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[webny99]

The Geno renaissance has been a great story, but Seattle is still an average team -- with what looks like a great rookie draft class -- that's playing with house money because of the Russ trade. Next week's Commanders-Giants rematch is probably the single most important remaining game in the NFC wild card picture. The winner is a near-lock for the playoffs, and the loser will be battling for the final spot along with the Lions and Seahawks.

[jgb191]

Very tough pill to swallow....

Today makes the sixth (6th) time this season the Texans blew a fourth quarter lead that has to be the NFL record most blown leads in a single season.  I'm suspecting something very fishy going on here....I wonder if the NFL is paying Lovie to sabotage my team like that.  Just painful heartbreaking to watch another choke-job in that final minute.

[Roadgeekteen]

With the Chargers win tonight, it is very important that beat that we beat the Cardinals tomorrow to stay alive in the playoff race.

[Ted$8roadFan]

With the Chargers win tonight, it is very important that beat that we beat the Cardinals tomorrow to stay alive in the playoff race.

I think the Pats can beat the Cardinals tonight. They’ll have to. Their remaining schedule (Raiders, Bengals, Dolphins, and Bills) is brutal (at least the last three are). 

[NWI_Irish96]

Very tough pill to swallow....

Today makes the sixth (6th) time this season the Texans blew a fourth quarter lead that has to be the NFL record most blown leads in a single season.  I'm suspecting something very fishy going on here....I wonder if the NFL is paying Lovie to sabotage my team like that.  Just painful heartbreaking to watch another choke-job in that final minute.

I was really hoping that the Texans would win a couple games down the stretch and move that #1 draft pick up north.

[gr8daynegb]

It would have been nice for Dallas to wake up before the last five minutes of the 4th quarter, but a characteristic of a good team is being able to win a close game even on a day when they didn't play their best. The recent alternation of excellent performances (Bears, Vikings, Colts) and shaky ones (Lions, Packers, Giants, Texans) makes me question the team's leadership, specifically McCarthy. Great coaches have their team ready to go from the kickoff every week, and that has not been the case. Dak has thrown 7 picks in his last 5 games. All that has to be fixed come the playoffs.

Giants 💀

McCarthy isn't blameless, but I'm looking more at the player leadership......mostly Dak.  This issue with the Cowboys predates his McCarthy's hiring where they play down to teams and the Cowboys have had the same core of start players in both McCarthy and Garretts tenure.  As a Packers fans watching our former coach it appears that McCarthy this season appears to finally be making adjustments that he never made in GB(feels weird seeing a run pass balance).  But watching Dak for games like yesterday it felt he was going through the motions.  If the Texans didn't self-implode (especially on 4th down in the 4th quarter) they would have for all purposes eliminated themselves from competing for the division.  Will make for an interesting playoffs with them as Superbowl or bust are both very possible.

[webny99]

Very tough pill to swallow....

Today makes the sixth (6th) time this season the Texans blew a fourth quarter lead that has to be the NFL record most blown leads in a single season.  I'm suspecting something very fishy going on here....I wonder if the NFL is paying Lovie to sabotage my team like that.  Just painful heartbreaking to watch another choke-job in that final minute.

I actually do give some credit to the Cowboys because previous Cowboys teams (think 2019) probably would've blown that game. Yes, the Texans did self-implode somewhat, but as a Texans fan I think I would feel way worse about the Browns loss. Could've had that one if not for allowing a brutal 21 of Cleveland's 27 points on defense and special teams, plus that was a home game and would have been a really cool moment to get off the schneid against Watson and end the Browns playoff hopes. I was rooting for it, but it didn't happen so at this point you might as well just coast to the #1 overall pick.

[jgb191]

I'll say this:  my Texans were indeed figuratively playing with house money and the weight of tons of bricks were on the home team (and the house nearly crumbled), which just shows that the Cowboys can't live up to their cult-followers' egos.  Even so, this was a winnable game that the Texans choked away.  If David Culley were still our coach, Texans would have taken the game.  But just seems like Lovie is trying to do his best to keep the air out of our team.

[triplemultiplex]

Like what?

Probably tweaking the line so they can dupe more rubes into getting addicted to gambling.  First hit is free; next one's gonna cost ya.

I know thspfc told me not to bother... but you literally think the house is willing to take a loss, not only to first timers, but also to sharks, just to get $20 from the soon-to-be second-timers?

Eh looks like it was all me talking out my ass.  The entire premise that the Lions suck and were going to get steamrolled by a first place team was flawed, as shown on Sunday.  So whoops.  Guess I'll have my crow with a nice glass of STFU.

