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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #175 on: September 16, 2020, 08:24:46 PM »

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I guess the new design shares the newer toyota models such as the RAV4, and Corolla.

What might bother me in the 2021 design is where the air vents used to be. That might look kinda odd.
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« Reply #176 on: September 16, 2020, 11:07:38 PM »

Iím kind of impressed that a thread about the Toyota Camry has made it to 8 pages.

Regarding SUVs supplanting sedans, after a couple weeks working in an auto shop Iíve seen more Highlanders and RAV4s (four today alone!) than I have Camrys and Corollas. Iíve also seen how badly the average American neglects taking care of their car...
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #177 on: September 17, 2020, 09:50:46 AM »

Still looking at cars?...it's time to pick something by now.

What might bother me in the 2021 design is where the air vents used to be. That might look kinda odd.

After a week with a different car, you get used to things seemingly out-of-place compared to before. You'd be surprised how quickly one gets comfortable to changes out of necessity after a short while, except for rare cases of actual physical discomfort.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #178 on: September 17, 2020, 10:30:27 AM »

Still looking at cars?...it's time to pick something by now.

What might bother me in the 2021 design is where the air vents used to be. That might look kinda odd.

After a week with a different car, you get used to things seemingly out-of-place compared to before. You'd be surprised how quickly one gets comfortable to changes out of necessity after a short while, except for rare cases of actual physical discomfort.
I took a break now I'm back to looking since I'm about to go to college and I'm prolly gonna get one in the next 3-9 months.

Also, COVID-19 pushed everything back
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« Reply #179 on: September 17, 2020, 12:08:41 PM »

Regarding SUVs supplanting sedans, after a couple weeks working in an auto shop Iíve seen more Highlanders and RAV4s (four today alone!) than I have Camrys and Corollas. Iíve also seen how badly the average American neglects taking care of their car...

Have you been able to get a sense of how common it is for the oil to be changed promptly?  This is something I have always wondered about for the vehicle fleet at large.  I don't pretend I've changed the oil bang on time every time, but at least when I run long, it's synthetic oil in the crankcase and it never goes darker than mahogany by the time I drain it out.  But when I walk in a parking lot, the oil spots are mostly black or very dark brown.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #180 on: September 17, 2020, 12:29:34 PM »

Regarding SUVs supplanting sedans, after a couple weeks working in an auto shop Iíve seen more Highlanders and RAV4s (four today alone!) than I have Camrys and Corollas. Iíve also seen how badly the average American neglects taking care of their car...

Have you been able to get a sense of how common it is for the oil to be changed promptly?  This is something I have always wondered about for the vehicle fleet at large.  I don't pretend I've changed the oil bang on time every time, but at least when I run long, it's synthetic oil in the crankcase and it never goes darker than mahogany by the time I drain it out.  But when I walk in a parking lot, the oil spots are mostly black or very dark brown.
Not yet, as Iím mainly front end of the shop, but Iíve noticed that many newer cars, including the two late-00s-designed Acuras Iíve owned, have service notices built into the computer that tell the driver when itís getting close to needing an oil change or other such maintenance. The two Acuras, and I assume this has since spread to Hondas in recent years, have had an oil life percentage message viewable after pushing the trip/odometer button three times. Rather, what Iíve seen has been more in the line of balding tires and worn brake pads, which are both more expensive to replace than an oil change and arguably just as catastrophic, if not worse, to the car and driver if they fail completely.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #181 on: September 17, 2020, 12:31:41 PM »

Regarding SUVs supplanting sedans, after a couple weeks working in an auto shop Iíve seen more Highlanders and RAV4s (four today alone!) than I have Camrys and Corollas. Iíve also seen how badly the average American neglects taking care of their car...

