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« Reply #400 on: June 14, 2012, 11:11:23 PM »

Noticed today while driving around Chesterfield County that some right-of-way is being cleared along section of Old Hundred Road (SR 652/the tail end of VA 76) between Charter Colony Parkway and just past Brandermill Parkway. I hadn't previously heard about any project to widen the road, or that any progress had been made regarding any potential extension of Powhite Parkway (it's not likely to happen what with the development in Brandermill and Woodlake now).

That has been reported in the newspapers.  An $8 million project to widen one mile of Powhite to 4 lanes divided, extending from the western end of the 4-lane divided cross section.  Will extend west to Watermill Parkway.

"The county Transportation Department said construction started in April on widening the Powhite Parkway extension from Route 288 to Watermill Parkway to four lanes. The $8 million project, financed with revenue-sharing funds from the Virginia Department of Transportation, is expected to be finished in December."

http://www.chesterfieldobserver.com/news/2012-06-13/Front_Page/Roadwork_gears_up_in_anticipation_of_growth.html

Also of interest, the un-6-laned section of US-360 east of VA-288 --

"Meanwhile, engineering studies are under way for widening two stretches of Route 360. The section from Genito Road to Warbro Road, currently four lanes, would be expanded to six lanes at a cost of about $3.5 million. Scheduled to start construction next year, the project would be financed with funds from the Regional Surface Transportation Program (RSTP), a combined state and federal program."

Somehow I missed that story, thanks for the link. As for US 360, that 6-laning is definitely needed. During the day, US 360 in central Chesterfield County is an utter nightmare thanks to suburban sprawl and gigantic planned neighborhoods near Swift Creek Reservoir. There are times when even 6 lanes don't seem like enough. The stretch near Brandermill and Woodlake is actually 8 lanes for about two miles or so and it's still badly congested at times.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #401 on: June 15, 2012, 12:16:48 PM »

Washington Post: Loudoun-Prince William Highway is not the ‘Outer Beltway,’ but it’s a big, controversial road

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Our elected representatives keep saying it’s true, so we’ll believe them: This is not an Outer Beltway. But the momentum is clearly ramping up to build a major north-south thoroughfare from Route 7 in Loudoun County down to I-95 in Prince William County, which officials say will better connect Dulles International Airport with I-66 and I-95 to increase its role as a cargo hub.

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Smart growth groups say spending billions on a north-south road is a bad idea when the vast majority of traffic goes east-west. A north-south Loudoun-Prince William Highway would simply enrich the developers who’ve been waiting for that corridor to unfold, some longtime observers say, adding more sprawl and more cars which would mostly be heading to D.C. or Fairfax County, not to Manassas or Ashburn.

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And Loudoun County’s not wasting any time. Nine days after approving the route for the highway, the county filed eminent domain proceedings against two properties in its path.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #402 on: June 15, 2012, 06:55:20 PM »

I'm all in favor of a new parkway, which I guess ties into VA 28. Extend that sucker to Solomon's Island and you'll get some REAL economic development.

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« Reply #403 on: June 16, 2012, 11:47:06 AM »

I'm all in favor of a new parkway, which I guess ties into VA 28. Extend that sucker to Solomon's Island and you'll get some REAL economic development.

Not sure I get the idea behind extending this to Solomon's Island.  Were you being sarcastic?
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #404 on: June 17, 2012, 01:05:07 AM »

I'm all in favor of a new parkway, which I guess ties into VA 28. Extend that sucker to Solomon's Island and you'll get some REAL economic development.

Not sure I get the idea behind extending this to Solomon's Island.  Were you being sarcastic?

On the one hand, (: On the other hand, connecting it to the 2/4 corridor may actually do something.

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« Reply #405 on: June 17, 2012, 08:29:32 AM »

I'm all in favor of a new parkway, which I guess ties into VA 28. Extend that sucker to Solomon's Island and you'll get some REAL economic development.

Not sure I get the idea behind extending this to Solomon's Island.  Were you being sarcastic?

On the one hand, (: On the other hand, connecting it to the 2/4 corridor may actually do something.

The original Outer Beltway plans did not enter or cross Calvert County, Maryland at all. 

Scott Kozel's Roads to the Future has (what I consider to be) an image of a reasonably accurate Outer Beltway map on his Roads to the Future site here.
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« Reply #406 on: June 18, 2012, 04:02:42 PM »

VDOT and Governor McDonnell announced recently new travel time signage going up around Hampton Roads showing travel times via differing routes to both the Virginia Beach Oceanfront and the Outer Banks.

http://www.governor.virginia.gov/news/viewRelease.cfm?id=1264

I wish they had these when I lived there. A local radio station posted a picture of one on Facebook, and in the comments it appears they're all up. Anybody on here seen them?