[thspfc]

which just shows that the Cowboys can't live up to their cult-followers' egos.

If your favorite sports team being good feeds your personal ego, you have a problem.

[skluth]

It would have been nice for Dallas to wake up before the last five minutes of the 4th quarter, but a characteristic of a good team is being able to win a close game even on a day when they didn't play their best. The recent alternation of excellent performances (Bears, Vikings, Colts) and shaky ones (Lions, Packers, Giants, Texans) makes me question the team's leadership, specifically McCarthy. Great coaches have their team ready to go from the kickoff every week, and that has not been the case. Dak has thrown 7 picks in his last 5 games. All that has to be fixed come the playoffs.

Giants 💀

McCarthy isn't blameless, but I'm looking more at the player leadership......mostly Dak.  This issue with the Cowboys predates his McCarthy's hiring where they play down to teams and the Cowboys have had the same core of start players in both McCarthy and Garretts tenure.  As a Packers fans watching our former coach it appears that McCarthy this season appears to finally be making adjustments that he never made in GB(feels weird seeing a run pass balance).  But watching Dak for games like yesterday it felt he was going through the motions.  If the Texans didn't self-implode (especially on 4th down in the 4th quarter) they would have for all purposes eliminated themselves from competing for the division.  Will make for an interesting playoffs with them as Superbowl or bust are both very possible.

McCarthy's other problem is his teams are penalty prone. This was a problem with the Packers, especially on special teams; the Packers ST and penalty issues have continued under MLF. I don't follow the Cowboys enough to know if penalties were a problem before but McCarthy's Cowboys have continued that tradition of stupid penalties and are currently #2 in penalties behind the Broncos.

[jgb191]

which just shows that the Cowboys can't live up to their cult-followers' egos.

If your favorite sports team being good feeds your personal ego, you have a problem.

Exactly, and that's only half the story.  Then they (along with 90 percent of other NFL followers) downplay every other team's win over the Texans.  It seems like all the opponents that beat us get downplayed as if our team doesn't exist, but when we lost to the Cowboys, their fans completely rubbed it in us after the game.

Case in point:  When the Eagles beat my Texans by "only" twelve points last month, all the Cowboys fans around here were laughing at the Eagles; but yesterday after the 27-23 nailbiter those same Cowboys fans insisted on getting credit.

Something else I'd like to add:  before Sunday's game everybody kept telling me,
"Any high school team could easily crush your Texans".  After the game they all said: "Well, the Cowboys found a way to win!"

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

[thspfc]

which just shows that the Cowboys can't live up to their cult-followers' egos.

If your favorite sports team being good feeds your personal ego, you have a problem.

Exactly, and that's only half the story.  Then they (along with 90 percent of other NFL followers) downplay every other team's win over the Texans.  It seems like all the opponents that beat us get downplayed as if our team doesn't exist, but when we lost to the Cowboys, their fans completely rubbed it in us after the game.

Case in point:  When the Eagles beat my Texans by "only" twelve points last month, all the Cowboys fans around here were laughing at the Eagles; but yesterday after the 27-23 nailbiter those same Cowboys fans insisted on getting credit.

My mileage varies.

Something else I'd like to add:  before Sunday's game everybody kept telling me,
"Any high school team could easily crush your Texans".

There’s your issue, you’re probably listening to people who spout nonsense whether they’re talking about football or not. Every fanbase has those people.

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

Browns fans?

[gr8daynegb]

It would have been nice for Dallas to wake up before the last five minutes of the 4th quarter, but a characteristic of a good team is being able to win a close game even on a day when they didn't play their best. The recent alternation of excellent performances (Bears, Vikings, Colts) and shaky ones (Lions, Packers, Giants, Texans) makes me question the team's leadership, specifically McCarthy. Great coaches have their team ready to go from the kickoff every week, and that has not been the case. Dak has thrown 7 picks in his last 5 games. All that has to be fixed come the playoffs.

Giants 💀

McCarthy isn't blameless, but I'm looking more at the player leadership......mostly Dak.  This issue with the Cowboys predates his McCarthy's hiring where they play down to teams and the Cowboys have had the same core of start players in both McCarthy and Garretts tenure.  As a Packers fans watching our former coach it appears that McCarthy this season appears to finally be making adjustments that he never made in GB(feels weird seeing a run pass balance).  But watching Dak for games like yesterday it felt he was going through the motions.  If the Texans didn't self-implode (especially on 4th down in the 4th quarter) they would have for all purposes eliminated themselves from competing for the division.  Will make for an interesting playoffs with them as Superbowl or bust are both very possible.

