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Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line

Started by Max Rockatansky, April 08, 2021, 03:26:59 PM

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FredAkbar

I did US-95 to Searchlight then west on NV-164/Nipton Rd to I-15 once, which at least bypasses the Primm-area traffic jam, and was a fun easy drive, but doesn't help if things are heavy even past Baker.

US-95 to I-40 seems like a hell of a detour just to drive the same distance on an interstate as you would have otherwise, but I guess it's better than sitting in that annoying Baker-to-Barstow traffic, if you have the time to spare.


FredAkbar

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 19, 2026, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 19, 2026, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 03:18:03 AMWith Yermo Road closed right there, is there any point to the Field Road interchange at all?

Presumably whatever Field Road goes to. But it turns into a dirt road pretty soon on both sides of the Yermo Rd intersection (north and east). Satellite view (and zoomed in Google Maps regular view) suggests there is a road in some sense (at first unnamed, then later connecting to 20866 County Road near Dunn) that continues on to the east, all the way past Dunn to Afton Rd. It also forks off to the south near the Yermo Rd intersection, toward the black object (what is that, a gulch/canyon or something man-made?).

That's the railroad and Field Road leads to what was one Field siding.

I had to Google that one. Field Siding? Apparently there is a hobby done there called rock hounding. I guess if there isn't much in the desert, there's always plenty of rocks.

Max Rockatansky

At Baker if you have advanced knowledge of a problem you can detour down to I-40 via Kelbaker Road.  Essentially it is a continuation of CA 127 and was somewhat recently repaved.  The detour I've taken a couple times before the modern Ag station was built is:

-  Nipton Road
-  Ivanpah Road
-  Morning Star Mine Road
-  Kelso-Cima Road
-  Kelbaker Road

The trouble is a lot of those detours work best for terminal destinations down south.  The issue I have is that I live out west in Fresno.  Death Valley, Panamint Valley and Trona are an option for me for much of the year.  Redrock-Randsburg Road getting obliterated via washouts this winter makes that detour less seamless though. 

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: FredAkbar on May 19, 2026, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 19, 2026, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 19, 2026, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 03:18:03 AMWith Yermo Road closed right there, is there any point to the Field Road interchange at all?

Presumably whatever Field Road goes to. But it turns into a dirt road pretty soon on both sides of the Yermo Rd intersection (north and east). Satellite view (and zoomed in Google Maps regular view) suggests there is a road in some sense (at first unnamed, then later connecting to 20866 County Road near Dunn) that continues on to the east, all the way past Dunn to Afton Rd. It also forks off to the south near the Yermo Rd intersection, toward the black object (what is that, a gulch/canyon or something man-made?).

That's the railroad and Field Road leads to what was one Field siding.

I had to Google that one. Field Siding? Apparently there is a hobby done there called rock hounding. I guess if there isn't much in the desert, there's always plenty of rocks.

Yeah, the Los Angeles & Salt Lake Railroad built siding facilities about every ten miles.  Most have fallen into disuse in modern times but are pretty easy to find on older Topo maps.  I've spent way too much time ghost town hunting in the Mojave Preserve and general area.  Usually there is at least some evidence of structures at most derelict siding locations.  Field never really caught my eye since it doesn't appear to be anything left aside from the road.

pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 19, 2026, 02:39:03 PMAt Baker if you have advanced knowledge of a problem you can detour down to I-40 via Kelbaker Road.  Essentially it is a continuation of CA 127 and was somewhat recently repaved.  The detour I've taken a couple times before the modern Ag station was built is:

-  Nipton Road
-  Ivanpah Road
-  Morning Star Mine Road
-  Kelso-Cima Road
-  Kelbaker Road

The trouble is a lot of those detours work best for terminal destinations down south.  The issue I have is that I live out west in Fresno.  Death Valley, Panamint Valley and Trona are an option for me for much of the year.  Redrock-Randsburg Road getting obliterated via washouts this winter makes that detour less seamless though. 

That's been my preferred route toward San Diego, often followed by Amboy Rd, through Joshua Tree, Box Canyon Rd, CA-86, CR-S30, I-8. Long, but I love most of those roads.

You could go via Pahrump, Death Valley Junction, CA-190, US-395, CA-14, CA-178, CA-99. But I wouldn't want to drive that at night, because curvy roads like 190 and 178 are tedious in the dark.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 19, 2026, 02:39:03 PMAt Baker if you have advanced knowledge of a problem you can detour down to I-40 via Kelbaker Road.  Essentially it is a continuation of CA 127 and was somewhat recently repaved.  The detour I've taken a couple times before the modern Ag station was built is:

-  Nipton Road
-  Ivanpah Road
-  Morning Star Mine Road
-  Kelso-Cima Road
-  Kelbaker Road

The trouble is a lot of those detours work best for terminal destinations down south.  The issue I have is that I live out west in Fresno.  Death Valley, Panamint Valley and Trona are an option for me for much of the year.  Redrock-Randsburg Road getting obliterated via washouts this winter makes that detour less seamless though. 