Also, the majority of those comments make me lose what little faith I had left in humanity.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #407 on: June 18, 2012, 05:36:47 PM »

VDOT and Governor McDonnell announced recently new travel time signage going up around Hampton Roads showing travel times via differing routes to both the Virginia Beach Oceanfront and the Outer Banks.

http://www.governor.virginia.gov/news/viewRelease.cfm?id=1264

I wish they had these when I lived there. A local radio station posted a picture of one on Facebook, and in the comments it appears they're all up. Anybody on here seen them?

Yes, in the D.C. area as well as in the Hampton Roads area. 

They are very helpful, but of course rely on the analysis of Smart Traffic Center personnel.
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« Reply #408 on: June 18, 2012, 09:24:29 PM »

I talked to the VDOT Megaprojects office, and the word is that the I-495 Express Lanes will open in entirely on December 10, 2012.  That will include the HOV-to-HOV interchange between the Beltway and Shirley Highway (whose ramps will be untolled).
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #409 on: June 21, 2012, 09:40:24 PM »

http://cvilletomorrow.typepad.com/charlottesville_tomorrow_/2012/06/western_bypass.html
 
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Western Bypass contract awarded
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RICHMOND — The Commonwealth Transportation Board has officially awarded a $135 million contract to the team of Skanska/Branch Highways to design and build the 6.2-mile [Charlottesville] Western Bypass of U.S. 29 in Albemarle County.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #410 on: June 21, 2012, 11:30:25 PM »

Where is this going to tie in on the north and south ends?
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« Reply #411 on: June 22, 2012, 09:10:08 AM »

I talked to the VDOT Megaprojects office, and the word is that the I-495 Express Lanes will open in entirely on December 10, 2012.  That will include the HOV-to-HOV interchange between the Beltway and Shirley Highway (whose ramps will be untolled).

Much of the work is done - some sections look to be ready for traffic right now.  But  there's still plenty of work to be done in the interchanges at I-66, U.S. 29 (Lee Highway) [brand-new ramps from the northbound toll lanes and to the southbound toll lanes], Va. 267 (Dulles Toll Road), Va. 620 (Braddock Road) and Va. 650 (Gallows Road). 

Order is my guess as to how much work is left, most to least.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #412 on: June 22, 2012, 09:36:25 AM »

When I was through there last week I thought Gallows's new ramp appeared to need a lot more work than 29's. The one at Gallows didn't yet reach road level on the overpass, while the one at 29 did.

The point about the Shirley Highway HOV connections being untolled matches up with what they told me, but I wonder why tolling equipment has been installed on the gantries at the western end of said ramps if there is no toll there.
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« Reply #413 on: June 22, 2012, 10:22:17 AM »

<<< The point about the Shirley Highway HOV connections being untolled matches up with what they told me, but I wonder why tolling equipment has been installed on the gantries at the western end of said ramps if there is no toll there.  >>>

That is what prompted my inquiry to the project manager, and he told me that it was for monitoring of passes, and to be in place for the future I-95 HOT Lanes project between I-495 and Garrisonville.  He did say no toll until then.


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« Reply #414 on: June 22, 2012, 05:58:52 PM »

Where is this going to tie in on the north and south ends?

This was in a link in the article. It's probably an approximation, but the article shows a drawing of the proposed south end of the new bypass pretty much where this picture shows it. It's northeast-southwest.
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« Reply #415 on: June 23, 2012, 08:09:44 AM »

The southern end of that bypass is to tie into the current bypass at the existing partial interchange for Leonard Sandridge Boulevard (formerly the North Grounds Connector Road).
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« Reply #416 on: June 23, 2012, 02:25:51 PM »

The southern end of that bypass is to tie into the current bypass at the existing partial interchange for Leonard Sandridge Boulevard (formerly the North Grounds Connector Road).

Are they still going to build the direct ramps for US-29 through traffic between the existing and extended bypass?
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« Reply #417 on: June 23, 2012, 05:30:10 PM »

Where is this going to tie in on the north and south ends?

This was in a link in the article. It's probably an approximation, but the article shows a drawing of the proposed south end of the new bypass pretty much where this picture shows it. It's northeast-southwest.

This was the project that the Piedmont Environmental Council sued the Federal Highway Administration and VDOT to stop some years ago, right?  And if memory serves, didn't the PEC get blown out of the water?
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« Reply #418 on: June 23, 2012, 06:27:18 PM »

Where is this going to tie in on the north and south ends?

This was in a link in the article. It's probably an approximation, but the article shows a drawing of the proposed south end of the new bypass pretty much where this picture shows it. It's northeast-southwest.

This was the project that the Piedmont Environmental Council sued the Federal Highway Administration and VDOT to stop some years ago, right?  And if memory serves, didn't the PEC get blown out of the water?

Southern Environmental Law Center (SELC).

