Local naming conventions for long multiplexes

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US 89

Quote from: Tom958 on July 01, 2021, 09:44:21 PM
Actually, the Downtown Connector is only north of I-20, but very few people realize that.

Including me - and I've lived there for almost 3 years now.

Georgia is also notable in that some of their US/state overlaps (which occur on every US highway) are known by their state designation. US 19/GA 400 and US 23/GA 365 are among those.

The US concurrencies through Atlanta, in my experience, are never referred to by route number and instead just go by whatever street name they're routed on.


Rothman

Quote from: hbelkins on June 30, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
I will often hear the I-71/I-75 concurrency in Kentucky referred to as "71-75" on WKRC traffic reports.

US 23 gets precedent over its ride-alongs in its concurrencies with US 119 and US 460. However, the long US 68/KY 80 concurrency in south-central/southwestern Kentucky is often referred to as "68-80."
Around Prestonsburg, US 23/US 460 is known as the Four Lane.  Some people call 80 from Allen west to Hazard "New 80" still.

On another tangent, my relatives still say "Now that 64 is finished, you can get to X faster" or some variant.  It's been finished for decades, and yet they still treat it as if it brought world peace.
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SkyPesos

Quote from: frankenroad on July 01, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
Another long concurrency in our area is US-22/OH-3.  Most people just call it by its various names, i.e., Gilbert Avenue, Montgomery Rd, 3-C Highway.
Though less common than "Montgomery Rd", I hear it called "twenty-two three" sometimes as well. "3C highway" is rare in my experience.

achilles765

Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 01, 2021, 11:09:52 AM
I know from when I used to visit Houston a lot for work, that the multiplex of I-10/US 90 was generally referred to as the Katy Freeway. (90 is invisible through most of this)

Yeah. We usually use the names here for many of them, but some we use the numbers. There aren't many multiplexed routes here actually, oddly enough. The main one is US 90 being multiplexed with IH 10 from the east loop all the way to Katy. But most people don't even realize they're multiplexed because there are no signs for  US 90, so everyone just calls it I 10.

Tre other poster who mentioned that we all still call IH 69/US 59 "59,"  yeah that's absolutely true. I'm a road geek and I still call it 59

What I really wonder is what do people in Beaumont call US 69/US 96/US 287
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Evan_Th

I grew up in North Carolina around the US 15 - US 501 multiplex.  We always called it "Fifteen five oh one."

I occasionally heard the I-40 - I-85 multiplex called "forty eighty five", but hardly ever; it's usually called by one or the other route name.

bing101

I-580 and I-80 in the Bay Area is called Eastshore Freeway or simply Highway 80 from Berkeley to Oakland.

SP Cook

Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 01, 2021, 02:50:59 PM
I haven't heard a radio traffic report in Charleston in years.  Wonder how they refer to that section now?

Charleston traffic dictionary:

I-64/77 from the merger of 64 and 77 to the Turnpike.  "I-64 in downtown/by the Capitol/past the Capitol"
I-64/77 past that.  "The Turnpike" .
The junction of I-64 and I-77.  "64 - 77 Split."   (No matter the direction).
The exit where I-79 begins/ends from I-77.  "77 - 79 Split" .  (No matter the direction.)
Former US 21.  "Sissonville Drive" .
I-77 North of I-64.  "I-77" . (No directional needed as I-77 south of that point is covered above)
US 119 South/west of I-64.  "Corridor G."   Also used as a place name for the multiple strip malls located there, with anything past said malls being "out Corridor G" .
WV 817 from St. Albans to Winfield.  "Old Route 35."
Junction of US 35 and I-64 (which opened in 2007) "The new exit."
Anything on the south side of I-64 at the Cross Lanes exit (legally in Nitro).  "Dog Track Hill"
US 60 South of the Belle exit. "Route 60" .  No direction needed because:
US 60 in any other part of the region.  By its street name, never by number. 

hbelkins

Quote from: Rothman on July 01, 2021, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 30, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
I will often hear the I-71/I-75 concurrency in Kentucky referred to as "71-75" on WKRC traffic reports.

US 23 gets precedent over its ride-alongs in its concurrencies with US 119 and US 460. However, the long US 68/KY 80 concurrency in south-central/southwestern Kentucky is often referred to as "68-80."
Around Prestonsburg, US 23/US 460 is known as the Four Lane.  Some people call 80 from Allen west to Hazard "New 80" still.

In Perry County, they say "new 80" in reference to the four-lane to distinguish it from "old 80," which is the two-lane section from KY 15 west to the Leslie County line.

In my county, KY 11 north has been complete since 1981 and 1989 respectively, and it's still known as "the new road."
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HighwayStar

I generally use route numbers to refer to all roads, even in a concurrency.
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SkyPesos

Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
I generally use route numbers to refer to all roads, even in a concurrency.
All route numbers in a concurrency, or just the dominant one if there is one?

HighwayStar

Quote from: SkyPesos on July 02, 2021, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
I generally use route numbers to refer to all roads, even in a concurrency.
All route numbers in a concurrency, or just the dominant one if there is one?

