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Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« on: October 18, 2020, 11:26:25 AM »

The Saw Mill River Parkway in New York has its quirks and differences. But one of the most annoying things about it is Exit 32 Northbound in Chappaqua. The exit is narrow and at a ridiculously sharp angle to the parkway, and immediately after an underpass too. Keep in mind this is a 55 MPH zone, with many going 60 or 65 anyways. Most taking the exit would need to slow down using the parkway as a deceleration lane. NYSDOT needs to fix this ASAP imo. Things like these are the drawbacks of being a hybrid freeway: high speeds, but roadways that aren’t exactly designed to accommodate those high speeds, which rings true for other parts of the SMRP too. I took these photos on March 1st, 2020.



GSV link (hope I linked this correctly): https://bit.ly/2HdAVBp
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 01:37:46 PM »

The Saw Mill is an extremely substandard road, even by NY parkway standards. Entrance/Exit ramps like this are all too common (SB Ashford Ave exit comes to mind)

If NYSDOT ever upgrades the parkway (they won't) the focus should really be on eliminating the at grade intersections first, and raising the roadway in Pleasantville. The substandard entrances and exits while dangerous aren't as important as these two things.
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 01:45:09 PM »

I also take issue with NYSDOT's design for exit 37, Kisco Ave, which was rebuilt recently. Despite the excessively long acceleration lanes, they put yield signs on the entrances. This really bothers me because putting yield signs up for these situations is actually dangerous. If drivers can't trust a yield sign to actually mean slow down and stop, it devalues the control at the other locations where it's necessary (which is often on NY Parkways). The Palisades Parkway is especially guilty of these unnecessary yield signs, mixed in with yield signs that are actually warranted.

There are also no advisory speed warnings for exit 37 which has a sharp 25 or 30 mph curve. With the way the road curves heading southbound it is difficult to notice how sharp the exit is if you're not familiar with it. Not on Google Street view, but often while driving by it I see visible tire paths in the grass island beyond the exit.
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 06:11:13 PM »

The Saw Mill is an extremely substandard road, even by NY parkway standards. Entrance/Exit ramps like this are all too common (SB Ashford Ave exit comes to mind)

If NYSDOT ever upgrades the parkway (they won't) the focus should really be on eliminating the at grade intersections first, and raising the roadway in Pleasantville. The substandard entrances and exits while dangerous aren't as important as these two things.

The one and only time I've driven the Saw Mill was about a month ago, on the way to Hartford CT. I suppose if you drive the road frequently you get used to the road's design, but for those who've never been on it before it can be a stressful drive. Those stoplights have a way of sneaking up on you! In the future if Waze (or whatever other app) recommends the Saw Mill, I'm staying on I-287 and taking I-684 instead.
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 08:48:10 PM »

The Saw Mill is an extremely substandard road, even by NY parkway standards. Entrance/Exit ramps like this are all too common (SB Ashford Ave exit comes to mind)

If NYSDOT ever upgrades the parkway (they won't) the focus should really be on eliminating the at grade intersections first, and raising the roadway in Pleasantville. The substandard entrances and exits while dangerous aren't as important as these two things.

The one and only time I've driven the Saw Mill was about a month ago, on the way to Hartford CT. I suppose if you drive the road frequently you get used to the road's design, but for those who've never been on it before it can be a stressful drive. Those stoplights have a way of sneaking up on you! In the future if Waze (or whatever other app) recommends the Saw Mill, I'm staying on I-287 and taking I-684 instead.

I love the Saw Mill but I would count as "used to it."

