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"Freeway Entrance" signage

Started by deathtopumpkins, June 16, 2020, 10:22:52 AM

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ErmineNotyours

The first northbound sign on I-82 in Washington.  I assume the "Freeway entrance" sign is meant for bicyclists  leaving the bridge sidewalk and going onto the shoulder.  One of the more unusual examples in the state.


jakeroot

Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 06, 2020, 12:09:29 AM
The first northbound sign on I-82 in Washington.  I assume the "Freeway entrance" sign is meant for bicyclists  leaving the bridge sidewalk and going onto the shoulder.  One of the more unusual examples in the state.

I remember discussing that particular example on this forum before, but the consensus then was that it was a layover from when the northbound Umatilla Bridge was built in the early 80s. Although since replaced multiple times, from what I can tell.

StogieGuy7


jakeroot

Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 08, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Add Utah to the list - pretty common sight there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6678267,-111.9515004,3a,37.5y,311.87h,92.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spYLfMxxwqG1emq-rSW6rrQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I didn't think they were common in Utah, but I am seeing them a lot now. There still seems to be quite a lot of on-ramps without them, but it seems like they've become pretty ubiquitous with recent interchange upgrades.

StogieGuy7

Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 08, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Add Utah to the list - pretty common sight there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6678267,-111.9515004,3a,37.5y,311.87h,92.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spYLfMxxwqG1emq-rSW6rrQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I didn't think they were common in Utah, but I am seeing them a lot now. There still seems to be quite a lot of on-ramps without them, but it seems like they've become pretty ubiquitous with recent interchange upgrades.

You're right, they used to be quite rare - basically unheard of back in the 1980s.  However, they seem to pretty much be standard now, aside from I-15 in SL County.

US 89

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Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2020, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 08, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Add Utah to the list - pretty common sight there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6678267,-111.9515004,3a,37.5y,311.87h,92.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spYLfMxxwqG1emq-rSW6rrQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I didn't think they were common in Utah, but I am seeing them a lot now. There still seems to be quite a lot of on-ramps without them, but it seems like they've become pretty ubiquitous with recent interchange upgrades.

You're right, they used to be quite rare - basically unheard of back in the 1980s.  However, they seem to pretty much be standard now, aside from I-15 in SL County.

Yeah, they're everywhere. Only reason you don't really see them on 15 in SLCo is because UDOT tends to not use them as often at SPUIs - which make up the vast majority of I-15's Salt Lake County interchanges.

There are even a few Parkway Entrance signs on the Southern Parkway (SR 7) near St George - but unfortunately this wasn't done for the Legacy Parkway north of Salt Lake, which just gets regular Freeway Entrance signs.

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I saw it on a lot of interchanges along I-15 when I lived in Provo, Utah for six months in 2018.
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deathtopumpkins

Already had Utah on the list but that "PARKWAY ENTRANCE" sign is interesting, thanks for sharing!

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)
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StogieGuy7

Quote from: US 89 on September 09, 2020, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2020, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 08, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Add Utah to the list - pretty common sight there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6678267,-111.9515004,3a,37.5y,311.87h,92.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spYLfMxxwqG1emq-rSW6rrQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I didn't think they were common in Utah, but I am seeing them a lot now. There still seems to be quite a lot of on-ramps without them, but it seems like they've become pretty ubiquitous with recent interchange upgrades.

You're right, they used to be quite rare - basically unheard of back in the 1980s.  However, they seem to pretty much be standard now, aside from I-15 in SL County.

Yeah, they're everywhere. Only reason you don't really see them on 15 in SLCo is because UDOT tends to not use them as often at SPUIs - which make up the vast majority of I-15's Salt Lake County interchanges.

There are even a few Parkway Entrance signs on the Southern Parkway (SR 7) near St George - but unfortunately this wasn't done for the Legacy Parkway north of Salt Lake, which just gets regular Freeway Entrance signs.