Depends on the context, but usually just the one in question. So if giving directions I will refer to the road as US 1 if that is the route that should be followed. If referring to the route itself for whatever reason I will often pick a random one.
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Ned Weasel

US 54/400 is a long concurrency in Kansas, and most people call it "Kellogg" in Wichita, because it's officially signed as Kellogg Avenue (and occasionally unofficially called the Kellogg Freeway, not just by me), but it actually has different street names in Greensburg, Pratt, Kingman, and Augusta.  So, I'm honestly wondering, do people refer to it as "Kellogg" when it's outside of Wichita, Andover, and Goddard, do they call it US 54 (or "Highway 54"), or do they call it by the other street names?
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1995hoo

Quote from: Evan_Th on July 02, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
I grew up in North Carolina around the US 15 - US 501 multiplex.  We always called it "Fifteen five oh one."

I occasionally heard the I-40 - I-85 multiplex called "forty eighty five", but hardly ever; it's usually called by one or the other route name.

As a former resident of Durham, I concur in all of that. We always called the latter portion I-85, probably because I-85 more directly serves Durham and Duke University (the latter being the reason we were all there in the first place). If someone gave you directions to the Greensboro Coliseum, the directions involved taking I-85 South to Greensboro, then exiting onto I-40 towards Winston-Salem and following the Coliseum signs.
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Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 02, 2021, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
I generally use route numbers to refer to all roads, even in a concurrency.
All route numbers in a concurrency, or just the dominant one if there is one?

Depends on the context, but usually just the one in question. So if giving directions I will refer to the road as US 1 if that is the route that should be followed. If referring to the route itself for whatever reason I will often pick a random one.
Ok good. Was really hoping no one calls a particular section of interstate highway like "four sixty-five, seventy-four, thirty-one, thirty-six, thirty-seven, fourty, sixty-seven, future sixty-nine" .

Dirt Roads

Quote from: Evan_Th on July 02, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
I grew up in North Carolina around the US 15 - US 501 multiplex.  We always called it "Fifteen five oh one."

I occasionally heard the I-40 - I-85 multiplex called "forty eighty five", but hardly ever; it's usually called by one or the other route name.

Quote from: 1995hoo on July 03, 2021, 10:41:50 AM
As a former resident of Durham, I concur in all of that. We always called the latter portion I-85, probably because I-85 more directly serves Durham and Duke University (the latter being the reason we were all there in the first place). If someone gave you directions to the Greensboro Coliseum, the directions involved taking I-85 South to Greensboro, then exiting onto I-40 towards Winston-Salem and following the Coliseum signs.

Old-timers here still call the multiplex I-85 because it was here first.  I-40 wasn't completed in Orange County until 1989 (and I believe that the multiplex didn't get signed until afterwards).

froggie

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 30, 2021, 10:11:09 PM
US 10/61: Highway 61

As a kid, there were also references to 61/10 (even within MnDOT).  But yes, usually just "61".

Quote from: Coelacanth on July 01, 2021, 11:54:19 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 30, 2021, 10:11:09 PM
MN:

I-94/694 - both if referring to that segment, or just 94 if referring to the greater part of the route

I have never heard anybody refer to it using both numbers. It's just 694, unless you are continuing on 94 at either end, in which case it's probably 94.

My experience is the opposite...at least in my youth, it was overwhelmingly called just '94".  Occasionally 94/694, but I rarely heard it called just "694".

Quote from: bdmoss88 on July 01, 2021, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: ran4sh on June 30, 2021, 08:22:01 PM
Idk about the residents themselves, but the Alabama DOT seems to treat the I-20/59 overlap as I-59. The 3di to Tuscaloosa is x59 rather than x20, and on the official state map which features "straight line" type maps of the Interstates with ramp configuration diagrams for each interchange, I-59 gets one continuous map while I-20 gets a "see I-59" when reaching their merge point.
It's generally called "fifty-nine twenty".

Except on the Mississippi side where it's either "twenty fiftynine" or simply "the Interstate"...

andrepoiy

The Toronto area has two major multiplexes.

The first is easy, it's simply referred to as Highway 35/115. In speech, the slash isn't said, so it's just Highway 35 115.

The second is 403/QEW, and usually, traffic reports just say QEW or Gardiner-QE Combo (since QEW becomes Gardiner Expressway in Toronto). However, with regular speech, I think 403 and QEW are interchangeable as long as you state the cross street, people will understand what you mean.



bulldog1979

Quote from: GaryV on July 01, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
Michigan only has a few concurrencies, and most of them are short.

The longest, I-75 and US-23 is usually referred to as I-75.  Our flint user from Saginaw can confirm.

The other long one was I-69 and US-27, which is now gone.  I didn't get in that area a lot, but I think it was usually referred to only as I-69.

US-2 and US-41 are concurrent around Escanaba, and I'm not sure how they are locally referred to.  Same with the longer US-41 and M-28 concurrency west of Marquette.  (Both are signed together.)

When state routes join an Interstate or US freeway, they are usually well-signed.   For example, M-55 is concurrent with I-75 in the middle of the state, about 10-12 miles as I recollect.  Both are signed.