And they did lose on their lawsuit, about 10 years ago.
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« Reply #420 on: July 05, 2012, 12:33:35 PM »

I have not driven on the Outer Loop of the Beltway between Van Dorn Street (Exit 173) and the Wilson Bridge since the THRU/LOCAL split was moved west a week or two ago (I was out of town at the time). Yesterday I used the Inner Loop THRU lanes on the way back from Nationals Park (how did I get into the THRU lanes? Stopped at the bank in Old Town and then re-entered the highway via the ramps from US-1) and when I was looking in my mirrors just west of the Eisenhower Connector I noted that there's a new sign on the Outer Loop in advance of the split, a fairly small arrow-per-lane pull-through sign for the Outer Loop THRU lanes. It omits the word "THRU," but it does have what strikes me as a very useful addition—a black-on-yellow banner on the top of the sign reading "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA." I obviously couldn't get a picture while driving the other way at 65 mph, but maybe I can try this weekend. The sign looks nonstandard in a number of ways, but it also looks like a temporary sign setup until all the work is finished (most notably, the LOCAL carriageway is currently a single lane while they reconfigure it following the THRU carriageway extension).

I've always been somewhat amused by the use of "LAST EXIT IN [STATE]" signs of the sort sometimes seen in New York and New Jersey, as they've often struck me as a bit pretentious. But "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA" used in conjunction with what are essentially express lanes (using that term in a generic sense, not a technical sense) seems to me to be an excellent idea in this particular circumstance as a way of underscoring to people that they need to use the other lanes if they're headed for Alexandria. I don't know whether they've added anything new to emphasize that I-295 traffic should also use the LOCAL lanes.
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« Reply #421 on: July 05, 2012, 02:19:47 PM »

I have not driven on the Outer Loop of the Beltway between Van Dorn Street (Exit 173) and the Wilson Bridge since the THRU/LOCAL split was moved west a week or two ago (I was out of town at the time). Yesterday I used the Inner Loop THRU lanes on the way back from Nationals Park (how did I get into the THRU lanes? Stopped at the bank in Old Town and then re-entered the highway via the ramps from US-1) and when I was looking in my mirrors just west of the Eisenhower Connector I noted that there's a new sign on the Outer Loop in advance of the split, a fairly small arrow-per-lane pull-through sign for the Outer Loop THRU lanes. It omits the word "THRU," but it does have what strikes me as a very useful addition—a black-on-yellow banner on the top of the sign reading "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA." I obviously couldn't get a picture while driving the other way at 65 mph, but maybe I can try this weekend. The sign looks nonstandard in a number of ways, but it also looks like a temporary sign setup until all the work is finished (most notably, the LOCAL carriageway is currently a single lane while they reconfigure it following the THRU carriageway extension).

The first signs read "95/495 keep left" and "All Exits Keep Right."  This may not be exact, but I think I am conveying the content correctly.  I don't like the way that these (apparently temporary) signs are worded.

I've always been somewhat amused by the use of "LAST EXIT IN [STATE]" signs of the sort sometimes seen in New York and New Jersey, as they've often struck me as a bit pretentious. But "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA" used in conjunction with what are essentially express lanes (using that term in a generic sense, not a technical sense) seems to me to be an excellent idea in this particular circumstance as a way of underscoring to people that they need to use the other lanes if they're headed for Alexandria. I don't know whether they've added anything new to emphasize that I-295 traffic should also use the LOCAL lanes.

The "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA" sign for the THRU lanes is entirely appropriate, in my opinion.

There are (I believe) two supplemental panels informing motorists wanting to exit at Va. 241, U.S. 1 and I-295 to use the LOCAL roadway. 

The only exit from the Outer Loop THRU roadway is to "secret" I-295 south (Md. 210 (Indian Head Highway) south, with one exit to Md. 414 before I-295 ends at Md. 210).
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« Reply #422 on: July 05, 2012, 02:46:40 PM »

The "NO EXIT IN VIRGINIA" sign for the THRU lanes is entirely appropriate, in my opinion.

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I agree, and I was quite surprised to see it because Virginia traditionally does not use any banners of that sort. I didn't expect they'd put up this sort of sign there even though it seems like common-sense. Among other reasons why I thought they wouldn't do it is that the original sign renderings in the Wilson Bridge project information didn't include anything of this sort. I think this is an example where a banner of this sort is more important on the Virginia side than the Maryland side, simply because the Virginia portion of the highway has a much more important destination served (Alexandria) than the Maryland portion (I-295 and maybe National Harbor).
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #423 on: July 08, 2012, 02:05:47 PM »

I had the pleasure of taking the outer loop "local lane" this morning. A bit tight, although my journey wasn't as smooth as it should have been because some idiot decided to cut across the closed portion of the roadway from the express lanes to exit at Telegraph Rd.

Regarding the "LAST EXIT IN [state]" signs, in NJ a border crossing typically involves a toll bridge and an easy U-Turn likely isn't possible after passing that exit.
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« Reply #424 on: July 09, 2012, 11:05:03 PM »

Henrico's North Gayton Road extension is coming along well.

 http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/jul/08/tdmain01-north-gayton-extension-to-transform-short-ar-2041061/

The article says there's no defined opening date, but it looks like it should be open for the Richmond meet in October.
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