Parkway Entrance! That's a new one.  :clap:

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mrsman

Quote from: stridentweasel on September 10, 2020, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 10, 2020, 12:31:45 PM
Parkway Entrance! That's a new one.  :clap:

Not entirely....  https://goo.gl/maps/at18d28DGeKzSKay6

This post from the GS Pkwy seriously brings up the qn on whether NJ should be added to the above list.  Many states on the list only have occasional "freeway entrance" signage, not every on-ramp like CA or WA.  In that contrext, NJ does a good job of putting a shield right at the on-ramps to its toll roads that are effectively freeway entrance signage, even if they aren't similar in size or shape to the CA examples and even though they don't seem to do it for the non-toll freeways.

Here's an example at NJTP in Bordentown:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1212542,-74.7065048,3a,75y,14.08h,76.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPysDQZQUmCLRVgMZxOxekw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPysDQZQUmCLRVgMZxOxekw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D262.96487%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

NJ should be added with a proviso that its only toll roads with unique signage.

roadfro

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).
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KCRoadFan

Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).

Hard to believe Minnesota hasn't been mentioned. With me having often been to that state, that was the state that came to mind right away for me when I saw the thread title.

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mrsman

Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 11, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).

Hard to believe Minnesota hasn't been mentioned. With me having often been to that state, that was the state that came to mind right away for me when I saw the thread title.

How frequent are the signs there?  Do you have an example that you can post?

For many states on the above list, the signage is not consistent and it's a bit of a surprise to find one.

StogieGuy7

Quote from: stridentweasel on September 10, 2020, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 10, 2020, 12:31:45 PM
Parkway Entrance! That's a new one.  :clap:

Not entirely....  https://goo.gl/maps/at18d28DGeKzSKay6

OK, technically you're right. But that's not what I meant - I was referring to the format/template/use of that sign.  The entrance ramp signs to the GSP and NJ Turnpike are specific to those tollways. As opposed to the "Freeway Entrance" signs which are spec. 

deathtopumpkins

Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).

Let's see...

Uses standalone freeway entrance signs consistently:

  • Utah (freeway/parkway)
  • Washington
  • Montana

Uses freeway entrance signs with shields consistently:

  • California (freeway/parkway)
  • Nevada

Uses custom equivalent signs:

  • New Jersey (parkway entrance)

Has at least one use of a standard freeway entrance sign:

  • Michigan
  • Colorado (with shields)
  • Illinois (with downward arrows)
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • New York (freeway/parkway)
  • West Virginia
  • North Carolina (with shields)
  • Texas
  • Connecticut (with shields)
  • British Columbia

Other weird one-offs:

  • Massachusetts (BGS)
  • Indiana (overhead, mixed-case, with shields)

Uses shields with downward arrows, but no freeway entrance sign:

  • Ohio
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deathtopumpkins

Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 11, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
Hard to believe Minnesota hasn't been mentioned. With me having often been to that state, that was the state that came to mind right away for me when I saw the thread title.

Minnesota has been mentioned multiple times but no one has yet provided an example and I haven't found one anywhere. I'll add it to the list if you have a picture of streetview link of one.
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kphoger

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on September 17, 2020, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 11, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
Hard to believe Minnesota hasn't been mentioned. With me having often been to that state, that was the state that came to mind right away for me when I saw the thread title.

Minnesota has been mentioned multiple times but no one has yet provided an example and I haven't found one anywhere. I'll add it to the list if you have a picture of streetview link of one.

It isn't consistent by any stretch of the imagination.  But check out I-35W.

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mrsman

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on September 17, 2020, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).

Let's see...

