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US 58 -- Past, Present, and Future

Started by sparker, April 04, 2020, 12:56:29 AM

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Beltway

Quote from: sprjus4 on August 11, 2025, 12:59:26 PM
Quote from: Beltway on August 11, 2025, 01:30:30 AMRegarding what to do between there and Holland, one alternative would be to continue the 6-lane rebuild to the Holland Bypass, with access management.
Based on my experience, I don't think it quite warrants 6 lanes yet. According to VDOT, it only carries around 25,000 AADT and with only a few traffic signals, the roadway is adequate for now.
At least needs modernization with grade improvements in a few places, 12-foot lanes thruout, 10-foot paved shoulders, and long left turn and right turn lanes.
QuoteAny long range construction should be a relocation, which is what Suffolk shows on their long range plan. The goal isn't necessarily capacity, but rather creation of a limited access highway with free-flow.
The current widening covers an area with closer to 35,000 AADT, and more traffic signals. Bottlenecks are caused by trucks slow to accelerate out of the red lights, and the frequency of signals. That is not so much an issue west of the project.
If they want to bypass US-58, then why spend what $50 million on construction and $30 million on right-of-way for what they just widened?

The answer I know is LAP, which puts the city or country in the drivers' seat, and they may or may not make the very best decisions.

VDOT has increasingly embraced devolution of transportation projects to municipalities through its Locally Administered Projects (LAP) program, allowing cities, towns, and counties to take the lead on planning, designing, and delivering infrastructure projects -- especially those funded through state or federal programs.

Key features of VDOT's devolution framework
+ Locally Administered Projects (LAP):
+ Localities can manage projects directly, provided they meet VDOT's qualification standards.
+ Projects must be listed in the Six-Year Improvement Program (SYIP).
+ Local staff must complete the LAP Qualification Program, including online modules and in-person training.
+ Oversight Tiers:
+ Tier 1: Lower-risk projects reviewed by VDOT District Offices.
+ Tier 2: Higher-risk projects require Central Office oversight.
+ Project Requirements:
+ NEPA compliance
+ Title VI certification
+ Right-of-way acquisition per federal standards
+ Consultant procurement via VDOT-approved RFP processes
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Thing 342

Quote from: Beltway on August 11, 2025, 01:27:30 PMThe answer I know is LAP, which puts the city or country in the drivers' seat, and they may or may not make the very best decisions.

Mostly not, based on the abysmal on-time/on-budget statistics presented on VDOT's project dashboard: https://dashboard.virginiadot.org/pages/projects/projects.aspx

Rothman

At least in NY, seriously advocating for the handing over the relocation of a state-owned major highway to a locally-administered federal-aid project would be an idea that could get the program manager fired from NYSDOT.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Beltway

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Quote from: Thing 342 on August 11, 2025, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: Beltway on August 11, 2025, 01:27:30 PMThe answer I know is LAP, which puts the city or country in the drivers' seat, and they may or may not make the very best decisions.
Mostly not, based on the abysmal on-time/on-budget statistics presented on VDOT's project dashboard: https://dashboard.virginiadot.org/pages/projects/projects.aspx
Those numbers are quite good for delivery of highway projects. Bad numbers would be in the 30 to 45% or so range.

I am on the fence about the LAP programs. But frankly I haven't seen any real improvements in delivery. The locality may feel like it is better for them.

Quote from: Rothman on August 11, 2025, 10:55:49 PMAt least in NY, seriously advocating for the handing over the relocation of a state-owned major highway to a locally-administered federal-aid project would be an idea that could get the program manager fired from NYSDOT.
Locally administered with a long list of state and federal requirements that they must meet. Or lose that status.

At least VDOT is not considering tearing down any Interstate highways.
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http://www.capital-beltway.com

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