Have you been able to get a sense of how common it is for the oil to be changed promptly?  This is something I have always wondered about for the vehicle fleet at large.  I don't pretend I've changed the oil bang on time every time, but at least when I run long, it's synthetic oil in the crankcase and it never goes darker than mahogany by the time I drain it out.  But when I walk in a parking lot, the oil spots are mostly black or very dark brown.
Not yet, as Iím mainly front end of the shop, but Iíve noticed that many newer cars, including the two late-00s-designed Acuras Iíve owned, have service notices built into the computer that tell the driver when itís getting close to needing an oil change or other such maintenance. The two Acuras, and I assume this has since spread to Hondas in recent years, have had an oil life percentage message viewable after pushing the trip/odometer button three times. Rather, what Iíve seen has been more in the line of balding tires and worn brake pads, which are both more expensive to replace than an oil change and arguably just as catastrophic, if not worse, to the car and driver if they fail completely.


Which is why these aren't done. 
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #182 on: September 17, 2020, 12:54:17 PM »

Regarding SUVs supplanting sedans, after a couple weeks working in an auto shop Iíve seen more Highlanders and RAV4s (four today alone!) than I have Camrys and Corollas. Iíve also seen how badly the average American neglects taking care of their car...

Have you been able to get a sense of how common it is for the oil to be changed promptly?  This is something I have always wondered about for the vehicle fleet at large.  I don't pretend I've changed the oil bang on time every time, but at least when I run long, it's synthetic oil in the crankcase and it never goes darker than mahogany by the time I drain it out.  But when I walk in a parking lot, the oil spots are mostly black or very dark brown.
Not yet, as Iím mainly front end of the shop, but Iíve noticed that many newer cars, including the two late-00s-designed Acuras Iíve owned, have service notices built into the computer that tell the driver when itís getting close to needing an oil change or other such maintenance. The two Acuras, and I assume this has since spread to Hondas in recent years, have had an oil life percentage message viewable after pushing the trip/odometer button three times. Rather, what Iíve seen has been more in the line of balding tires and worn brake pads, which are both more expensive to replace than an oil change and arguably just as catastrophic, if not worse, to the car and driver if they fail completely.


Which is why these aren't done. 
Iím aware.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #183 on: September 17, 2020, 01:07:00 PM »

Not yet, as Iím mainly front end of the shop, but Iíve noticed that many newer cars, including the two late-00s-designed Acuras Iíve owned, have service notices built into the computer that tell the driver when itís getting close to needing an oil change or other such maintenance. The two Acuras, and I assume this has since spread to Hondas in recent years, have had an oil life percentage message viewable after pushing the trip/odometer button three times. Rather, what Iíve seen has been more in the line of balding tires and worn brake pads, which are both more expensive to replace than an oil change and arguably just as catastrophic, if not worse, to the car and driver if they fail completely.

I've owned/leased Hondas exclusively since about 2004.  My 2007 Honda Ridgeline, and every vehicle since then, has had the Maintenance Minder for oil changes and other maintenance work.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #184 on: September 17, 2020, 01:22:11 PM »

2018-2020 screen


2021 screen


I guess the new design shares the newer toyota models such as the RAV4, and Corolla.

What might bother me in the 2021 design is where the air vents used to be. That might look kinda odd.
How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #185 on: September 17, 2020, 01:31:59 PM »

How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.

This has been happening for 5-10 years now, depending on the make and model (even longer on some premium vehicles)...it's not going reverse course anytime soon.

If you're looking at new cars, you'll have to go very spartan to find vehicles without a multi-function screen on a dashboard.

My current car doesn't have a touch screen, so admittedly I like the feel of manual controls with some tactile feedback and specific noise. Though the little multifunction radio dial is a headache for navigating hundreds of albums and artists, it's mid-2000s tech that probably wasn't thinking about large collections.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #186 on: September 17, 2020, 01:34:41 PM »

I've owned/leased Hondas exclusively since about 2004.  My 2007 Honda Ridgeline, and every vehicle since then, has had the Maintenance Minder for oil changes and other maintenance work.

The Maintenance Minder just might be my favorite feature in my '18 Civic, quite honestly.