Uses standalone freeway entrance signs consistently:

  • Utah (freeway/parkway)
  • Washington
  • Montana

Uses freeway entrance signs with shields consistently:

  • California (freeway/parkway)
  • Nevada

Uses custom equivalent signs:

  • New Jersey (parkway entrance)

Has at least one use of a standard freeway entrance sign:

  • Michigan
  • Colorado (with shields)
  • Illinois (with downward arrows)
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • New York (freeway/parkway)
  • West Virginia
  • North Carolina (with shields)
  • Texas
  • Connecticut (with shields)
  • British Columbia

Other weird one-offs:

  • Massachusetts (BGS)
  • Indiana (overhead, mixed-case, with shields)

Uses shields with downward arrows, but no freeway entrance sign:

  • Ohio

Wisconsin has not been placed on the second list.

deathtopumpkins

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on September 17, 2020, 10:53:03 AM
Uses standalone freeway entrance signs consistently:

  • Utah (freeway/parkway)
  • Washington
  • Montana

Uses freeway entrance signs with shields consistently:

  • California (freeway/parkway)
  • Nevada

Uses custom equivalent signs:

  • New Jersey (parkway entrance)

Has at least one use of a standard freeway entrance sign:

  • Michigan
  • Colorado (with shields)
  • Illinois (with downward arrows)
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • New York (freeway/parkway)
  • West Virginia
  • North Carolina (with shields)
  • Texas
  • Connecticut (with shields)
  • British Columbia
  • Wisconsin
  • Minnesota

Other weird one-offs:

  • Massachusetts (BGS)
  • Indiana (overhead, mixed-case, with shields)

Uses shields with downward arrows, but no freeway entrance sign:

  • Ohio

Updated to add Minnesota and Wisconsin, both under the "at least one, but not consistent" category. Thanks!
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jakeroot

I'm still not sure how I feel about Utah being in that first category. Many new interchanges have them, but there's also still a lot that don't. US89 mentioned how many of the new-ish SPUIs along I-15 in SLC do not have them at all.

I guess maybe it needs its own category. Something like "increasing consistency". Illinois and maybe Minnesota could be in this category too.

sprjus4

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on September 17, 2020, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 17, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
List is now up to:

  • California
  • Washington
  • Nevada
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Wisconsin
  • Montana
  • Michigan
  • Colorado (one example that has since been removed)
  • North Carolina
  • Utah
  • Texas
  • British Columbia (black/white)
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Indiana
  • Massachusetts (oversized, essentially exit gore signs)

The list might be more interesting if it were subdivided into states that are consistent versus inconsistent in implementing Freeway Entrance signs.

Another interesting list subdivision would be states that use just the standard sign (e.g. Utah), versus states using a Freeway Entrance sign package (sign plus route shield & downward arrow, e.g. California & Nevada), versus states with some BGS or other variant (e.g Massachusetts).

Let's see...

Uses standalone freeway entrance signs consistently:

  • Utah (freeway/parkway)
  • Washington
  • Montana

Uses freeway entrance signs with shields consistently:

  • California (freeway/parkway)
  • Nevada

Uses custom equivalent signs:

  • New Jersey (parkway entrance)

Has at least one use of a standard freeway entrance sign:

  • Michigan
  • Colorado (with shields)
  • Illinois (with downward arrows)
  • Oregon
  • New Mexico
  • New York (freeway/parkway)
  • West Virginia
  • North Carolina (with shields)
  • Texas
  • Connecticut (with shields)
  • British Columbia

Other weird one-offs:

  • Massachusetts (BGS)
  • Indiana (overhead, mixed-case, with shields)

Uses shields with downward arrows, but no freeway entrance sign:

  • Ohio
West Virginia posts quite frequently, not just once or twice.

jakeroot

Quote from: sprjus4 on September 17, 2020, 06:59:38 PM
West Virginia posts quite frequently, not just once or twice.

Along with Utah, Illinois, and maybe Minnesota, could West Virginia then be included in an "increasing frequency" tab? I don't know how often they've been used in the past.

sample: Increasing frequency:


  • Utah
  • Illinois
  • West Virginia
  • Minnesota(?)

There should be something between "consistently" and "at least one example".

hobsini2

3 things I am noticing in Illinois with the downstate signs is...
1) Usually at the entrance to folded diamonds like this at Route 1 onto I-64.
2) They are only facing the direction where the driver needs to make a left turn onto the ramp.
3) Huge ass sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2355144,-88.0011521,3a,75y,0.28h,77.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBX_N4xhr92tj3EGL9Sh3UQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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