in LA).
I mean it isn't the case in the Inland Empire, but a suburb can still be subordinate to an adjacent larger municipality if it's a consolidated city-county government.

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kphoger

From what I've heard, people living in the Los Angeles suburbs don't really have a concept of their living in a suburb.  That is, in their mind, they don't live in Los Angeles.  This is different from other places I'm more familiar with:  residents of, say, Glen Ellyn certainly think of themselves as living—at least in some respect—in Chicago.

Maybe someone from the area can confirm or deny?

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Quote from: kphoger on July 06, 2026, 10:28:21 PMFrom what I've heard, people living in the Los Angeles suburbs don't really have a concept of their living in a suburb.  That is, in their mind, they don't live in Los Angeles.  This is different from other places I'm more familiar with:  residents of, say, Glen Ellyn certainly think of themselves as living—at least in some respect—in Chicago.

Maybe someone from the area can confirm or deny?

That is definitely a thing.  Many of the cities were once pretty spaced out and had varying economies.  The Inland Empire in particular grew a lot around agriculture.  Early San Bernardino for a time was a hub for the mines of Big Bear and Holcomb Valley. 

Long Beach was an oil and port city.  Los Angeles took a lot of steps to try to compete with Long Beach as a shipping hub.  The modern Los Angeles city limits show a pattern of annexation which was designed to bring it down the Los Angeles River towards San Pedro and Terminal Island.  San Pedro despite being annexed into Los Angeles still resembles a port city.

Santa Ana and Anaheim were also agricultural centers.  The name of the county (Orange County) is a giveaway that it was once an agricultural hub.

The development of the freeways in Southern California drove a lot of urban sprawl.  By the end of the past century much of the open land between Los Angeles, the Inland Empire and Orange County was filled in with residences. 

The sprawl is currently trending south from Riverside and Menifee towards Temecula.  Temecula has some roots in the wine industries.  South of Temecula the sprawl will probably start bumping up against San Diego eventually. 

To the north there probably won't be a companies infill to the Mojave.  Victorville and Hesperia were both railroad hubs.  Early Lancaster was heavily influenced by borax mining.  Early Palmdale was an attempt to get desert agricultural going but it more or less became another railroad hub.

Even Santa Clarita isn't just a "sprawl city."  Santa Clarita is comprised of several smaller towns like Newhall, Saugus and Valencia.  A lot of them were early agricultural and transportation centers (like the Stockton-Los Angeles Road).

Even San Fernando Valley developed very differently prior to the great Los Angeles annexation of 1915.  It wasn't until the Los Angeles Aqueduct and automotive era got going that Los Angeles held much sway north of Cuhuenga Pass.  Even by then some cities like Burbank had already incorporated.

Unlike Chicago, there is still living memory of when Southern California wasn't lined with wall-to-wall suburban homes.  Maybe the perception will change the older generations start to pass away?

Max Rockatansky

And I'll add, there is a similar phenomenon along San Francisco Bay.  Folks from places like San Jose and Oakland never have viewed themselves as suburbanites living in the sprawl of San Francisco. 

Scott5114

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Quote from: kphoger on July 06, 2026, 10:28:21 PMFrom what I've heard, people living in the Los Angeles suburbs don't really have a concept of their living in a suburb.  That is, in their mind, they don't live in Los Angeles.  This is different from other places I'm more familiar with:  residents of, say, Glen Ellyn certainly think of themselves as living—at least in some respect—in Chicago.

Maybe someone from the area can confirm or deny?

I wonder if this is because the county lines in Southern California make this sort of thing more convenient than they do in Illinois.

"I live in Glen Ellyn." "Where's that?" "Chicago."

vs.

"I live in Santa Ana." "Where's that?" "Orange County."
"I live in Jurupa Valley." "Where's that?" "Riverside County."
"I live in Oceanside." "Where's that?" "North County." (you're expected to know that means the north part of San Diego County)

If the counties don't help I think they're more apt to start describing how they relate to the freeways than the actual nearby cities...

Of course another part of that is that if you did lump all of this into "Los Angeles" or "San Diego" or whatever then both of those would lose all meaning. There are a crapton of these cities, and there are dozens and dozens of them with six-digit populations that you've never heard of. Go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_municipalities_in_California and sort by population descending and you're bound to see a bunch where you're like "That's a thing?"
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kkt

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 06, 2026, 11:08:53 PMAnd I'll add, there is a similar phenomenon along San Francisco Bay.  Folks from places like San Jose and Oakland never have viewed themselves as suburbanites living in the sprawl of San Francisco. 

