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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #150 on: January 06, 2021, 04:53:11 PM »

The Canadian government hasn't stood in the way of Major League Baseball, the National Hockey League or the National Basketball Association. All three organizations at least have teams in Toronto. Obviously the NHL has multiple Canadian teams along with a bunch of American ones.

Sorry, but no.  Canadian football is considered part of Canadian culture.  Introducing the NFL to Canada would eventually kill Canadian football, at least in its current form.

There is no "Canadian basketball" or "Canadian baseball" with different rules than their US counterparts.  And the NHL could be considered an export of Canadian sports culture.  That's OK, but not the other way around.

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One key reason why the NFL has historically never considered placing a team in Canada is weather and how that conflicts with the NFL season schedule. The CFL starts its seasons up in June and they end in November before the start of winter. And even in November the weather gets bad enough. A Canadian NFL team would have to play in an indoor stadium and even on artificial turf (unlike the retractable fields on which the Arizona Cardinals and Las Vegas Raiders play).

Like, maybe, at the Rogers Centre in Toronto?
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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #151 on: January 06, 2021, 05:13:28 PM »

The Canadian government hasn't stood in the way of Major League Baseball, the National Hockey League or the National Basketball Association. All three organizations at least have teams in Toronto. Obviously the NHL has multiple Canadian teams along with a bunch of American ones.

Sorry, but no.  Canadian football is considered part of Canadian culture.  Introducing the NFL to Canada would eventually kill Canadian football, at least in its current form.

There is no "Canadian basketball" or "Canadian baseball" with different rules than their US counterparts.  And the NHL could be considered an export of Canadian sports culture.  That's OK, but not the other way around.

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One key reason why the NFL has historically never considered placing a team in Canada is weather and how that conflicts with the NFL season schedule. The CFL starts its seasons up in June and they end in November before the start of winter. And even in November the weather gets bad enough. A Canadian NFL team would have to play in an indoor stadium and even on artificial turf (unlike the retractable fields on which the Arizona Cardinals and Las Vegas Raiders play).

Like, maybe, at the Rogers Centre in Toronto?

No, the Blue Jays "locked" it in the baseball configuration the year they changed the playing surface from dirt cutouts to the current configuration that looks like a grass field.   
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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #152 on: January 06, 2021, 08:09:57 PM »

Let's also not forget the Major League Baseball season ends well before Winter. The example of the Rogers Centre (baseball only) doesn't apply.

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Sorry, but no. Canadian football is considered part of Canadian culture. Introducing the NFL to Canada would eventually kill Canadian football, at least in its current form.

The statement "Canadian football is considered part of Canadian culture" is not proof the Canadian government drew up legislation specifically banning the NFL from locating a team in Canada.

I would agree the CFL would have trouble competing with the NFL. However the two leagues operate on different schedules. And even if the NFL did come to Canada it would be in no more than one or two cities at best.

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And the NHL could be considered an export of Canadian sports culture. That's OK, but not the other way around.

Not the other way around? That sounds like a double standard to me. There are more NHL teams in the United States than Canada, even if hockey is "Canadian Sports culture." Hockey is played in Russia, Scandinavia and other Northern nations too.
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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #153 on: January 06, 2021, 08:13:49 PM »

There are more NHL teams in the United States than Canada, even if hockey is "Canadian Sports culture."

The United States has ten times Canada's population.
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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #154 on: January 07, 2021, 07:46:55 AM »

The NHL is indeed originally a Canadian league. Despite the popular misuse of the term "Original Six," the teams to which that refers were not the original teams—only two of them were there from the beginning. The league started in 1917 with four teams, although the Montreal Wanderers folded almost immediately when their arena burned down. The other three were the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Arenas (now the Maple Leafs), and the original Ottawa Senators (not organizationally related to the current team with the same name). The first American franchise was added in 1924 (the Boston Bruins). The league grew to as many as ten teams in the ensuing years before winding up with the so-called "Original Six" in 1942.
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Re: NFL in Austin, TX
« Reply #155 on: January 07, 2021, 10:38:06 AM »

The NHL is indeed originally a Canadian league. Despite the popular misuse of the term "Original Six," the teams to which that refers were not the original teams—only two of them were there from the beginning. The league started in 1917 with four teams, although the Montreal Wanderers folded almost immediately when their arena burned down. The other three were the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Arenas (now the Maple Leafs), and the original Ottawa Senators (not organizationally related to the current team with the same name). The first American franchise was added in 1924 (the Boston Bruins). The league grew to as many as ten teams in the ensuing years before winding up with the so-called "Original Six" in 1942.

I get the point you are making, and it's all true.  Just pointing out the inaccuracies in vernacular in basically all four of the North American sports.  The original 16 in Major League Baseball, or the also referred to original eight of the Senior Circuit (National League) are not the original National League teams.  That term exists from 1901 to the present only.  It represents the eight National League and eight American League teams that were in existence at the time of the American-National merger in 1901.  All 16 of those franchises are still in existence today.

Same with the original NFL franchises.  They only get the term original because they were the teams that were in the NFL before the NFL-AFL merger was official in 1970.  Some of those teams (49ers, Browns, a separate Baltimore Colts) came for the AAFC, and others joined through consolidations, or just joined like they did in the old days, but that term doesn't mean those teams were there in 1920 at the word go.  I get why they use those terms, but to the masses it can be confusing.   

Then there is the curious case of the Boston Yanks/New York Bulldogs/Dallas Texans/other Baltimore Colts.  when it was all said and done, this was the last team(s) to fold in NFL history. 
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