McCarthy's other problem is his teams are penalty prone. This was a problem with the Packers, especially on special teams; the Packers ST and penalty issues have continued under MLF. I don't follow the Cowboys enough to know if penalties were a problem before but McCarthy's Cowboys have continued that tradition of stupid penalties and are currently #2 in penalties behind the Broncos.

Packers had bad special teams play more often than not during his term here. Penalties for most of his teams here wasn't a problem.  McCarthy's main issue in Green Bay was his in-game adjustments stunk to were non-existent, to the point his relationship with Rodgers(despite the hug for Packers vs Cowboys game this season) was getting toxic.

[jgb191]

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

Browns fans?

I've never heard of a Browns fan proclaim their team as "America's Team" (there is no such thing by the way).  I've also never heard any of them still celebrating 1996 like they do every year.

Cowboys fans hound me every year:  "We're the five-time Super Bowl Champions!  You're team has none!".  I've been hoping that after a quarter-century since their last Super Bowl title that they would have settled down a bit but no.

[Roadgeekteen]

Nice to get a Monday Night win, although it was ugly.

[gr8daynegb]

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

Browns fans?

I've never heard of a Browns fan proclaim their team as "America's Team" (there is no such thing by the way).  I've also never heard any of them still celebrating 1996 like they do every year.

Cowboys fans hound me every year:  "We're the five-time Super Bowl Champions!  You're team has none!".  I've been hoping that after a quarter-century since their last Super Bowl title that they would have settled down a bit but no.

When I hear that I start think Packers(13), Bears(9), Giants(8), Patriots(6), and Steelers(6) fans are like "How cute, here are all our championships"

[Big John]

I've never heard of a Browns fan proclaim their team as "America's Team" (there is no such thing by the way).  I've also never heard any of them still celebrating 1996 like they do every year.

Cowboys fans hound me every year:  "We're the five-time Super Bowl Champions!  You're team has none!".  I've been hoping that after a quarter-century since their last Super Bowl title that they would have settled down a bit but no.

Thanks to Modell, there were no 1996 Browns.

[Big John]

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

Browns fans?

I've never heard of a Browns fan proclaim their team as "America's Team" (there is no such thing by the way).  I've also never heard any of them still celebrating 1996 like they do every year.

Cowboys fans hound me every year:  "We're the five-time Super Bowl Champions!  You're team has none!".  I've been hoping that after a quarter-century since their last Super Bowl title that they would have settled down a bit but no.

When I hear that I start think Packers(13), Bears(9), Giants(8), Patriots(6), and Steelers(6) fans are like "How cute, here are all our championships"

According to Cowboy and Steeler fans, te pre-merger days (pre-1970) don't count.

[triplemultiplex]

According to Cowboy and Steeler fans, te pre-merger days (pre-1970) don't count.

They can be wrong if they want to.

[1]

Championships aren't as prestigious when there were fewer teams in existence, and I say this as a Red Sox fan where quite a lot of their wins were 1918 or earlier. That's not to say their value is zero, though.

[NWI_Irish96]

Championships aren't as prestigious when there were fewer teams in existence, and I say this as a Red Sox fan where quite a lot of their wins were 1918 or earlier. That's not to say their value is zero, though.

Would be a fun exercise to assign point values to championships equal to the number of other teams in the league that season. Current championships worth 32, decreasing back to the older championships being worth 11.

[gr8daynegb]

Championships aren't as prestigious when there were fewer teams in existence, and I say this as a Red Sox fan where quite a lot of their wins were 1918 or earlier. That's not to say their value is zero, though.

Would be a fun exercise to assign point values to championships equal to the number of other teams in the league that season. Current championships worth 32, decreasing back to the older championships being worth 11.

Curious how other sports would react if we used like let's say for baseball anything pre-Jackie Robinson didn't count.

[thspfc]

The one glaring downside of living in Texas is hearing it from them every single NFL season.  Whatever fits their narrative I guess.  The most obnoxious and fickle fans ever.

Browns fans?

I've never heard of a Browns fan proclaim their team as "America's Team" (there is no such thing by the way).  I've also never heard any of them still celebrating 1996 like they do every year.

Cowboys fans hound me every year:  "We're the five-time Super Bowl Champions!  You're team has none!".  I've been hoping that after a quarter-century since their last Super Bowl title that they would have settled down a bit but no.

My mileage varies.

[thspfc]

The offensive player of the week award has officially descended to meme status with Baker, who did next to nothing all night aside from one nice touchdown throw, winning it over Justin Jefferson (11 catches/223 yards) and Goof (27/39, 330 yards, 3 TDs no picks)