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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 10:11:30 PM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 11:17:21 PM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
I would respectfully disagree. The parkway was designed many decades ago when most cars wouldn't exceed 35 or so mph, so sharp exits/tiny acceleration lanes weren't a problem. It hasn't evolved to catch up with the automobile. There are also times when it gets so narrow and windy that I'm not sure how I was able to make it through without catching a sideswipe. No hate to you or NYSDOT though, you guys are very much appreciated!  :-D
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 01:39:33 AM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
I would respectfully disagree. The parkway was designed many decades ago when most cars wouldn't exceed 35 or so mph, so sharp exits/tiny acceleration lanes weren't a problem. It hasn't evolved to catch up with the automobile. There are also times when it gets so narrow and windy that I'm not sure how I was able to make it through without catching a sideswipe. No hate to you or NYSDOT though, you guys are very much appreciated!  :-D
Suit yourself.  One less car on the good road in for me to deal with. :D
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 08:55:46 AM »

I have to agree with InterstateFan, The Don, and NoGoodNames. I love the scenery of the Saw Mill River Parkway, but I hate the intersections and defective interchanges. And I still see plenty of places where some of them can easily be rebuilt as decent interchanges.





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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2020, 12:21:49 PM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
I would respectfully disagree. The parkway was designed many decades ago when most cars wouldn't exceed 35 or so mph, so sharp exits/tiny acceleration lanes weren't a problem. It hasn't evolved to catch up with the automobile. There are also times when it gets so narrow and windy that I'm not sure how I was able to make it through without catching a sideswipe. No hate to you or NYSDOT though, you guys are very much appreciated!  :-D
Suit yourself.  One less car on the good road in for me to deal with. :D

Tell the higher ups to invest a couple billion into the saw mill, it'll make us very happy.  :bigass:
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2020, 05:23:14 PM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
I would respectfully disagree. The parkway was designed many decades ago when most cars wouldn't exceed 35 or so mph, so sharp exits/tiny acceleration lanes weren't a problem. It hasn't evolved to catch up with the automobile. There are also times when it gets so narrow and windy that I'm not sure how I was able to make it through without catching a sideswipe. No hate to you or NYSDOT though, you guys are very much appreciated!  :-D
Suit yourself.  One less car on the good road in for me to deal with. :D

Tell the higher ups to invest a couple billion into the saw mill, it'll make us very happy.  :bigass:
Why?  Keeping it substandard is a deterrent to traffic, evidently.
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 07:35:22 PM »

Saw Mill Parkway is everything that's wonderful and terrible about being a roadgeek, depending on your perspective: it seems that no two exits are alike, there's some weird curves, odd ramps (there's a 5 mph ramp), some occasionally terrifying lane separation, unexpected at-grades, lots of old stuff, part of it looks seemingly abandoned, and packed with decent scenery.

It's a nightmare for perfectionists but great for those of us who like variety.

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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 01:11:35 PM »

Saw Mill is one of the better ways into the City for passenger vehicles.  Back in the 1980s, it was even worse for entrances and exits.  The drive's a breeze now. :D
I would respectfully disagree. The parkway was designed many decades ago when most cars wouldn't exceed 35 or so mph, so sharp exits/tiny acceleration lanes weren't a problem. It hasn't evolved to catch up with the automobile. There are also times when it gets so narrow and windy that I'm not sure how I was able to make it through without catching a sideswipe. No hate to you or NYSDOT though, you guys are very much appreciated!  :-D
Suit yourself.  One less car on the good road in for me to deal with. :D

Tell the higher ups to invest a couple billion into the saw mill, it'll make us very happy.  :bigass:
Why?  Keeping it substandard is a deterrent to traffic, evidently.

Just make it look like this throughout :clap: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2016262,-73.7406417,3a,75y,215.19h,81.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd5duT5M9f6C3WezpVI_HRQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2020, 12:38:23 PM »

Judging from GSV, they seem to be widening the ramp to 2 lanes?
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2020, 03:35:54 PM »

Ooh boy, here we go:


The partial stack interchange with the Taconic in Hawthorne is cool, but I almost never go further north than that.
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Re: Saw Mill River Parkway Exit 32
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2020, 04:11:12 PM »

Ooh boy, here we go:


The partial stack interchange with the Taconic in Hawthorne is cool, but I almost never go further north than that.

The funny part, they recently redid the Ashford Avenue Bridge, you'd think they would provide a proper entrance ramp, but nope.
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