(Also partial to Hondas - I learned to drive stick in my dad's '99 Accord and then I was lucky enough to find a manual on the lot when I got the aforementioned Civic)

How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.

I have to agree...my girlfriend always rags on me for how my car has a smallish screen with buttons on either side compared to a large touchscreen in her car, but I really don't feel the need for a massive screen when I'm driving (or riding shotgun, for that matter).

The '18 Civic EX-T had a decent-sized touchscreen back when I was in the market, but I found myself preferring the more basic setup in the LX (as described above).
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #187 on: September 17, 2020, 01:35:06 PM »

2018-2020 screen


2021 screen


I guess the new design shares the newer toyota models such as the RAV4, and Corolla.

What might bother me in the 2021 design is where the air vents used to be. That might look kinda odd.
How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.
I get it, but it shows where the air vents used to be.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #188 on: September 17, 2020, 01:44:24 PM »

How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.

This has been happening for 5-10 years now, depending on the make and model (even longer on some premium vehicles)...it's not going reverse course anytime soon.

If you're looking at new cars, you'll have to go very spartan to find vehicles without a multi-function screen on a dashboard.


Which makes sense since any decent car has a back up camera. 

Complaining about screens in new cars these days is like complaining about keys back in the day.  "People should just crank the engine to start it."
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« Reply #189 on: September 17, 2020, 01:45:48 PM »

Not yet, as Iím mainly front end of the shop, but Iíve noticed that many newer cars, including the two late-00s-designed Acuras Iíve owned, have service notices built into the computer that tell the driver when itís getting close to needing an oil change or other such maintenance. The two Acuras, and I assume this has since spread to Hondas in recent years, have had an oil life percentage message viewable after pushing the trip/odometer button three times. Rather, what Iíve seen has been more in the line of balding tires and worn brake pads, which are both more expensive to replace than an oil change and arguably just as catastrophic, if not worse, to the car and driver if they fail completely.

I've owned/leased Hondas exclusively since about 2004.  My 2007 Honda Ridgeline, and every vehicle since then, has had the Maintenance Minder for oil changes and other maintenance work.


My 2004 TL and my wife's 2015 TLX have that feature. My wife's 2003 RSX Type-S does not. I don't know whether pre-2004 TLs (technically "3.2TLs," as 2004 was the first year of the third-generation TL where they dropped the numbers) had that feature, but I suspect they did not because the 3G represented a pretty significant redesign in almost all ways.
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« Reply #190 on: September 17, 2020, 01:46:15 PM »

2021 Nice car but clumsy design when they redid the screen.
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« Reply #191 on: September 17, 2020, 01:48:03 PM »

How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.

This has been happening for 5-10 years now, depending on the make and model (even longer on some premium vehicles)...it's not going reverse course anytime soon.

If you're looking at new cars, you'll have to go very spartan to find vehicles without a multi-function screen on a dashboard.


Which makes sense since any decent car has a back up camera. 

Complaining about screens in new cars these days is like complaining about keys back in the day.  "People should just crank the engine to start it."
I assume there will be a complete redesign for the 2023 model and hopefully they can fix all of that. This is just a mid-cycle refresh.
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« Reply #192 on: September 17, 2020, 01:55:20 PM »

How about no screens?
Its a car, not a living room.

This has been happening for 5-10 years now, depending on the make and model (even longer on some premium vehicles)...it's not going reverse course anytime soon.

If you're looking at new cars, you'll have to go very spartan to find vehicles without a multi-function screen on a dashboard.


Which makes sense since any decent car has a back up camera. 

Complaining about screens in new cars these days is like complaining about keys back in the day.  "People should just crank the engine to start it."