EDIT:  I forgot - I-96 and I-275 in the Detroit metro area is known almost exclusively as 275.


Here the UP, US 41 takes precedence over M-28 and US 2 takes precedence over both US 41 and M-35. US 2 also gets the nod over US 141 and M-95. Basically, the locals use one number, and that corresponds to the first number in the standard ordering. The one exception would probably be on the US 141/M-28 overlap where M-28 gets the nod and US 141 gets forgotten.

DandyDan

Quote from: froggie on July 03, 2021, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 30, 2021, 10:11:09 PM
US 10/61: Highway 61

As a kid, there were also references to 61/10 (even within MnDOT).  But yes, usually just "61".

Quote from: Coelacanth on July 01, 2021, 11:54:19 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 30, 2021, 10:11:09 PM
MN:

I-94/694 - both if referring to that segment, or just 94 if referring to the greater part of the route

I have never heard anybody refer to it using both numbers. It's just 694, unless you are continuing on 94 at either end, in which case it's probably 94.

My experience is the opposite...at least in my youth, it was overwhelmingly called just '94".  Occasionally 94/694, but I rarely heard it called just "694".
It has always been Highway 61 when I lived in and whenever I go back to Cottage Grove. US 10 may as well not exist between the Hastings area and Arden Hills.

I believe US 52 and MN 55 is just 52 or Highway 52.
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Some one

Quote from: achilles765 on July 02, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 01, 2021, 11:09:52 AM
I know from when I used to visit Houston a lot for work, that the multiplex of I-10/US 90 was generally referred to as the Katy Freeway. (90 is invisible through most of this)

Yeah. We usually use the names here for many of them, but some we use the numbers. There aren't many multiplexed routes here actually, oddly enough. The main one is US 90 being multiplexed with IH 10 from the east loop all the way to Katy. But most people don't even realize they're multiplexed because there are no signs for  US 90, so everyone just calls it I 10.

Tre other poster who mentioned that we all still call IH 69/US 59 "59,"  yeah that's absolutely true. I'm a road geek and I still call it 59

What I really wonder is what do people in Beaumont call US 69/US 96/US 287
There's also the US 290/SH 6 multiplex, which runs from NW Houston to Hempstead. Everyone just calls it 290, as it the main route/freeway. Although, SH 6 is signed along the multiplex for the most part.

bugo

The US 59/71 overlap from Acorn, AR to Texarkana is called 71 or
Highway 71 almost 100% of the time. Nobody calls it US 59.

The US 169/64 overlap in Tulsa is almost exclusively referred to as "169".
More info at http://bugo348.blogspot.com/2010/05/us-64-tulsas-redheaded-stepchild.html

The US 59/270 overlap on the Oklahoma side is usually referred to as US 59. On the Arkansas side, however, it is usually referred to as US 270. More info at http://bugo348.blogspot.com/2010/05/us-59-270-duplex-in-arkansas-and.html

I don't know what the US 59/71 overlap in Missouri is called. I would be interested to know.

In Siloam Springs, AR 59 is referred to as "Arkansas 59", while US 59 us referred to as "Oklahoma 59".

The US 64/OK 51 overlap in Tulsa is almost exclusively called "The BA" (short for Broken Arrow Expressway). ODOT considers OK 51 to be the dominant designation and the control sections are cataloged as OK 51.
More info at http://bugo348.blogspot.com/2010/05/us-64-tulsas-redheaded-stepchild.html


Road Hog

The US 69/75 concurrency is called 69 in Oklahoma and 75 in Texas. Although the south merge is only a couple of miles south of the red River.

tdindy88

Back to Indiana, I'm pretty certain that US 150's long multiplex with both US 50 and then US 41 is barely ever mentioned along those two highways from Shoals all the way to Terre Haute. Even though it's signed it seems that the highway that goes from Terre Haute south to Vincennes is usually just refereed to as US 41. And from Vincennes to Shoals it's just US 50.

LilianaUwU

Here in Québec City, the A-40/A-73 multiplex is referred by name, which then splits it in two segments (Henri-IV or "de la Capitale", the latter being the original name before A-40 was fully converted to Félix-Leclerc).
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Quote from: SkyPesos on July 03, 2021, 12:26:06 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 02, 2021, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on July 02, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
I generally use route numbers to refer to all roads, even in a concurrency.
All route numbers in a concurrency, or just the dominant one if there is one?

Depends on the context, but usually just the one in question. So if giving directions I will refer to the road as US 1 if that is the route that should be followed. If referring to the route itself for whatever reason I will often pick a random one.
Ok good. Was really hoping no one calls a particular section of interstate highway like "four sixty-five, seventy-four, thirty-one, thirty-six, thirty-seven, fourty, sixty-seven, future sixty-nine" .

Heh...if they are signed and posted...I do this. 
"Interstate 69, US 59" ; or in San Antonio "Upper Level: Interstate 10 West/US 87 North/Interstate 35 North; Lower Level: Interstate 35 North"
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