Unpopular opinions (non road related)

[vdeane]

It is a little odd that for consecutive terms the number doesn't change, but for non-consecutive terms they do.

It is a little more odd that Doctor Who apparently works the same way.

And pre-Hartnell Doctors don't get numbered, just like pre-Washington Presidents.  It's spooky how many parallels there are here.

[Rothman]

It is a little odd that for consecutive terms the number doesn't change, but for non-consecutive terms they do.

It is a little more odd that Doctor Who apparently works the same way.

1: Hartnell
2: Troughton
3: Pertwee
4: T. Baker
5: Davison
6: C. Baker
7: McCoy
8: McGann
9: Hurt
10: Eccelston
11: Tennant
12: Smith
13: Capaldi
14: Whittaker
15: Tennant 2
16: Gatwa

I'll die on this hill.  Ignoring Hurt is stupid.

[Beltway]

It is a little odd that for consecutive terms the number doesn't change, but for non-consecutive terms they do.

Best I can tell they consider an 8-year double term to be one administration. They do tend to be mostly seamless in personnel.

[Rothman]

It is a little odd that for consecutive terms the number doesn't change, but for non-consecutive terms they do.

It is a little more odd that Doctor Who apparently works the same way.

And pre-Hartnell Doctors don't get numbered, just like pre-Washington Presidents.  It's spooky how many parallels there are here.

Timeless Child nonsense.

[Scott5114]

I'll die on this hill.  Ignoring Hurt is stupid.

Of course, the real reason Hurt isn't counted is that there'd been years and years of marketing materials with Eccleston as Nine and Tennant as Ten, and an entire change in showrunner, before anyone set about establishing that there might have been a guy in between McGann and Eccleston.

We got an Alanland joke out of it at least.

Best I can tell they consider an 8-year double term to be one administration. They do tend to be mostly seamless in personnel.

At the lower levels, yes, but it's not infrequent for Cabinet secretaries to switch out at the 4-year mark.

[Beltway]

Best I can tell they consider an 8-year double term to be one administration. They do tend to be mostly seamless in personnel.

At the lower levels, yes, but it's not infrequent for Cabinet secretaries to switch out at the 4-year mark.

Yes, there is turnover. But things change completely when a new president of the opposite party comes in.

[vdeane]

Of course, the real reason Hurt isn't counted is that there'd been years and years of marketing materials with Eccleston as Nine and Tennant as Ten, and an entire change in showrunner, before anyone set about establishing that there might have been a guy in between McGann and Eccleston.

We got an Alanland joke out of it at least.

And not only that, the reason they added someone in between is because Moffat couldn't see 8 fighting the Time War and Eccleston declined to return.

[kphoger]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

[Scott5114]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

[1995hoo]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

[Max Rockatansky]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

[1995hoo]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

[Max Rockatansky]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

I caught the CSA reference.  I always found it little odd that all these presidential lists don't count what was going on under the First Continental Congress.  I'd imagine those would be far less controversial than counting anything from the CSA. 

[Beltway]

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

Their view would be that they were no longer in the United States and had no plans on returning.

[GaryV]

I always found it little odd that all these presidential lists don't count what was going on under the First Continental Congress

That position was different than the President after the Constitution. It could probably better be compared to Speaker of the House. The President was elected from among and by the members of the Continental Congress to act as moderator of their sessions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_Continental_Congress

[Max Rockatansky]

I always found it little odd that all these presidential lists don't count what was going on under the First Continental Congress

That position was different than the President after the Constitution. It could probably better be compared to Speaker of the House. The President was elected from among and by the members of the Continental Congress to act as moderator of their sessions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_Continental_Congress

I don't dispute that the function isn't exactly the same.  They still had the title "president" though. 

[ClassicHasClass]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

This screenshot brings up two questions:

- which Linux distro
- why did you read those particular presidents' wiki pages

[Scott5114]

This screenshot brings up two questions:

- which Linux distro
- why did you read those particular presidents' wiki pages

Fedora

(this is my answer to both questions)

[1995hoo]

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

Their view would be that they were no longer in the United States and had no plans on returning.

I wasn't referring to the people then. I was referring to some people now. That is, for example, Virginia seceded after Lincoln became president. So some people would argue that he was the 16th, then Davis was 17th. Then Johnson after the war. Etc.

[Rothman]

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

Their view would be that they were no longer in the United States and had no plans on returning.

I wasn't referring to the people then. I was referring to some people now. That is, for example, Virginia seceded after Lincoln became president. So some people would argue that he was the 16th, then Davis was 17th. Then Johnson after the war. Etc.

Meh.  Davis was never President of the USA.  He was President of the CSA.

[Beltway]

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

Their view would be that they were no longer in the United States and had no plans on returning.

I wasn't referring to the people then. I was referring to some people now. That is, for example, Virginia seceded after Lincoln became president. So some people would argue that he was the 16th, then Davis was 17th. Then Johnson after the war. Etc.

The lower South 7 states seceded. The upper South (VA, NC, TN, AR) didn't secede until Lincoln demanded conscription, passage, materiel and quartering from the upper South states. They wanted nothing to do with supporting Lincoln's war.

Nevertheless, Jefferson Davis never was a United States president, IMHO.

[I-57/Route 66 Fan]

Depending on your point of view if you live in certain southern states, you might argue there have been either 46 or 48 legitimate presidents.

No love for the President's under the First Continental Congress?

I was referring to President Davis.

Their view would be that they were no longer in the United States and had no plans on returning.

I wasn't referring to the people then. I was referring to some people now. That is, for example, Virginia seceded after Lincoln became president. So some people would argue that he was the 16th, then Davis was 17th. Then Johnson after the war. Etc.

The lower South 7 states seceded. The upper South (VA, NC, TN, AR) didn't secede until Lincoln demanded conscription, passage, materiel and quartering from the upper South states. They wanted nothing to do with supporting Lincoln's war.

Nevertheless, Jefferson Davis never was a United States president, IMHO.

Actually we might of had 61 Presidents the 45, the 14 from the Continental Congress, Jefferson Davis, & probably David Rice Atchison.

[tchafe1978]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Who is Alan Dunes-Flamingo?

[Max Rockatansky]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Who is Alan Dunes-Flamingo?

Who is Alan Dunes-Flamingo?  Are you for real?  Have you heard of Jesus!?

https://quindaropedia.fandom.com/wiki/Alan_Dunes-Flamingo

[Beltway]

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.

Or there have been 45 legitimate Presidents and two impostors.  I mean, who really knows...

Who is Alan Dunes-Flamingo?

Who is Albert Lea (1881)?