When I bought a new pickup truck in 2006, I went to some trouble to find one without a nav system so I could do without the screen. The truck didn't have a backup camera, even as an option. By the time I bought my Prius new in 2008, the backup camera was a required feature, as was the multi-function screen.
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Re: Toyota Camry
« Reply #193 on: September 17, 2020, 02:40:59 PM »

2021 Nice car but clumsy design when they redid the screen.

Ehh, the screen was pretty low before. Now it's closer to the dashboard and better in line with your vision of the road. Nevermind that insane level of glossy black on the old design. Before I retired from valet, I drove a few 2018 Camry rentals, and the area around the buttons that surrounded the screen was smudge-central. Mostly as a result of people trying to click one button but missing, or hitting one but having it not work.
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« Reply #194 on: September 17, 2020, 02:44:27 PM »

2021 Nice car but clumsy design when they redid the screen.

Ehh, the screen was pretty low before. Now it's closer to the dashboard and better in line with your vision of the road. Nevermind that insane level of glossy black on the old design. Before I retired from valet, I drove a few 2018 Camry rentals, and the area around the buttons that surrounded the screen was smudge-central. Mostly as a result of people trying to click one button but missing, or hitting one but having it not work.
So back to 2007 the screen was too low.
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« Reply #195 on: September 17, 2020, 03:19:57 PM »

2021 Nice car but clumsy design when they redid the screen.

Ehh, the screen was pretty low before. Now it's closer to the dashboard and better in line with your vision of the road. Nevermind that insane level of glossy black on the old design. Before I retired from valet, I drove a few 2018 Camry rentals, and the area around the buttons that surrounded the screen was smudge-central. Mostly as a result of people trying to click one button but missing, or hitting one but having it not work.
So back to 2007 the screen was too low.

Cars existed for 50+ years without seatbelts. Doesn't mean you can't rectify bad choices.

Sort of off-topic: Toyota has put screens above the dash before, but it mostly a stylistic choice. For example, we my father used to have a 2006 Prius (with navigation!) that had a screen that sat above the dashboard. It also had a backup camera and bluetooth. Very ahead of its time. It also had climate control buttons on the steering wheel, and the shifter was super unusual. Totally a cool car. Wrecked by a drunk woman in Southern Illinois in 2011.

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« Reply #196 on: September 17, 2020, 03:24:00 PM »

Sort of off-topic: Toyota has put screens above the dash before, but it mostly a stylistic choice. For example, we used to have a 2006 Prius (with navigation!) that had a screen that sat above the dashboard. It also had a backup camera and bluetooth. Very ahead of its time. It also had climate control buttons on the steering wheel, and the shifter was super unusual. Totally a cool car. Wrecked by a drunk woman in Southern Illinois in 2011.

For some reason, I was reading this as a collective "we" meaning the car-driving community, and generally describing the design of the vehicle rather than referring to an individual car. Then I get to the end where the design is "wrecked by a drunk woman in Southern Illinois in 2011," and I'm thinking "that is some very specific vaguing about some Toyota executive..."
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« Reply #197 on: September 17, 2020, 03:45:48 PM »

Sort of off-topic: Toyota has put screens above the dash before, but it mostly a stylistic choice. For example, we used to have a 2006 Prius (with navigation!) that had a screen that sat above the dashboard. It also had a backup camera and bluetooth. Very ahead of its time. It also had climate control buttons on the steering wheel, and the shifter was super unusual. Totally a cool car. Wrecked by a drunk woman in Southern Illinois in 2011.

For some reason, I was reading this as a collective "we" meaning the car-driving community, and generally describing the design of the vehicle rather than referring to an individual car. Then I get to the end where the design is "wrecked by a drunk woman in Southern Illinois in 2011," and I'm thinking "that is some very specific vaguing about some Toyota executive..."

I should probably use more specific pronouns in the future!
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« Reply #198 on: September 20, 2020, 09:11:31 AM »

Speaking of Camrys, I spotted this article about a well preserved 1986 Camry. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2020/09/20/a-well-preserved-1986-toyota-camry-is-essentially-the-playbook-for-how-to-sell-cars-to-america

It's been ages I didn't saw a first-gen Camry, here in Quebec, they've been eaten by road salt.
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