That's been my preferred route toward San Diego, often followed by Amboy Rd, through Joshua Tree, Box Canyon Rd, CA-86, CR-S30, I-8. Long, but I love most of those roads.

You could go via Pahrump, Death Valley Junction, CA-190, US-395, CA-14, CA-178, CA-99. But I wouldn't want to drive that at night, because curvy roads like 190 and 178 are tedious in the dark.

Taking State Line Road west of Pahrump to CA 127 at Death Valley Junction pretty easy since it was recently repaved.  Cutting down through Trona I've found saves a lot of time versus sticking west on 190 to US 395.  I probably could just stay west on 178 from Ridgecrest all the way to Bakersfield and take 204 to 99. 

pderocco

Funny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Scott5114

Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:19:29 PMFunny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Once you've done it, oh, let's say four times, it gets old fast.

My wife is wanting going to San Diego to be a twice-a-year thing so I am probably going to be using most of these suggestions at some point, out of sheer boredom if nothing else. We have one planned for the beginning of June and I think I'm gonna do CA 18 on the way back.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:19:29 PMFunny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Once you've done it, oh, let's say four times, it gets old fast.

My wife is wanting going to San Diego to be a twice-a-year thing so I am probably going to be using most of these suggestions at some point, out of sheer boredom if nothing else. We have one planned for the beginning of June and I think I'm gonna do CA 18 on the way back.

It has a similar vibe to I-5 in the Central Valley.  That's another freeway segment I've expended a lot of brain power trying to figure out how to avoid.  At least the options with I-5 are considerably more varied and practical.

FredAkbar

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2026, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:19:29 PMFunny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Once you've done it, oh, let's say four times, it gets old fast.

My wife is wanting going to San Diego to be a twice-a-year thing so I am probably going to be using most of these suggestions at some point, out of sheer boredom if nothing else. We have one planned for the beginning of June and I think I'm gonna do CA 18 on the way back.

It has a similar vibe to I-5 in the Central Valley.  That's another freeway segment I've expended a lot of brain power trying to figure out how to avoid.  At least the options with I-5 are considerably more varied and practical.
I-5 is so much longer though. Almost 3 hours from 580 to 58 (so even farther if you're doing, say, Sac to LA). The only part of I-15 that feels like a drag to me is the 45-60 minutes from Barstow to Baker. From Baker to the state line is more interesting due to all the mountains (and the third lane most of the way makes that section much more tolerable).

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: FredAkbar on May 20, 2026, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2026, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:19:29 PMFunny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Once you've done it, oh, let's say four times, it gets old fast.

My wife is wanting going to San Diego to be a twice-a-year thing so I am probably going to be using most of these suggestions at some point, out of sheer boredom if nothing else. We have one planned for the beginning of June and I think I'm gonna do CA 18 on the way back.

It has a similar vibe to I-5 in the Central Valley.  That's another freeway segment I've expended a lot of brain power trying to figure out how to avoid.  At least the options with I-5 are considerably more varied and practical.
I-5 is so much longer though. Almost 3 hours from 580 to 58 (so even farther if you're doing, say, Sac to LA). The only part of I-15 that feels like a drag to me is the 45-60 minutes from Barstow to Baker. From Baker to the state line is more interesting due to all the mountains (and the third lane most of the way makes that section much more tolerable).

I do really dig all those volcanic mountains between Dunn siding and Zzyzx.

Plutonic Panda

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2026, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 20, 2026, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2026, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 19, 2026, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: pderocco on May 19, 2026, 04:19:29 PMFunny how the topic has become "(How not to drive) Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line".

Once you've done it, oh, let's say four times, it gets old fast.

My wife is wanting going to San Diego to be a twice-a-year thing so I am probably going to be using most of these suggestions at some point, out of sheer boredom if nothing else. We have one planned for the beginning of June and I think I'm gonna do CA 18 on the way back.

It has a similar vibe to I-5 in the Central Valley.  That's another freeway segment I've expended a lot of brain power trying to figure out how to avoid.  At least the options with I-5 are considerably more varied and practical.
I-5 is so much longer though. Almost 3 hours from 580 to 58 (so even farther if you're doing, say, Sac to LA). The only part of I-15 that feels like a drag to me is the 45-60 minutes from Barstow to Baker. From Baker to the state line is more interesting due to all the mountains (and the third lane most of the way makes that section much more tolerable).

I do really dig all those volcanic mountains between Dunn siding and Zzyzx.
I want to explore that area in between I-15 and I-40 it looks like wizard hat on Google Maps.

ClassicHasClass

Quote from: FredAkbar on May 19, 2026, 02:24:20 PMUS-95 to I-40 seems like a hell of a detour just to drive the same distance on an interstate as you would have otherwise, but I guess it's better than sitting in that annoying Baker-to-Barstow traffic, if you have the time to spare.

Oh, it is, but I love the terrain out there and it's an easy scoot.