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OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« on: February 14, 2020, 12:29:14 PM »

Oklahoma DOT has introduced a new Welcome Sign design.



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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 12:39:44 PM »

Oklahoma DOT has introduced a new Welcome Sign design.



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Native America was nice, snarkproof, unmistakably accurate, looked great on our license plates and added a little intrigue for outsiders to perhaps stop and look into a bit more.  Imagine that.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 01:32:14 PM »

This is part of a statewide branding effort to make that star-thing a logo for Oklahoma in multiple contexts. Get used to seeing it more.

Native America was nice, snarkproof, unmistakably accurate, looked great on our license plates and added a little intrigue for outsiders to perhaps stop and look into a bit more.  Imagine that.

Yeah, but look at who's in charge. Care to guess why he has a problem with that?
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 03:04:14 PM »

This is part of a statewide branding effort to make that star-thing a logo for Oklahoma in multiple contexts. Get used to seeing it more.

Native America was nice, snarkproof, unmistakably accurate, looked great on our license plates and added a little intrigue for outsiders to perhaps stop and look into a bit more.  Imagine that.

Yeah, but look at who's in charge. Care to guess why he has a problem with that?

We've had an all-white supremacist state government save for a lesbian representative from Jenks for like, 12 years now?
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 03:17:04 PM »

They glorify their native history whereas the Sooners were the ones who rushed in and stole all of the last of the indian lands.  can't have it both ways.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 03:21:00 PM »

Will they still have those short stone monument-style signs also, or are they getting rid of those?
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 04:33:20 PM »

They glorify their native history whereas the Sooners were the ones who rushed in and stole all of the last of the indian lands.  can't have it both ways.

Why not?  Why can't they celebrate native history despite the fact that bad things were done in the past?
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 04:56:09 PM »

It bothers me that two of the "lobes" on that star thing are blue. They should have mixed things up a bit.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 06:07:42 PM »

They glorify their native history whereas the Sooners were the ones who rushed in and stole all of the last of the indian lands.  can't have it both ways.

Why not?  Why can't they celebrate native history despite the fact that bad things were done in the past?

Like Columbus Day ? ;)
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 01:55:19 AM »

Will they still have those short stone monument-style signs also, or are they getting rid of those?

Those have been there through several designs of welcome sign, so I'm guessing they'll stay put. Usually welcome-sign redesigns only affect the locations that aren't busy enough to justify the stone signs.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 05:58:23 AM »

It bothers me that two of the "lobes" on that star thing are blue. They should have mixed things up a bit.

They're two different blues.

We really should have two different commonly used words for blue, like Russian does. We do have cyan, but it isn't a basic color word.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 07:41:40 AM »

Oklahoma DOT has introduced a new Welcome Sign design.



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OKDOT had to change from "Discover the Excellence" after the grilling we on the AARoads Forum have given them about their signage.  :-P
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 12:28:39 PM »

Will they still have those short stone monument-style signs also, or are they getting rid of those?

Those have been there through several designs of welcome sign, so I'm guessing they'll stay put. Usually welcome-sign redesigns only affect the locations that aren't busy enough to justify the stone signs.

Studio Tulsa covered this yesterday, the "tombstone" signs are going away.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 01:47:12 PM »

That's bizarre. Most of them were in good repair and wouldn't need to be replaced as often as these will (sheeting has a finite service life, stone doesn't).
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2020, 01:53:23 PM »

That's bizarre. Most of them were in good repair and wouldn't need to be replaced as often as these will (sheeting has a finite service life, stone doesn't).

It's all about the brand, and the current director of tourism and recreation thinks the current ones look sad, and apparently he's not the source of the "tombstone" comment, he says that's what visitors tend to call them.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2020, 04:13:15 PM »

It bothers me that two of the "lobes" on that star thing are blue. They should have mixed things up a bit.

They're two different blues.

We really should have two different commonly used words for blue, like Russian does. We do have cyan, but it isn't a basic color word.

Whether the colors in question have the same name or not, they are nonetheless very close to one another, and so the design is too unbalanced for me.



The darker hues are even closer.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2020, 05:24:13 PM »

They’re the blue sky. Brown plains west, red dirt country in the center, Green Country to the east.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2020, 06:00:02 PM »

They’re the blue sky. Brown plains west, red dirt country in the center, Green Country to the east.

Good call, I was thinking about the same thing but was thinking others might think that was way too abstract.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2020, 11:03:54 PM »

I'm not digging this new design. The star motif is obviously an attempt to tie into American flag-waving "patriotism." It's not very original either. I think someone looked at the 1976 American Revolution Bicentennial logo and used that as a starting point. There's really nothing in the star design that invokes the state's tribal heritage. If the "Oklahoma" letters weren't slightly wacky looking the whole thing would have a pretty cold, corporate feel. The near rainbow sweep of colors comes close to looking like a statement about gay pride.

I really hate the "imagine that" tag line. Thankfully they're (probably) not sticking that on these border signs. The phrase "imagine that" is an open invitation to all kinds of jokes about Oklahoma:
"Meth lab explosion visible from satellite. Imagine that."

Also, I think it's blatantly stupid to get rid of the stone monument signs.
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2020, 02:33:56 AM »

I'm not digging this new design. The star motif is obviously an attempt to tie into American flag-waving "patriotism." It's not very original either. I think someone looked at the 1976 American Revolution Bicentennial logo and used that as a starting point. There's really nothing in the star design that invokes the state's tribal heritage. If the "Oklahoma" letters weren't slightly wacky looking the whole thing would have a pretty cold, corporate feel. The near rainbow sweep of colors comes close to looking like a statement about gay pride.

Reddit pointed out it's basically ripping off Uni Corporation's logo and strongly reminiscent of the City of Claremore's logo.

I really hate the "imagine that" tag line. Thankfully they're (probably) not sticking that on these border signs. The phrase "imagine that" is an open invitation to all kinds of jokes about Oklahoma:
"Meth lab explosion visible from satellite. Imagine that."

Even for it's intended purpose of getting people to be a little surprised about what Oklahoma has to offer, at face value, it's easily abused for an accurate but weird flex.  "Oklahoma has the world's largest outdoor furry convention.  Imagine that."
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2020, 03:29:29 AM »

Let's just call this what is is, a serious case of Texas envy. "Welcome to Oklahoma, the 'please don't leave us for Texas like all our teachers did' state. We have a star and everything!"
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2020, 09:48:16 AM »

Let's just call this what is is, a serious case of Texas envy. "Welcome to Oklahoma, the 'please don't leave us for Texas like all our teachers did' state. We have a star and everything!"

Someone forgets what our flag looked like before McCarthyism.

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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2020, 01:48:20 PM »

As mentioned upthread, it's part of a "rebranding":

https://www.ok.gov/
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2020, 09:59:13 PM »

The old signs definitely gave me chuckles when I saw them, but the one that took the cake was this one:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25435.msg2435013#msg2435013
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Re: OKDOT Introduces new Welcome Signs
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2020, 11:07:13 PM »

I'd say it's OK, just ok.
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