Yes, a lot of those cities around the San Francisco Bay had their own identity, their own employment centers,
and their own business districts, before also functioning as part of the greater Bay Area. 

thenetwork

Recently, I've come across some online videos (for example, a police body cam confronting a suspect). Meanwhile the "poster" of the video occupies a portion of the screen to show their "reactions"  as the video is happening.

More often than not, they just sit there in the split-screen video adding no interjections or non-verbal reactions.


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Quote from: thenetwork on July 07, 2026, 07:18:48 AMRecently, I've come across some online videos (for example, a police body cam confronting a suspect). Meanwhile the "poster" of the video occupies a portion of the screen to show their "reactions"  as the video is happening.

More often than not, they just sit there in the split-screen video adding no interjections or non-verbal reactions.



I would guess it's to get around a copyright claim or something like that.

DenverBrian

Quote from: wxfree on July 04, 2026, 12:27:07 PMThe fourth of July

No other holiday is like that.  Not the first of January, the twenty-fifth of December, or the fourth Thursday of November.  It's like we established one of the highest of holidays and never gave it a name, so we just call it the date.  We should call it the Declaration of Independence Day, or something like that, maybe something a little shorter.
Or maybe Independence Day? Like it's called on most calendars?

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 06, 2026, 11:26:04 PMI wonder if this is because the county lines in Southern California make this sort of thing more convenient than they do in Illinois.

"I live in Glen Ellyn." "Where's that?" "Chicago."

vs.

"I live in Santa Ana." "Where's that?" "Orange County."
"I live in Jurupa Valley." "Where's that?" "Riverside County."
"I live in Oceanside." "Where's that?" "North County." (you're expected to know that means the north part of San Diego County)

I guess I don't understand.  Illinois has counties too...?

As a young child, I lived in New Lenox.  Where's that?  It's in Will County.

As a young adult, I lived in Wheaton and Carol Stream.  Where's that?  It's in DuPage County.



Quote from: wxfree on July 04, 2026, 12:27:07 PMThe fourth of July

No other holiday is like that.

Just wait till you learn about Cinco de Mayo.

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I feel like people haven't heard of the county names around Chicago nearly as much as they have in the LA/San Diego area.

I feel like the other major city metro area where people go by county name is Atlanta, although I may be biased since I have family there. I could also see the Virginia side of DC and Palm Beach/Broward/Miami qualifying.
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kphoger

Quote from: hotdogPi on July 07, 2026, 09:19:32 AMI feel like people haven't heard of the county names around Chicago nearly as much as they have in the LA/San Diego area.

My general impression from having lived in the Chicago area is that everyone knows where the counties are, but nobody knows where the county LINES are.

Like, everyone knows that Lombard is in DuPage County and Oak Park is in Cook County.  But Western Springs?  Nobody knows.  And everyone knows that Joliet is in Will County, but I bet half the people would get Bolingbrook wrong.

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I-55

Quote from: kphoger on July 07, 2026, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on July 07, 2026, 09:19:32 AMI feel like people haven't heard of the county names around Chicago nearly as much as they have in the LA/San Diego area.

My general impression from having lived in the Chicago area is that everyone knows where the counties are, but nobody knows where the county LINES are.

Like, everyone knows that Lombard is in DuPage County and Oak Park is in Cook County.  But Western Springs?  Nobody knows.  And everyone knows that Joliet is in Will County, but I bet half the people would get Bolingbrook wrong.

The only county lines a significant amount of people might know are Cook-DuPage (Co Line Rd along I-294) and Lake-Cook (Lake Cook Rd, which is also at northern terminus of I-294).

My friends from the area only bring up Cook County (annoyance with higher taxes) and never any of the others. Part of me thinks there's less county association in Chicago as suburbs within the same county have their own identities. Neighboring suburbs are different by being richer, poorer, ethnically different, religiously concentrated, more parks/nature, commercially or industrially focused, better school districts, presence of colleges, etc.

Are towns in the LA counties more similar to each other or do they differ significantly from their next door neighbors?
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Is there a way to opt out of pointless Verizon texts like "we received your payment" (the email confirmation of autopay is sufficient, although sadly, they now appear to have discontinued that) while still getting text notifications for things that are actually urgent?
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kphoger

Quote from: vdeane on July 07, 2026, 12:51:34 PMIs there a way to opt out of pointless Verizon texts like "we received your payment" (the email confirmation of autopay is sufficient, although sadly, they now appear to have discontinued that) while still getting text notifications for things that are actually urgent?

https://www.verizon.com/support/my-verizon-alerts-and-notifications-faqs/

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