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[Plutonic Panda]

^^^ that bullshit came at the expense of further neglecting one of the busiest interchanges in the state. What a joke.

Help me out, which one got neglected?

I-35/I-240 interchange.

Thanks.

I see almost $100 million scheduled for FFY2025 for that interchange. Add in what has already been done and what is scheduled for this year and that is a good chunk of change. How is that neglect? I agree its not as fast as I would prefer but it isn't neglect.

I don’t know how to further explain myself. This interchange should have been finished 10 years ago. They keep kicking the can down the road. To me that’s neglect.

Looks like they want to build a flyover.

Two flyovers and two cloverleafs with a managed C/D system. Basically a near copy of the I-235/I-44 interchange.

[MikieTimT]

Are there any plans at all to address the west end of the Cherokee Turnpike and the Neosho/Grand River crossing?  That looks like it will require either another bridge altogether, or a complete rebuild with interchange for the industrial park on the west side of the river.  Nothing in any of the plans listed above seems to have anything about it.

[swake]

Are there any plans at all to address the west end of the Cherokee Turnpike and the Neosho/Grand River crossing?  That looks like it will require either another bridge altogether, or a complete rebuild with interchange for the industrial park on the west side of the river.  Nothing in any of the plans listed above seems to have anything about it.

There's $1.5 million for bridge rehab in 2023 and $500,000 for intersection modification in 2024. That doesn't look like enough money unless they are just removing access. The main access to the industrial park is on US-69 not US-412.

[Bobby5280]

The US-412 bridge over the Neosho River looks like it can just get under the radar as far as Interstate standards go. The right shoulders on the bridge are certainly big enough. The inner left shoulders measure 4-5 feet width. I have a feeling the higher ups might let that slide. They don't need a full lane width on the inner left shoulder.

The immediate intersection on the West side of the river (OK-412B) may have to be grade separated with no exit ramps at all. There's no room. I can see ODOT building a new 2-lane access road parallel to US-412 over to the N4335/US-412 intersection where there is more space for a standard diamond shaped exit. Really they may have to build at least one 2-lane parallel access road from OK-412B out to the US-69 interchange, if not just build a pair of flanking frontage roads. Or they could do a mix of both to minimize property takings. Still, I see no reason to replace that Neosho River bridge.

[MikieTimT]

The US-412 bridge over the Neosho River looks like it can just get under the radar as far as Interstate standards go. The right shoulders on the bridge are certainly big enough. The inner left shoulders measure 4-5 feet width. I have a feeling the higher ups might let that slide. They don't need a full lane width on the inner left shoulder.

The immediate intersection on the West side of the river (OK-412B) may have to be grade separated with no exit ramps at all. There's no room. I can see ODOT building a new 2-lane access road parallel to US-412 over to the N4335/US-412 intersection where there is more space for a standard diamond shaped exit. Really they may have to build at least one 2-lane parallel access road from OK-412B out to the US-69 interchange, if not just build a pair of flanking frontage roads. Or they could do a mix of both to minimize property takings. Still, I see no reason to replace that Neosho River bridge.

They should still address both ends of the Cherokee Turnpike so that it doesn't reduce speeds so far and stripe both carriageways for 2 lanes each to continue onto US-412.  Alt-412 should be nothing more than a standard exit on both ends of the turnpike with a standard entrance ramp.  May need some geometry changes to facilitate maintaining standard expressway speeds.

[swake]

Here is Oklahoma's grant application to upgrade US-412 to an Interstate highway between I-44 and the Cherokee Turnpike. it's a $140 million project to add 8 interchanges, 6 additional bridges and repaving.

Design work is underway with general construction to take place starting in 2025 and ending in 2028.

https://oklahoma.gov/odot/progress-and-performance/federal-grant-awards/mpdg-grants/mpdg-2022/us-412_priority_improvements_for_interstate_designation.html

[Scott5114]

The map prominently including Congressional district boundaries is a good tell for who the target audience is.

[splashflash]

Cable barrier coming::

https://www.fox23.com/news/32-miles-of-cable-barriers-to-be-installed-along-the-cherokee-turnpike/article_c89210e6-be96-11ed-9a3e-cf2767f99056.html

[sprjus4]

The fact they had an 80 mph freeway with a 40 foot median with zero barrier to begin with is crazy…

[Bobby5280]

Obviously they were gambling, seeing if they could procrastinate as long as possible without a grisly head-on collision happening in the meantime.